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Post by soxfanatic on Nov 12, 2015 18:23:14 GMT -5
Ken Rosenthal @ken_Rosenthal 11 sec. Sources: Free-agent outfielder Colby Rasmus will accept qualifying offer and return to the Astros for one year, $15.8 million. Story coming. He's the first FA to that right? He is. I see Ian Kennedy and Marco Estrada accepting as well, or at least structuring a new deal for more years, less AAV.
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Post by soxfanatic on Nov 12, 2015 18:35:36 GMT -5
Jesse Sanchez @jessesanchezmlb 13 sec. Source: Andrelton Simmons has been traded to the Angels. #Braves
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Post by pedroelgrande on Nov 12, 2015 18:42:07 GMT -5
I guess it's gonna be Newcomb plus.
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Post by mredsox89 on Nov 12, 2015 18:43:24 GMT -5
I guess it's gonna be Newcomb plus. It almost has to be. There is just nothing else in the system Edit: Newcomb is legit. Ellis, despite being their #2 prospect right now, doesn't look like too much and probably wouldn't come close to the top 10 here
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Post by pedroelgrande on Nov 12, 2015 18:44:31 GMT -5
@joelsherman1: #Braves trade Simmons to #Angels for Newcomb, Ellis, Aybar and about $3M
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Post by soxfanatic on Nov 12, 2015 18:50:53 GMT -5
When I look at the Angels farm system as it is.
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Post by mjammz on Nov 12, 2015 18:51:00 GMT -5
Angels farm system is now by far the worst in the majors. Newcomb is legit, but Ellis wouldn't crack out top 10 to be honest.
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Post by xanderdu on Nov 12, 2015 18:53:24 GMT -5
Ken Rosenthal @ken_Rosenthal 11 sec. Sources: Free-agent outfielder Colby Rasmus will accept qualifying offer and return to the Astros for one year, $15.8 million. Story coming. He's the first FA to that right? If the report is true, then yes, Colby Rasmus will be the first FA to accept a QA
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Post by pedroelgrande on Nov 12, 2015 18:55:16 GMT -5
Wait a year and we might be saying the same about the Red Sox. Boogeyman Dombroski is gonna trade EVERYONE.
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Post by notguilty on Nov 12, 2015 19:03:11 GMT -5
Wait a year and we might be saying the same about the Red Sox. Boogeyman Dombroski is gonna trade EVERYONE. Lol. Excellent.
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Post by jimoh on Nov 12, 2015 19:08:05 GMT -5
espn ANGELS ACQUIRE ANDRELTON SIMMONS The two-time Gold Glove shortstop will head west from the Braves, according to ESPN and multiple reports. The Angels are sending Sean Newcomb, who Keith Law had as the No. 25 prospect in his July rankings, and Erick Aybar to Atlanta in the trade.
no GG for XB ever
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Post by jmei on Nov 12, 2015 19:17:07 GMT -5
Angels are really going for it, but they kind of have to. They can't keep missing the playoffs while Trout is supernova and Pujols is still productive, and their farm system was bad before this trade.
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Post by jmei on Nov 12, 2015 19:19:00 GMT -5
If the Braves are full rebuild (which may or may not be the case, but seems more likely now than it did a few hours ago), I wonder if they'd listen on Freeman.
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Post by soxfanatic on Nov 12, 2015 19:20:28 GMT -5
If the Braves are full rebuild (which may or may not be the case, but seems more likely now than it did a few hours ago), I wonder if they'd listen on Freeman. A reporter, don't know which one now, tweeted that Freeman is the only player that is off limits. That could be posturing of course, but still.
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Post by chavopepe2 on Nov 12, 2015 19:38:36 GMT -5
If the Braves are full rebuild (which may or may not be the case, but seems more likely now than it did a few hours ago), I wonder if they'd listen on Freeman. It seems strange that the would actively look to move Simmons and not consider trading Freeman.
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Post by soxfan06 on Nov 12, 2015 19:44:40 GMT -5
I don't even want to think of the possibility of Freddie Freeman playing 1B for the Red Sox.
Cause it will make me go into a severe depression when I return to reality and realize Hanley Ramirez (barf) is our first baseman.
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Post by jmei on Nov 12, 2015 19:49:18 GMT -5
If the Braves are full rebuild (which may or may not be the case, but seems more likely now than it did a few hours ago), I wonder if they'd listen on Freeman. It seems strange that the would actively look to move Simmons and not consider trading Freeman. Agreed. The Angels' offer, while a reasonably fair one, is not the kind of Godfather-type offer that would force me to the table if I wasn't already thinking about moving him. If that's the case, they have to be willing to listen on Freeman as well.
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Post by kingofthetrill on Nov 12, 2015 21:14:10 GMT -5
I wonder if the contracts of Maybin/Swisher/Bourn are a potential gateway to a player like Freeman. It looks like their SP's aren't too expensive yet. I'd dump Hanley for straight money to take on one of the Braves OFs, and include one of our own good OF prospects (and probably a little more) to get Freeman.
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Post by fenwaythehardway on Nov 12, 2015 21:23:36 GMT -5
Wait a year and we might be saying the same about the Red Sox. Boogeyman Dombroski is gonna trade EVERYONE. Honestly it would be kind of cool to see what kind of major league roster he could assemble if he did that.
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Post by fenwaythehardway on Nov 12, 2015 21:27:47 GMT -5
Angels are really going for it, but they kind of have to. They can't keep missing the playoffs while Trout is supernova and Pujols is still productive, and their farm system was bad before this trade. I have to wonder if this is the right move though. Was upgrading on Aybar really the thing they needed to blow their one big trade chip on?
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Post by thursty on Nov 12, 2015 21:37:25 GMT -5
This wasn't a win-now move by the Angels; Simmons is under contract at 5/50; Eppler probably calculated that his otherworldly glove is worth more than the difference between Newcomb and his replacement (probably a second-tier FA signing). He might be right
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Post by jimed14 on Nov 13, 2015 14:23:29 GMT -5
Weiters accepted the QO. I bet that messes with the O's plans.
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Post by mobaz on Nov 13, 2015 14:46:08 GMT -5
Weiters accepted the QO. I bet that messes with the O's plans. What happened to the $120M the Yankees were going to give him, or whatever Buck Showalter proposed a few years ago before the injury?
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Post by fenwaythehardway on Nov 13, 2015 14:49:50 GMT -5
Weiters accepted the QO. I bet that messes with the O's plans. What happened to the $120M the Yankees were going to give him, or whatever Buck Showalter proposed a few years ago before the injury? Same thing that happened to that PECOTA projection.
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Post by steveofbradenton on Nov 13, 2015 15:21:33 GMT -5
With Matt Weiters accepting his QO, it is somewhat shocking that others don't. Here is the link www.mlbtraderumors.com/2015/11/matt-wieters-accepts-qualifying-offer.html. To me it made perfect sense for him to do that. Sure he could have gotten something like 4 years for 40 - 48 million, but this way he has a real Matt Weiters' year and cashes in on a much weaker free agent year. I'm sure the O's are shocked, but if he has a good year they could actually be in the race for AL East crown. He is betting on himself having a much better year and showing he can get back to catching 130 games.
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