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Post by okin15 on Jun 9, 2015 11:17:30 GMT -5
“@keithlaw: ICYMI my first-round analysis went up last night for Insiders: t.co/h1J4XT9YOA” Summary? Nothing regarding the Red Sox. Keith said "there are picks I liked more than others, with my big board my means for comparison." Given that Benintendi was at #21 on the big board, it's unlikely that he's going to love this pick, although it might be in his middle ground.
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Post by danr on Jun 9, 2015 11:26:15 GMT -5
The Matuella situation is interesting. While some pitchers come back in a year or so after TJ surgery, everyone is different and some take much longer. Sometimes it may be a mistake to come back too early (Dylan Bundy). The safe bet is that Mutuella will not be throwing like he did before TJ until 2017, assuming he makes it all the way back.
So then what really is his leverage?
If he does pitch some next spring almost certainly he won't be all the way back, and it still won't be known if he will make it all the way back.
If he plays the next two years then he will be out of options and two years older. He will be old for that draft class.
I don't see a scenario in which he commands anywhere near the kind of money he would have gotten before TJ, and each year his leverage goes down.
If he is realistic, and self-confident, he will sign with someone this year for the most he can get. That probably will be the most he ever can get. But if he makes it all the way back whatever bonus money he lost will be made up many times over.
Based on my readings of the reports on the other available players, I think he is the top player left and I hope the Sox go after him.
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Post by danr on Jun 9, 2015 11:27:45 GMT -5
Nothing regarding the Red Sox. Keith said "there are picks I liked more than others, with my big board my means for comparison." Given that Benintendi was at #21 on the big board, it's unlikely that he's going to love this pick, although it might be in his middle ground. Before the draft he predicted that Benintendi might go high, even higher than 7th, that he had more helium than any other player.
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Post by okin15 on Jun 9, 2015 11:33:12 GMT -5
Keith said "there are picks I liked more than others, with my big board my means for comparison." Given that Benintendi was at #21 on the big board, it's unlikely that he's going to love this pick, although it might be in his middle ground. Before the draft he predicted that Benintendi might go high, even higher than 7th, that he had more helium than any other player. All I can tell you so far is the quote above, and that Benintendi is not listed under his "Picks I Love" section. I also think it's pretty obvious that Kieth can predict something and still not agree with it. I'm not in love with this pick either. Doesn't seem like much to dream on, and could be a bit of a tweener. That said, in Ben we trust (what choice do we have) and I'm sure I'll be proven wrong.
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Post by jimed14 on Jun 9, 2015 11:34:37 GMT -5
Was looking to see if this is on tv and noticed that 86 ALCS game 5 vs the Angels is on ESPN Classic. edit: and I had not noticed that Time Warner put ESPN Classic on some stupid sports tier that I'd rarely ever watch.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jun 9, 2015 11:47:18 GMT -5
Was looking to see if this is on tv and noticed that 86 ALCS game 5 vs the Angels is on ESPN Classic. edit: and I had not noticed that Time Warner put ESPN Classic on some stupid sports tier that I'd rarely ever watch. Not on TV, btw.
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Post by amfox1 on Jun 9, 2015 11:47:30 GMT -5
My draft board (Red Sox pick 6th):
1. Matuella 2. Nix 3. Everett 4. Chalmers 5. Smith 6. Trahan
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Post by mjammz on Jun 9, 2015 11:52:57 GMT -5
I'd like Nix, Chalmers, or Matuella, but Demi Oromoloye really intrigues me as well. Also keep an eye on Team USA players, the Sox always take one, along with a JC player.
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Post by jhenrywaugh, prop. on Jun 9, 2015 11:53:29 GMT -5
Thought this was supposed to start up again at 12:30.
