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8/11 ML Gameday Thread: Hernandez, Callahan & Wilkerson
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Post by zil on Aug 11, 2014 22:02:50 GMT -5
Betts has been striking out a bit more in AAA. Is that at all concerning?
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Post by nomar on Aug 11, 2014 22:10:44 GMT -5
I really hope you aren't comparing Trey Ball to Sam Travis... An extremely high ceiling HS talent vs a low ceiling college bat. My point wasn't about the player. Should I write slower? I know, you're more impressed by Witte. You didn't have a point. Writing off Ball is/was ridiculous. A cold weather HS pitcher adapting slowly isn't anything out of the norm, and he has great upside. Me not having much faith in a 1B with little to no physical projection left, hitting for barely any power, isn't comparable. I don't get why you're so offended that I'm not a fan of Travis. You can say I told you so when he's producing enough for a 1B in the upper minors, which I doubt happens. Please explain to me why that bothers you so much.
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Post by azblue on Aug 11, 2014 22:18:52 GMT -5
My point wasn't about the player. Should I write slower? I know, you're more impressed by Witte. You didn't have a point. Writing off Ball is/was ridiculous. A cold weather HS pitcher adapting slowly isn't anything out of the norm, and he has great upside. Me not having much faith in a 1B with little to no physical projection left, hitting for barely any power, isn't comparable. I don't get why you're so offended that I'm not a fan of Travis. You can say I told you so when he's producing enough for a 1B in the upper minors, which I doubt happens. Please explain to me why that bothers you so much. I'm not Amfox, but likely because you are not a professional talent evaluator and it is doubtful that you have seen Travis play, even once.
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Post by nomar on Aug 11, 2014 22:20:40 GMT -5
You didn't have a point. Writing off Ball is/was ridiculous. A cold weather HS pitcher adapting slowly isn't anything out of the norm, and he has great upside. Me not having much faith in a 1B with little to no physical projection left, hitting for barely any power, isn't comparable. I don't get why you're so offended that I'm not a fan of Travis. You can say I told you so when he's producing enough for a 1B in the upper minors, which I doubt happens. Please explain to me why that bothers you so much. I'm not Amfox, but likely because you are not a professional talent evaluator and it is doubtful that you have seen Travis play, even once. Neither is he and I never guaranteed anything or tried to antagonize anything when people didn't share the same opinion as mine.
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Post by widewordofsport on Aug 11, 2014 22:29:59 GMT -5
Betts has been striking out a bit more in AAA. Is that at all concerning? Up to 15% of PA from 8%, but slash line still good, and given his age I wouldnt be worried. Unless maybe they give him the JBJ treatment, makes the team out of ST etc... Im dying to see if data back up the idea that 'rushing' hurts guys. But either way, IIRC we saw a bump in K rate with JBJ going to AA and Xander going to AAA. He'll be fine!
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Post by ramireja on Aug 11, 2014 22:48:29 GMT -5
My point wasn't about the player. Should I write slower? I know, you're more impressed by Witte. You didn't have a point. Writing off Ball is/was ridiculous. A cold weather HS pitcher adapting slowly isn't anything out of the norm, and he has great upside. Me not having much faith in a 1B with little to no physical projection left, hitting for barely any power, isn't comparable. I don't get why you're so offended that I'm not a fan of Travis. You can say I told you so when he's producing enough for a 1B in the upper minors, which I doubt happens. Please explain to me why that bothers you so much. I think the only point he was trying to make (and a very valid one) is that you were willing to write off the guys power and approach literally weeks into his professional career. Thats all.
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Post by James Dunne on Aug 11, 2014 22:51:46 GMT -5
These new MILB player profile pages are the worst. I endorse this message.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Aug 11, 2014 23:03:19 GMT -5
These new MILB player profile pages are the worst. I endorse this message. I have no idea how to activate the last 10 radio icon.
