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Post by iakovos11 on Aug 23, 2014 9:39:09 GMT -5
That seems odd. One year early?
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Post by adiospaydro2005 on Aug 23, 2014 9:53:42 GMT -5
How does that opt out impact the AAV of Castillos contract for luxury tax purposes?
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Post by redsox4242 on Aug 23, 2014 10:23:47 GMT -5
If Castillo turns out to be just as good as Puig and Abreu have been, their is no chance he leaves. Management would lock him up and make sure Castillo finishes his career here.
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Post by RedSoxStats on Aug 23, 2014 10:34:12 GMT -5
How does that opt out impact the AAV of Castillos contract for luxury tax purposes? Guessing... The cash value on the 2020 season could be very low... maybe he makes 70 million in 2015-2019, 14 million per season, but the Red Sox tacked on a year at the beginning and end that lower the lux tax AAV down to 10.3. They did something similar with Beltre's 1 year deal that was actually 1 and a very low player option for year 2, but player options are calculated into tax considerations.
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Post by RedSoxStats on Aug 23, 2014 10:35:57 GMT -5
If Castillo turns out to be just as good as Puig and Abreu have been, their is no chance he leaves. Management would lock him up and make sure Castillo finishes his career here. Or more likely, they will be pumped having a great player for under market value for his age 28-32 seasons, then let someone pay crazily for his past prime years.
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Post by amfox1 on Aug 23, 2014 10:52:01 GMT -5
Jon Heyman ?@jonheymancbs 5m Rusney Castillo physical completed. 100K 2014 salary plus $5.4M signing bonus, payable in '14
Jon Heyman ?@jonheymancbs 1m Salaries for rusney of 10.5M, 10.5M and 10.5M in '15-'17, 11M and 11M in '18 and '19, $13.5M in '20. #redsox
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Post by jimoh on Aug 23, 2014 10:57:52 GMT -5
Someone else said that he would be eligible for arbitration in his sixth full year, i.e. 2020.
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Post by sammo420 on Aug 23, 2014 11:15:14 GMT -5
Castillo has plus-plus speed, according to multiple teams that worked him out privately, able to navigate 60 yards in less than 6.5 seconds, according to one evaluator. "He's a flyer," the evaluator said. There's some debate about the potency of Rusney Castillo's bat, but his speed is indubitably a plus.
He has plus-plus power, in the view of the Red Sox. "He's a free swinger who's not going to walk a lot, a pull hitter who will hit them so far over the Monster it will be crazy," said the evaluator. "And he has the power to reach the bullpens in right field."
That sentiment is not shared by every club that scouted him.
"We think he can hit 15 to 20 home runs, which these days may be plus power," said a talent evaluator for another club that had keen interest in him, "but we don't see him having 30-homer power. Hey, we could be wrong."
forum.soxprospects.com/thread/2101/rusney-castillo-source-sign-2020?page=19 espn.go.com/boston/columns/mlb/story/_/id/11396178/how-rusney-castillo-joined-boston-red-soxPosted the wrong link
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Post by ericmvan on Aug 23, 2014 12:21:40 GMT -5
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Aug 23, 2014 12:37:07 GMT -5
Scott Lauber ?@scottlauber 9m Also, as @ken_Rosenthal reported, Castillo can opt out after '19, at which point he'll be 31, to pursue free agency. So, $59M is guaranteed
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Aug 23, 2014 12:44:08 GMT -5
Ken Rosenthal ?@ken_Rosenthal 20s
Source confirms #SFGiants, #Phillies other finalists for Castillo, as @jonheymancbs said. SF bid believed $60M+. No one in system like him.
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Post by mredsox89 on Aug 23, 2014 13:11:09 GMT -5
Not likely that he will be a superstar, but since they aren't paying him like one, hopefully the expectations fall somewhat in line with that.
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Post by sammo420 on Aug 23, 2014 13:13:24 GMT -5
Ken Rosenthal ?@ken_Rosenthal 20s Source confirms #SFGiants, #Phillies other finalists for Castillo, as @jonheymancbs said. SF bid believed $60M+. No one in system like him. That explains a lot, it must be somebody from Amaros crew who thought he had plus plus power. I don't think the most optimistic among us actually believed that.