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Post by danr on Jun 9, 2015 11:53:43 GMT -5
Before the draft he predicted that Benintendi might go high, even higher than 7th, that he had more helium than any other player. All I can tell you so far is the quote above, and that Benintendi is not listed under his "Picks I Love" section. I also think it's pretty obvious that Kieth can predict something and still not agree with it. I'm not in love with this pick either. Doesn't seem like much to dream on, and could be a bit of a tweener. That said, in Ben we trust (what choice do we have) and I'm sure I'll be proven wrong. I know what he wrote. I read him regularly. I suspect that his rating of Benintendi in part was due to his sudden rise. He doesn't have as long a record of outstanding performance as some of the others he outperformed this year. I really like this pick. Based on what I have read, I think this kid has a real chance to be very special. He made himself into a much better player. I like that kind of drive and prefer it to kids who have so much talent they don't try hard.
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Post by danr on Jun 9, 2015 11:56:00 GMT -5
I'd like Nix, Chalmers, or Matuella, but Demi Oromoloye really intrigues me as well. Also keep an eye on Team USA players, the Sox always take one, along with a JC player. Oromoloyee reminds me of some of the big muscular guys the Sox took chances on in the last several years, guys with a lot of power, poor pitch recognition, holes in their swings, etc, none of whom are still in the system. There just seem to be too many things here that need to be fixed.
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Post by pedroelgrande on Jun 9, 2015 11:56:10 GMT -5
Thought this was supposed to start up again at 12:30. It was the preview show. the actual draft starts at 1.
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Post by kman22 on Jun 9, 2015 11:56:10 GMT -5
Thought this was supposed to start up again at 12:30. 1pm
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Post by mjammz on Jun 9, 2015 11:57:19 GMT -5
Last year we saw the Red Sox target a power bat or two early. I think we'll see that at some point today as well.
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Post by soxfanatic on Jun 9, 2015 11:58:34 GMT -5
Last year we saw the Red Sox target a power bat or two early. I think we'll see that at some point today as well. Not that he's that good, but I see Sikes Orvis from Ole Miss. as a realistic senior sign. Re-draft too.
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Post by mjammz on Jun 9, 2015 11:58:55 GMT -5
Regardless of what happens today the Red Sox have added:
The best hitting prospect in the 2014-2015 class and one of the best in awhile (Moncada) The best International Arm in the 2014-2015 crop (Espinoza) The National College Player of the Year (Benintendi)
Can't be too mad with that haul.
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Post by soxfanatic on Jun 9, 2015 12:03:37 GMT -5
Chris Cotillo @chriscotillo 32 sec. RHP Ian Kahaloa definitely an option for #RedSox at no. 81.
Not sure what this means
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Post by ianrs on Jun 9, 2015 12:03:53 GMT -5
I really want nothing to do with Matuella, but really curious to see the direction we go on day 2. Can't be disappointed after the Benintendi pick.
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Post by amfox1 on Jun 9, 2015 12:06:20 GMT -5
Chris Cotillo @chriscotillo 32 sec. RHP Ian Kahaloa definitely an option for #RedSox at no. 81. Not sure what this means BA #113 4th youngest pitcher in the BA 500.
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Post by mjammz on Jun 9, 2015 12:06:23 GMT -5
Here we go. Day 2 Starting.
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Post by soxfanatic on Jun 9, 2015 12:09:42 GMT -5
Matuella to TEX
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Post by mjammz on Jun 9, 2015 12:09:50 GMT -5
Matuella goes to the Rangers
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Post by amfox1 on Jun 9, 2015 12:09:50 GMT -5
Matuella to TEX.
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Post by kman22 on Jun 9, 2015 12:09:51 GMT -5
There goes Matuella.
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Post by telson13 on Jun 9, 2015 12:09:48 GMT -5
Reactions on facebook and twitter on the Benintendi pick are hilarious and horrifying at the same time. A selection: stupid stupid stupid we done need anymore outfielders we need pitching Pathetic!!! Pitching dumbasses!!!! Should have drafted a pitcher or an infielder. DID WE REALLY NEED ANOTHER OUTFIELD PROSPECT? ? Why do we always draft these little guys? That's all ya got? .... So stupid, so hilarious, yet somehow so disturbing... "The horror...the horror!!"
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