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2014 MLB Draft - Day 1 Discussion Thread
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Post by pedroelgrande on Jun 5, 2014 11:41:16 GMT -5
I really don't see the point in drafting Blandino. With Fisher you're still betting on upside, almost like a HS pick in that sense, but Blandino has been pegged as a utility infielder even before being drafted. Why? he might profile better at 2nd Base but now is showing the power so the profile question marks may not matter much. Fisher looks like a 4th OF to me. He has question about wether he can play a passable out-field defense and the power hasn't translated. Yes the upside but at some pint he has to show it.
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Post by bigpupp on Jun 5, 2014 11:41:37 GMT -5
Laws last mock. insider.espn.go.com/mlb/draft/mock/?season=2014&version=4&source=Keith-Law-Mock-Draft26A.J. ReedSCHOOL: KentuckyHT: 6-4WT: 245POS: 1B Analysis: I don't think the Red Sox would love my top-25 projection -- as it deprives them of a lot of guys they like -- but I've heard them almost exclusively on college bats here, and the best ones available would be Reed, Alex Blandino, Matt Chapman, or maybe Mike Papi or Sam Travis. I keep hearing them with Chase Vallot at No. 33. PLAYER CARD Yuck.
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Post by adiospaydro2005 on Jun 5, 2014 11:41:43 GMT -5
I really don't see the point in drafting Blandino. With Fisher you're still betting on upside, almost like a HS pick in that sense, but Blandino has been pegged as a utility infielder even before being drafted. I agree on Blandino who sounds like a Mike Gallego-like player. However, if Fisher hasn't put it together as a college player with lots of questions about his lack of power and defensive limitations, I think it is risky projecting upside on him. He seems more like a Ryan Sweeney-type player with much less defensive skills.
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Post by soxfanatic on Jun 5, 2014 11:53:10 GMT -5
Chris Crawford changed his mock from Wilson at #33, to Vallot at #33.
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Post by bigpupp on Jun 5, 2014 11:55:00 GMT -5
Chris Crawford changed his mock from Wilson at #33, to Vallot at #33. And from Fedde to Fisher at 26
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Post by taftreign on Jun 5, 2014 11:57:59 GMT -5
Previously I said I'd prefer the upside prep bats and arms over the college bats when Casey Gillaspie was mentioned for the Red Sox at 26. While I still prefer the the upside prep bats and arms I have to say I prefer Casey Gillaspie over all the other college bats I'm hearing at 26 including Blandino, Fisher, Reed, Papi etc. Unfortunately at this point I don't think he's in the mix for them because he's likely to go earlier. I still hope they do the right thing (according to me) and grab a pair of Harrison, Chavis, Forbes, Davidson, Vallot, Ortiz, Griffin, Adams, Flaherty, Kopech and so forth. I'm all for taking on the risk. If the club wants a more advanced hitting prospect then maybe its time to package a few minor league arms together for a young hitter if they can find a willing partner.
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Post by adiospaydro2005 on Jun 5, 2014 11:59:26 GMT -5
Chris Crawford changed his mock from Wilson at #33, to Vallot at #33. And from Fedde to Fisher at 26 I would rather they pick Reed over Fisher if they were determined to take a college hitter. Reed has produced and he can field his position, whereas Fisher has not produced and there are lots of questions about his ability to catch and throw at any OF position.
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Post by elguapo on Jun 5, 2014 12:04:33 GMT -5
College first basemen in the first round? Consider my mind pre-blown.
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Post by amfox1 on Jun 5, 2014 12:21:16 GMT -5
Previously I said I'd prefer the upside prep bats and arms over the college bats when Casey Gillaspie was mentioned for the Red Sox at 26. While I still prefer the the upside prep bats and arms I have to say I prefer Casey Gillaspie over all the other college bats I'm hearing at 26 including Blandino, Fisher, Reed, Papi etc. Of the "tier 2" college bats, I like (in order) Gillaspie, Papi, Sparks, Fisher, Reed and Blandino. I'd be more inclined to go pitcher at #26, HS (bat/pitcher) at #33 in round 1 and then see if I could pop a "tier 3" college bat like Sam Travis or one of the Davis boys (Dylan or JD) at the end of the 2nd round. I just don't see a lot of value from the college bats early in the draft.
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Post by taftreign on Jun 5, 2014 12:25:40 GMT -5
Previously I said I'd prefer the upside prep bats and arms over the college bats when Casey Gillaspie was mentioned for the Red Sox at 26. While I still prefer the the upside prep bats and arms I have to say I prefer Casey Gillaspie over all the other college bats I'm hearing at 26 including Blandino, Fisher, Reed, Papi etc. Of the "tier 2" college bats, I like (in order) Gillaspie, Papi, Sparks, Fisher, Reed and Blandino. I'd be more inclined to go pitcher at #26, HS (bat/pitcher) at #33 in round 1 and then see if I could pop a "tier 3" college bat like Sam Travis or one of the Davis boys (Dylan or JD) at the end of the 2nd round. I just don't see a lot of value from the college bats early in the draft. 100% agree.
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danr
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Post by danr on Jun 5, 2014 12:29:30 GMT -5
The Sox need hitters, especially power hitters. I would pick the best hitters for both first round slots. I definitely would not pick pitchers with medical problems.
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Post by grandsalami on Jun 5, 2014 12:34:50 GMT -5
A little ot, but will the sox draft fenway parks in this draft?