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Post by sibbysisti on Aug 23, 2014 13:17:02 GMT -5
Jon Heyman ?@jonheymancbs 5m Rusney Castillo physical completed. 100K 2014 salary plus $5.4M signing bonus, payable in '14 Jon Heyman ?@jonheymancbs 1m Salaries for rusney of 10.5M, 10.5M and 10.5M in '15-'17, 11M and 11M in '18 and '19, $13.5M in '20. #redsox Should be followed by an announcement and plans for his assignment.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Aug 23, 2014 13:29:27 GMT -5
Jon Heyman ?@jonheymancbs 5m Rusney Castillo physical completed. 100K 2014 salary plus $5.4M signing bonus, payable in '14 Jon Heyman ?@jonheymancbs 1m Salaries for rusney of 10.5M, 10.5M and 10.5M in '15-'17, 11M and 11M in '18 and '19, $13.5M in '20. #redsox Should be followed by an announcement and plans for his assignment. Gordon Edes ?@gordonedes 1m Castillo to report to extended spring training in Fort Myers
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Post by redsox1534 on Aug 23, 2014 14:42:18 GMT -5
I like the Brett Gardner comparisons that makes me happy. Seems like he can hit 15 20 hrs and seems like we have a good idea of who he is and can be as a player on the field, comparison I think could fit him is Marquis Grissom. Hate he doesnt have great plate discipline and sounds like he isnt gonna walk much.
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Post by nomar on Aug 23, 2014 14:47:53 GMT -5
Hope he's more 6-7% BB aggressive than Adam Jones.
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Post by sibbysisti on Aug 23, 2014 16:41:00 GMT -5
Post game pressed. BC said Rusnay will return to FL (Miami) for a few days to get his change of status adjusted from visitor to employment (H1) status. Then it's off to Fort Myers to get into playing shape before returning to Boston.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Aug 23, 2014 17:12:46 GMT -5
Post game pressed. BC said Rusnay will return to FL (Miami) for a few days to get his change of status adjusted from visitor to employment (H1) status. Then it's off to Fort Myers to get into playing shape before returning to Boston. They also left little doubt, he's a center fielder.
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Post by Don Caballero on Aug 23, 2014 22:53:46 GMT -5
Dave Cameron says "some scouts" see him as a 4th OF while giving him a lot of backhanded compliments. I wonder if he also thinks we should have traded Owens and Barnes for him.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Aug 23, 2014 23:45:40 GMT -5
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Aug 24, 2014 11:36:45 GMT -5
Dave Cameron says "some scouts" see him as a 4th OF while giving him a lot of backhanded compliments. I wonder if he also thinks we should have traded Owens and Barnes for him. If by "Dave Cameron says" you mean "Dave Cameron cites to Ben Badler saying", then you'd be correct. And both Badler and Cameron acknowledge the "4th outfielder" label was based on his playing in Cuba and that it was adjusted after his recent workouts. The article was also apparently written while it was reportedly a six-year deal, not a seven-year deal, so he's about 1.5M high on the AAV. He also doesn't seem to be particularly familiar with Castillo, or at least to have even read Badler's scouting report closely, at one point saying "If he’s somewhere between Davis and Victorino (career ISO of .154, wRC+ of 106), and he can actually play center field, then he should project as something close to a +3 WAR player, depending on how good of a defender he is and whether he can add any value on the bases." Given that Castillo's best tool is his speed, I question any evaluation that seems to wonder if he's even got above-average speed. Finally, I don't see the "backhanded compliments." His conclusion is "This might not work, but it seems like a good bet for a team with the Red Sox financial resources." and he mostly seems to be positive. So yeah, i guess I completely disagree with your characterization of the article, and also don't see its usefulness.
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Post by Don Caballero on Aug 24, 2014 13:41:42 GMT -5
And both Badler and Cameron acknowledge the "4th outfielder" label was based on his playing in Cuba and that it was adjusted after his recent workouts. Where? Finally, I don't see the "backhanded compliments." His conclusion is "This might not work, but it seems like a good bet for a team with the Red Sox financial resources." and he mostly seems to be positive. I took it as him covering himself up. He writes it as a gamble, which it is, but never takes any sort of position on it. If the move works, hey he said it would. If it doesn't, he said it was a gamble all along. I'm a journalist and that's bad way of covering your base. So even when he's talking nice things about the signing, he follows it up with something much less enthusiastic. It's a free country though, you might appreciate a non informative article without actual opinion and based on second hand speculation. So yeah, i guess I completely disagree with your characterization of the article, and also don't see its usefulness. That's a little rash isn't it? I don't see the usefulness of the article, but I got nothing against your opinion. Shouldn't it be like that? Are you secretly Dave Cameron?
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Post by godot on Aug 24, 2014 14:03:28 GMT -5
From what people with some knowledge are saying it seems he has speed, can be a good defender, but although he appears to have some hit tools, who really knows how well he do against major league pitching. We may need to have some patience with this one as he adjusts to major league pitching, especially after the long lay off. He is worth the gamble.
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Post by chavopepe2 on Aug 24, 2014 15:35:12 GMT -5
The hit tool is what is going to make or break this. If he can make enough contact to hit .250, its a solid signing. If he hits .280 there should be a good amount of surplus value. If he's a .230-.240 hitter I suspect we'd be better off going with either Bradley or Mookie.
And I'm not saying batting average is a good way to evaluate a player. I just think there is enough certainty in his speed and power - and enough doubt about his approach - to leave his ability to make contact the deciding factor.
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