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6/3 ML Gameday Thread: PawSox at Noon
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Post by Jonathan Singer on Jun 3, 2015 7:01:35 GMT -5
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Post by brianthetaoist on Jun 3, 2015 11:49:08 GMT -5
Remember when the Pawtucket Red Sox were the Most Talented Minor League Team of All Time at the beginning of the season? Good times.
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Post by benogliviesbrother on Jun 3, 2015 12:26:48 GMT -5
Remember when the Pawtucket Red Sox were the Most Talented Minor League Team of All Time at the beginning of the season? Good times. I don't remember that. I do remember the rotation of the 3 lefties plus Barnes and Wright being highly thought of. With three of them already pitching in meaningful roles for the Sox, and another waiting on deck, I'd say deservedly so. |
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Post by jmei on Jun 3, 2015 12:37:31 GMT -5
Remember when the Pawtucket Red Sox were the Most Talented Minor League Team of All Time at the beginning of the season? Good times. To be fair, their top four prospects (Castillo, Swihart, Rodriguez, Barnes) have all been called up to the majors. But yes, that projected depth dried up quickly due to injury (Coyle, Weeks) and underperformance (Cecchini, Shaw, Marrero, Brentz, Owens), not unlike the major league team. Fire Kevin Boles.
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Post by brianthetaoist on Jun 3, 2015 14:23:40 GMT -5
Remember when the Pawtucket Red Sox were the Most Talented Minor League Team of All Time at the beginning of the season? Good times. To be fair, their top four prospects (Castillo, Swihart, Rodriguez, Barnes) have all been called up to the majors. But yes, that projected depth dried up quickly due to injury (Coyle, Weeks) and underperformance (Cecchini, Shaw, Marrero, Brentz, Owens), not unlike the major league team. Fire Kevin Boles.
Yeah, for sure ... it's the nature of a AAA team, really, unless the MLB team is very good and lucky (and the Sox have been neither). It's not really a criticism, just an observation. The depth has come in useful a lot earlier than we all probably expected, that's all. Although, fwiw, I don't think less of Owens now than I did at the start of the season ... really, Cecchini's the only guy who has changed his status significantly in my mind. He's just cratered. |
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jun 3, 2015 15:58:43 GMT -5
Remember when the Pawtucket Red Sox were the Most Talented Minor League Team of All Time at the beginning of the season? Good times. I don't remember that. I do remember the rotation of the 3 lefties plus Barnes and Wright being highly thought of. With three of them already pitching in meaningful roles for the Sox, and another waiting on deck, I'd say deservedly so. FYI, they were ranked as the most talented team in the minors by either BA or MLB.com and the second-most talented by the other. |
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Post by James Dunne on Jun 3, 2015 16:07:18 GMT -5
To be fair, their top four prospects (Castillo, Swihart, Rodriguez, Barnes) have all been called up to the majors. But yes, that projected depth dried up quickly due to injury (Coyle, Weeks) and underperformance (Cecchini, Shaw, Marrero, Brentz, Owens), not unlike the major league team. Fire Kevin Boles.
Yeah, for sure ... it's the nature of a AAA team, really, unless the MLB team is very good and lucky (and the Sox have been neither). It's not really a criticism, just an observation. The depth has come in useful a lot earlier than we all probably expected, that's all. Although, fwiw, I don't think less of Owens now than I did at the start of the season ... really, Cecchini's the only guy who has changed his status significantly in my mind. He's just cratered. Agreed. Though Coyle has also dropped off significantly to me, probably even more than Cecchini. Coyle's problems have always been strikeouts and staying on the field, and he's made no progress with either. With Cecchini, his play is so far off of what's expected that I can't help but think something is wrong and that it is either injury-related or correctable. |
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Post by jimed14 on Jun 3, 2015 16:15:32 GMT -5
Cecchini is like JBJ bad without an elite glove at a premium position. I was curious if pitchers were going to attack him more if his power didn't at least become respectable after he was promoted to AA in 2013, but I never thought it would be this. I thought he'd have at least the floor of a Nava type, but it doesn't look like that's true now.
