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Post by raftsox on Jun 24, 2015 21:25:02 GMT -5
Buchholz on his way to another great fWAR season and another poor bWAR season. Career ERA and FIP are almost exactly the same (ERA a little lower) so I wouldn't read into that too much. This is the second consecutive year that it hasn't been though.
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Post by James Dunne on Jun 24, 2015 21:27:34 GMT -5
Clay Buchholz improves his FIP to 2.72. Good for 8th in the Majors. Buchholz on his way to another great fWAR season and another poor bWAR season. Buchholz has a higher career bWAR than fWAR. Until last season he'd outperformed his peripherals pretty consistently.
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Post by blizzards39 on Jun 24, 2015 21:42:38 GMT -5
If we can get Victorino and hanigan back and somehow replace Kelly in the rotation and Porcello and Napoli get there head out of there ass, does this team have a run in them???
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Post by jmei on Jun 24, 2015 21:45:10 GMT -5
Career ERA and FIP are almost exactly the same (ERA a little lower) so I wouldn't read into that too much. This is the second consecutive year that it hasn't been though. It's also the second year in a row he's pitched in front of a bad defense. Also, sometimes a coin comes up tails twice in a row.
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Post by huskies15 on Jun 24, 2015 21:50:59 GMT -5
I was at the game tonight, and the collective "WTF" when Hanley got hit while running was almost comical. At the time I was waiting for Sandoval to invent a new way of getting out just because it seemed like the logical next thing to have happen.
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Jun 24, 2015 21:59:34 GMT -5
If we can get Victorino and hanigan back and somehow replace Kelly in the rotation and Porcello and Napoli get there head out of there ass, does this team have a run in them??? I don't think so. Not only is that a lot of ifs, but its not like the 2004 team that had two aces or the 2007 team that was an offensive juggernaut. This was a team that was at best predicted to be in the high 80s in wins. This team doesn't really have a no. 2 starter and now injuries are starting to roll in. If anything I think we'll be shopping some of our relievers since they tend to be overvalued at the deadline. I was thinking maybe they'd think about shopping Holt or Buchholz too but I just doubt they'd receive the overwhelming return to justify those moves. I also think they'll just cut some spare parts loose like Napoli or Breslow that are just taking up a roster space on a team going nowhere. I have no idea why De Aza is still here. If anyone can explain that to me I'd appreciate it.
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Post by Oregon Norm on Jun 24, 2015 22:20:30 GMT -5
I was at the game tonight, and the collective "WTF" when Hanley got hit while running was almost comical. At the time I was waiting for Sandoval to invent a new way of getting out just because it seemed like the logical next thing to have happen. How about posters get with the times? This has been mentioned more than once, but it's worth repeating. There are a lot of miscues and lapses we can nail Sandoval for, but his offense isn't in that list, at least not since the start of June. This month his line is .356/.367/.542, and while we might quibble about the OBP, this is who he is. He makes a lot of contact, including on pitches that most batters would stay away from. Right now, he's an asset. Let's hope the glove lets him stay that way.
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Post by bookiemetts on Jun 24, 2015 23:57:27 GMT -5
I know this has been said before, but Clay's hair may be the most disgusting thing ever shown on live tv. Nice outing though for him tonight. Lived with a lot of hits. Hopefully the injuries aren't too serious.
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Post by bluechip on Jun 25, 2015 6:02:11 GMT -5
De Aza: diving head first is soooo stupid. It's not faster and that's how you get hurt. Edit: I feel like it should not have to be explained to professional baseball players. And yet they still do it. I believe he saw Davis behind the bag and instinctively dove. The guy made it to the majors diving to first. Some guys learn that way, especially faster guys. I really have no problem with someone like De Aza doing that after seeing crush Davis standing and walking towards you 4 feet behind the bag... I realize some guys dive headfirst, but it's slower and its an incorrect technique. The Twins used to fine Punto every time he dove because he did it so often.
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Post by Guidas on Jun 25, 2015 7:20:33 GMT -5
If Pedroia goes to the DL gotta bring up JBJ and move Holt to 2nd, right? Ditto for Hanley, I would think, too.