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jimoh
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Post by jimoh on Jun 5, 2014 12:40:20 GMT -5
The Sox need hitters, especially power hitters. ... This could be less objectionable if rephrased. You can't draft for need, but if power-hitters are now harder to find throught draft, trade, or free agency their value goes up.
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Post by amfox1 on Jun 5, 2014 12:45:40 GMT -5
I still hope they do the right thing (according to me) and grab a pair of Harrison, Chavis, Forbes, Davidson, Vallot, Ortiz, Griffin, Adams, Flaherty, Kopech and so forth. I think it's a mistake to lump all the HSers together. For instance, I would be disappointed with Flaherty (lower ceiling guy for me) and Ortiz (maxed out physically). On the other hand, I would be thrilled with Adams, Griffin or Kopech. On the hitting side, I love Harrison (assuming the late rumors are just a ploy to knock him down to TEX/ATL), although he is a boom-or-bust pick. I am warming to Vallot (and Jakson Reetz) at #33. I like Davidson if they think he can play RF in addition to 1B. I'm not sold on Forbes (going to outgrow SS, bat may not work at 3B or CF) or Chavis (classic tweener).
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Post by jimoh on Jun 5, 2014 12:50:29 GMT -5
KLaw chatting now espn.go.com/sportsnation/chat/_/id/50718Fisher unlikely to last til Braves at 32 A.J. Reed has just average bat speed Thinks Medeiros and Freeland have high risk of winding up as relievers "I don't understand the love for Wall" "I don't think an NL team should take Schwarber" who might be DH
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Post by mgoetze on Jun 5, 2014 13:08:36 GMT -5
I hope we draft someone like Brandon Moss. *sigh* He just misplayed a McCann line drive, probably could have held him to a single but let the ball get by him for 2 bases.
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Post by jimed14 on Jun 5, 2014 13:10:00 GMT -5
I hope we draft someone like Brandon Moss. *sigh* He just misplayed a McCann line drive, probably could have held him to a single but let the ball get by him for 2 bases. Saw that. He'd be a nice platoon with Gomes. lol
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dd
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Post by dd on Jun 5, 2014 13:11:16 GMT -5
It was fun following things much more closely last year because of the high pick but it's comforting to go back to my usual routine of not paying much attention until draft night and letting you guys tell me whether to hate the picks or love them. Yah, but wait till next year!
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Post by redsox040713 on Jun 5, 2014 13:26:01 GMT -5
Long time reader figured I'd join. Any word if any on any former unsigned draftees being re drafted in the next three days?
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Post by mjammz on Jun 5, 2014 13:30:06 GMT -5
Basically there is no consensus. BA, Callis, Mayo, Law are all over the map with different types or players, and different combos. I put very little stock in the MLB mocks now-a-days. Much different than 10 years ago when all the picks would leak to Callis, etc
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Post by jimed14 on Jun 5, 2014 13:45:32 GMT -5
Basically there is no consensus. BA, Callis, Mayo, Law are all over the map with different types or players, and different combos. I put very little stock in the MLB mocks now-a-days. Much different than 10 years ago when all the picks would leak to Callis, etc 10 years ago, we didn't have to worry about signability so all they had to do was report interest in players. With the cap, everything is different.
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Post by Guidas on Jun 5, 2014 13:46:35 GMT -5
Another from the Keith Law Chattage:
Tom (Long Island) so who is your kris bryant sleeper this year?
Klaw (2:05 PM) Supak, Montes de Oca, Austin Slater. Jacob Nix might be a first-rounder in three years. These aren't really "deep" sleepers, though - I haven't seen enough guys for that. They're all going to be ranked pretty highly on teams' boards.
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Post by lennsakata on Jun 5, 2014 13:56:23 GMT -5
I still hope they do the right thing (according to me) and grab a pair of Harrison, Chavis, Forbes, Davidson, Vallot, Ortiz, Griffin, Adams, Flaherty, Kopech and so forth. I think it's a mistake to lump all the HSers together. For instance, I would be disappointed with Flaherty (lower ceiling guy for me) and Ortiz (maxed out physically). On the other hand, I would be thrilled with Adams, Griffin or Kopech. On the hitting side, I love Harrison (assuming the late rumors are just a ploy to knock him down to TEX/ATL), although he is a boom-or-bust pick. I am warming to Vallot (and Jakson Reetz) at #33. I like Davidson if they think he can play RF in addition to 1B. I'm not sold on Forbes (going to outgrow SS, bat may not work at 3B or CF) or Chavis (classic tweener). Would it really matter if Ortiz is maxed out though? Hasn't he been at 93-97 when healthy? I remember people saying there wasn't much projection left for Jose Fernandez in his draft year and being confused then since reports had him sitting 93-94.
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Post by danr on Jun 5, 2014 13:59:54 GMT -5
The Sox need hitters, especially power hitters. ... This could be less objectionable if rephrased. You can't draft for need, but if power-hitters are now harder to find throught draft, trade, or free agency their value goes up. Yes, I thought about expanding it a bit after posting it. The point I should have made is that the Sox apparently will not sign expensive big name free agents, even Cuban sluggers, and teams that have them seldom trade them in their primes, so, how are they going to get any? Either through the draft or signing teenage international free agents like Devers and Bogaerts. And it won't be long before the international market is subject to drafting. The power numbers in the Sox minors are woeful among players considered real prospects.
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Post by tjb21 on Jun 5, 2014 14:04:44 GMT -5
This is the least amount of knowledge I've had going into the draft since I started visiting this site.
Can't wait to read the hate on the first 3 picks though. I'm easily amused.
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