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Post by benogliviesbrother on Jun 3, 2015 18:59:54 GMT -5
Remember when the Pawtucket Red Sox were the Most Talented Minor League Team of All Time at the beginning of the season? Good times. I don't remember that. I do remember the rotation of the 3 lefties plus Barnes and Wright being highly thought of. With three of them already pitching in meaningful roles for the Sox, and another waiting on deck, I'd say deservedly so. FYI, they were ranked as the most talented team in the minors by either BA or MLB.com and the second-most talented by the other. I still don't remember that |
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Post by brianthetaoist on Jun 3, 2015 19:50:31 GMT -5
Remember when the Pawtucket Red Sox were the Most Talented Minor League Team of All Time at the beginning of the season? Good times. FYI, they were ranked as the most talented team in the minors by either BA or MLB.com and the second-most talented by the other. I still don't remember that |
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Post by benogliviesbrother on Jun 3, 2015 20:28:26 GMT -5
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Post by vermontsox1 on Jun 3, 2015 20:45:33 GMT -5
DSL RS1 avenge their horrible loss yesterday, winning 4-3.
Eduard Bazardo: 4IP, 2H, 0ER, 1BB, 5K
Hildemaro Requena: 4.2IP, 3H, 2ER, 5K
Dawill Aponte: 2-6, 2B, RBI, CS
Eduard Conde: 2-5, BB, K
Jesus Perez: 1-6, HR, 2RBI, 2K
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Post by brianthetaoist on Jun 3, 2015 20:50:54 GMT -5
Ha ... ok. Then let me be more explicit: it was hyperbole, a deliberate overstatement not meant to be taken literally but, instead, meant by its excessive grandiosity to highlight the rather quotidian reality of a AAA team that is around .500 and no more than moderately stocked with prospects. |
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Post by vermontsox1 on Jun 3, 2015 20:54:16 GMT -5
DSL RS1 avenge their horrible loss yesterday, winning 4-3. Eduard Bazardo: 4IP, 2H, 0ER, 1BB, 5K Hildemaro Requena: 4.2IP, 3H, 2ER, 5K Dawill Aponte: 2-6, 2B, RBI, CS Eduard Conde: 2-5, BB, K Jesus Perez: 1-6, HR, 2RBI, 2K And the RS2 got pounded 12-3. Carlos Caceres: 4IP, 2H, 0ER, 1BB, 1K Lorenzo Cedrola: 1-4, 2B, R, BB, K Stanley Espinal: 1-4, 2B, RBI, 2K, E Juan Hernandez: 2-4, 2B, R, RBI, K |
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jun 3, 2015 21:06:06 GMT -5
DSL RS1 avenge their horrible loss yesterday, winning 4-3. Eduard Bazardo: 4IP, 2H, 0ER, 1BB, 5K Hildemaro Requena: 4.2IP, 3H, 2ER, 5K Dawill Aponte: 2-6, 2B, RBI, CS Eduard Conde: 2-5, BB, K Jesus Perez: 1-6, HR, 2RBI, 2K And the RS2 got pounded 12-3. Carlos Caceres: 4IP, 2H, 0ER, 1BB, 1K Lorenzo Cedrola: 1-4, 2B, R, BB, K Stanley Espinal: 1-4, 2B, RBI, 2K, E Juan Hernandez: 2-4, 2B, R, RBI, K One DSL team went 14 innings. But it was the one that went 9 innings that had to use a position player on the mound. Go figure. |
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Post by nomar on Jun 3, 2015 21:36:07 GMT -5
Anybody know any high ceiling DSL bats to look out for in particular?
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Post by vermontsox1 on Jun 3, 2015 21:44:30 GMT -5
Anybody know any high ceiling DSL bats to look out for in particular? Ben Badler did a summary of our 2014-2015 J2 signings a couple months back....I posted some tidbits from it here: forum.soxprospects.com/post/134055/threadElwin Tejeda obviously got the highest bonus of the hitters so he is someone to keep an eye on, but I also am intrigued by Marino Campana. |
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Post by amfox1 on Jun 3, 2015 21:45:03 GMT -5
Chris Cotillo @chriscotillo 19m19 minutes ago
Source: Dana Eveland opts out of minor-league deal with #RedSox and becomes free agent. Had 1.54 ERA in 16 appearances with AAA Pawtucket.
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Post by mgoetze on Jun 3, 2015 21:53:12 GMT -5
Chris Cotillo @chriscotillo 19m19 minutes ago Source: Dana Eveland opts out of minor-league deal with #RedSox and becomes free agent. Had 1.54 ERA in 16 appearances with AAA Pawtucket. So "maintaining organizational depth" just died as a valid reason for keeping Craig Breslow on the roster... |
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