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Post by okin15 on Jun 25, 2015 7:26:44 GMT -5
I think it'll be Swihart to the DL first, unless one of the scans shows something torn or broken.
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Post by station13 on Jun 25, 2015 8:03:57 GMT -5
Swihart was cleared last night to play, but it was Clay and leon is his catcher.
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Post by soxfan1615 on Jun 25, 2015 8:39:51 GMT -5
Career ERA and FIP are almost exactly the same (ERA a little lower) so I wouldn't read into that too much. This is the second consecutive year that it hasn't been though. So? There's probably tons of pitchers who have had better fWAR than rWAR 2 years in a row
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Post by vermontsox1 on Jun 25, 2015 8:48:10 GMT -5
JBJ on his way to Boston, according to Lou Merloni...
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Post by atzar on Jun 25, 2015 8:52:12 GMT -5
Hopefully he gets a legitimate chance this time. He's done all he can do at the AAA level this year.
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Post by DesignatedForAssignment on Jun 25, 2015 8:54:10 GMT -5
JBJ on his way to Boston, according to Lou Merloni... if nobody going to DL, countermove would just be: Shaw optioned to AAA
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Post by mgoetze on Jun 25, 2015 9:00:02 GMT -5
JBJ on his way to Boston, according to Lou Merloni... if nobody going to DL, countermove would just be: Shaw optioned to AAA If Swihart is healthy they better do something with one of the 3 catchers, given how banged up some of the players are we need more than 2 position players on the bench.
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Post by GyIantosca on Jun 25, 2015 9:03:32 GMT -5
Not for nothing but Ross Jr and Breslow take up space. Farrell forgets about them and once in a while he throws them in for work. Why keep these guys up here. None gonna claim Breslow anyway. Ross can go down.
I am trying to keep calm but even the respected reporters and columnists are wondering about these moves and why don't don't give certain people a chance and why are others left alone. I mean it is not just us anymore. They keep complaining about Kelly more than we do. I can give five moves they can make and it does not involve trades.
Hamels got blasted last night. Our Lowell team and Gcl team might be on to something. I don't want to jinx them. But Lowell always struggles and it's nice to see them storm out of the gate.
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Post by jdb on Jun 25, 2015 9:09:22 GMT -5
Let's get JBJ some ABs. Give him a month of at least 4-5 starts a week and let's see if those plate adjustments are for real.
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Post by gregblossersbelly on Jun 25, 2015 9:12:04 GMT -5
Speier tweeted that Marrero and Aro are there too.
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Post by stevedillard on Jun 25, 2015 9:13:16 GMT -5
So, Marrero, JBJ and Aro are up. Guessing Pedroia to DL (with Betts at 2b. JBJ in CF?) Catcher (leon) DFA and Marrero now the utility guy pitcher (Ross?) optoined and Aro now up. Of course, as a former SS now uncomfortable in the OF, Hanley at 2B makes sense
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Post by gregblossersbelly on Jun 25, 2015 9:13:18 GMT -5
Pedey to DL, guessing same with Swihart. Curious what pitcher goes down. Prob Ross to AAA.
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Post by gregblossersbelly on Jun 25, 2015 9:15:23 GMT -5
So, Marrero, JBJ and Aro are up. Guessing Pedroia to DL (with Betts at 2b. JBJ in CF?) Catcher (leon) DFA and Marrero now the utility guy pitcher (Ross?) optoined and Aro now up. Of course, as a former SS now uncomfortable in the OF, Hanley at 2B makes sense We won't move Mookie in the middle of the year. Holt to 2b. Shaw can take some ab's from Napoli at first. Kratz is our backup C until Hanigan comes back next week. Marrero backup middle inf. Da'za 4th of. He better start JBJ now.
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Post by GyIantosca on Jun 25, 2015 9:25:14 GMT -5
Wow did a paper weight fall on BC's head finally some moves I can live with. I want to see an adjustment to the rotation. There so slow to do that and that holds us hostage. How can they not see we can not establish a friggin winning streak with this rotation. A lot of people are noticing this. Johnson is all done at the AAA level.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jun 25, 2015 9:25:23 GMT -5
So, