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5/31 ML Gameday Thread: Gunkel, McAvoy & Drehoff
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Post by Jonathan Singer on May 30, 2015 21:40:22 GMT -5
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Post by Chris Hatfield on May 31, 2015 10:04:13 GMT -5
Masterson is starting in Pawtucket today, not Todd
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Post by soxfan06 on May 31, 2015 12:34:19 GMT -5
Why is Masterson starting at all? He should be relieving?
Can't wait to see him giving up 6 runs a game in the majors soon.....
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Post by mgoetze on May 31, 2015 12:35:26 GMT -5
Why is Masterson starting at all? He should be relieving? Big Jess Todd fan, huh? |
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Post by benogliviesbrother on May 31, 2015 12:41:03 GMT -5
Why is Masterson starting at all? He should be relieving? Big Jess Todd fan, huh? Heh. |
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Post by johnsilver52 on May 31, 2015 13:02:54 GMT -5
As of June 1? Have the Greenie Sox to enjoy watching this year.
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Post by danr on May 31, 2015 13:04:13 GMT -5
Masterson gave up a run in the first inning on no hits and three walks.
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Post by steveofbradenton on May 31, 2015 13:07:45 GMT -5
Masterson with a poor start: 1 hit, 3 bb, 1 k, and 1 earned run in the 1st inning.
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Post by iakovos11 on May 31, 2015 13:10:13 GMT -5
Actually, the 3rd walk was in the 2nd. He had 2 walks, a steal, and passed ball in the 1st for the run.
in the 2nd (so far) - walk, single, wild pitch, K, wild pitch.
Masterson is still struggling. Something just isn't right with him. I'd be curious about velo, too.
EDIT: Now a double scores the 3rd run for Luoisville, with 1 out in the 2nd.
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Post by nomar on May 31, 2015 13:23:49 GMT -5
He's cooked
Hoping Moncada keeps it going.
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Post by ianrs on May 31, 2015 13:42:18 GMT -5
Actually, the 3rd walk was in the 2nd. He had 2 walks, a steal, and passed ball in the 1st for the run. in the 2nd (so far) - walk, single, wild pitch, K, wild pitch. Masterson is still struggling. Something just isn't right with him. I'd be curious about velo, too. EDIT: Now a double scores the 3rd run for Luoisville, with 1 out in the 2nd. Wow. No way he will be back in the rotation after that. Wonder if something medical is going on. Hate to see this happen to such a good guy. |
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Post by amfox1 on May 31, 2015 13:43:59 GMT -5
Brian MacPherson ?@brianmacp 9m9 minutes ago
Word from those with their own radar guns is that Justin Masterson was around 87-88 for most of his outing.
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Post by amfox1 on May 31, 2015 14:08:06 GMT -5
Devers with his 3rd home run this season, as the Drive take a 4-0 lead. No Moncada today.
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Post by grandsalami on May 31, 2015 14:14:53 GMT -5
“@brianmacp: Justin Masterson: ”Physically, I felt good, but mechanically, not so much — rushing, drifting, everything was going out.“”
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Post by amfox1 on May 31, 2015 14:27:23 GMT -5
Shaw with his 5th home run. PawSox still trail 5-1.
Shaw is tied with Brentz and Chavis for the organizational home run lead (minors only).
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Post by supersquid on May 31, 2015 14:35:41 GMT -5
Devers with his 3rd home run this season, as the Drive take a 4-0 lead. No Moncada today. Nick Longhi with a 3 run dinger to match 9-0 Drive. |
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Post by benjaminbuttons on May 31, 2015 15:59:19 GMT -5
Guerra and Dubon both add HR's, 15 total runs on the day for Greenville.
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Post by amfox1 on May 31, 2015 16:04:47 GMT -5
7th game (of 50) with the Drive scoring 10+ runs. Drive lead the SAL in scoring, although they are only 3rd in home runs.
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Post by redsox4242 on May 31, 2015 16:28:15 GMT -5
Devers will be in Salem soon enough
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Post by Smittyw on May 31, 2015 18:31:28 GMT -5
At least we have the Drive.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on May 31, 2015 23:46:10 GMT -5
The Drive average 14.5 runs per game when Devers homers. #meaninglessmath
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Post by ericmvan on Jun 1, 2015 2:23:27 GMT -5
For all the deserved raves Devers has gotten, Guerra is just a year older, has been exactly as good at the plate (19 points more of SA versus 11 points less of OBP), and of course has hugely more defensive value. I was a skeptic coming in, but going from an .022 BB rate stateside through April (.024 last year, .016 this April) to .121 in May has made a believer out of me. The odds against that happening at random given his overall stateside BB rate are 7,251 to 1.
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Post by jchang on Jun 1, 2015 15:14:59 GMT -5
I have been stuck in Kansas City all year, and have not been to one of our minor league games in all that time. I suppose Guerra's high BB rate in DSL is just the wild pitching. Perhaps his low BB rate in GCL is just that pitchers weren't afraid to throw strikes to a skinny SS, but now he is a respected hitter?
It would be really interesting to know what specifically the staff has told to work on for developmental purposes.
Given that Guerra showed MLB-level defensive, with plus bat speed,
perhaps someone could tell him that batting for average + OBP is enough,
he does not need to flash power. I would speculate that if he was not trying to hit for XBH so much (.210 IsoP), his BA would be higher, and the SO lower?
I am inclined to believe that little guys trying to hit for power leads to injuries (Coyle?)
In any case, a 19 year old is going to want to test himself, so we may as well just watch.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jun 1, 2015 15:19:02 GMT -5
I have been stuck in Kansas City all year, and have not been to one of our minor league games in all that time. I suppose Guerra's high BB rate in DSL is just the wild pitching. Perhaps his low BB rate in GCL is just that pitchers weren't afraid to throw strikes to a skinny SS, but now he is a respected hitter? It would be really interesting to know what specifically the staff has told to work on for developmental purposes. Given that Guerra showed MLB-level defensive, with plus bat speed, perhaps someone could tell him that batting for average + OBP is enough, he does not need to flash power. I would speculate that if he was not trying to hit for XBH so much (.210 IsoP), his BA would be higher, and the SO lower? I am inclined to believe that little guys trying to hit for power leads to injuries (Coyle?) In any case, a 19 year old is going to want to test himself, so we may as well just watch. A few comments that admittedly don't hit everything you mentioned, but just a few: 1) Yes, ignore walk numbers in the DSL. The pitching is generally terrible. 2) Guerra is not small. He's 5-11. Coyle, by comparison, is listed at 5-8 and might be shorter. I also don't think his injuries have had to do with swinging hard. He just gets hurt a lot. 3) I think assuming that Guerra is just selling out for power is mistaken. Certainly didn't look that way to me. He's a teenager in full-season ball - sometimes they strike out a lot. I think it's just development. I didn't get the sense any time I've seen him that he was swinging out of his shoes or anything (think Keury De La Cruz, who falls over when swinging relatively often). |
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Post by jchang on Jun 1, 2015 15:58:09 GMT -5
thanks, appreciate the eyes-on assessment, did he look 165lb, or was that when he was 17?
I do hope he understands a grade 5/WAR 2 SS that people don't get too excited about still goes for $10M/yr on the free agent market.
Not to get off topic, but people don't seem to get excited about a pitching prospect projected to be 4/5 starter. That's also 10M/yr in FA. If a position player looks like he could be the 4/5th best bat on the team, we'd be excited, but not so for the 4/5th best pitcher?
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