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Post by nomar on Aug 11, 2014 23:11:26 GMT -5
You didn't have a point. Writing off Ball is/was ridiculous. A cold weather HS pitcher adapting slowly isn't anything out of the norm, and he has great upside. Me not having much faith in a 1B with little to no physical projection left, hitting for barely any power, isn't comparable. I don't get why you're so offended that I'm not a fan of Travis. You can say I told you so when he's producing enough for a 1B in the upper minors, which I doubt happens. Please explain to me why that bothers you so much. I think the only point he was trying to make (and a very valid one) is that you were willing to write off the guys power and approach literally weeks into his professional career. Thats all. If you go back to what I originally said I said that he'd need power, not that there's no way he'd ever be able to. I didn't expect much from him when they drafted him, I'm plenty happy with what he's done so far, but in my opinion if he doesn't hit for more power he's going to plateau. I understand that you can't give up on a guy early, but it's not like I lost a ton of faith in him. I just haven't gained any like a lot of others seem to have. So I disagree that I'm wrong for not putting much stock into Travis, but If Amfox sees what I'm saying that way then I know where he's coming from. But in regards to the other comment Chavo made, one HR is meaningless in the grand scheme of things. What's his ISO now, .135?
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Post by cdj on Aug 11, 2014 23:20:32 GMT -5
Yeah, you are just being incredibly irrational when it comes to Sam Travis.
Really no ifs, ands, or buts about it
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Post by larrycook on Aug 11, 2014 23:46:46 GMT -5
I am extremely impressed at how ball has fought through a difficult early season adjustment period to where he is now.
I am not saying he is a finished product by any means, but he has really come a long way since April.
Congrats to him for fighting through it.
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Post by ericmvan on Aug 12, 2014 1:06:30 GMT -5
These new MILB player profile pages are the worst. I endorse this message. Well, the person who decided what data to make available is awesome. The design of the page is mostly terrible. -- The Last 10, Upcoming, and Quick Splits radio buttons do nothing, yet. -- The full bio that used to be at the bottom is now a mouse click that opens up a popup window. I think that's easier than scrolling to the bottom. -- The "stats summary" shows this year and career total, but it defaults to combining levels and requiring a mouse click to separate them, which every single user will do every single time they access the page. A design decision made by someone who doesn't know anything about minor league ball, and apparently never reviewed by anyone, either. -- The career stats have the same problem, only worse in that the combined seasons lack a level label. So now you have to click on multiple expand icons to get a sense of the career. What would be good: a button to add and hide the season totals. -- You can view just milb or just MLB season lines, which is cool. -- They have postseason stats (total for each year), which is awesome. -- They have fielding stats, which are great. -- They have game logs (including post-season, which b-ref lacks), which is very good, and they have cumulative slash lines (or ERA, etc.), which is even better. But they need a design where either they repeat the column heads every month, or the column heads stay fixed while the log scrolls (b-ref has the same flaw for the minors). -- They have splits for every team ever played for, rather than just the current team, which is awesome, and postseason splits, which are almost silly. -- The splits are just listed one after the other, with no formatting to group the ones that actually belong together. Lame. -- Some splits have been added, but not necessarily the most useful ones. -- They have batter vs. pitcher data, but, rather insanely, just year-by-year and not lifetime. -- Every time you activate a feature, it's a new URL, so your back-button road to the box score may be long. The player links on box scores have to default to opening a new tab / window now (in the meantime, we can to remember to ctrl-click). Grade A- for data improvements, design C- (like having two most recent video links at the bottom, and a click brings you to the archive) but including a couple of bugfuck-crazy-making flaws.
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Post by jimed14 on Aug 12, 2014 7:39:50 GMT -5
Isn't Travis using wooden bats for the first time?
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Post by aboynamedkimandrew on Aug 12, 2014 7:55:35 GMT -5
Isn't Travis using wooden bats for the first time? He played for USA Baseball's collegiate all-star team. I believe they use wooden bats.
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Post by soxfanatic on Aug 12, 2014 7:57:22 GMT -5
Isn't Travis using wooden bats for the first time? He played for USA Baseball's collegiate all-star team. I believe they use wooden bats. He also played on the Cape, which is a wooden bat league.
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Post by widewordofsport on Aug 12, 2014 11:05:45 GMT -5
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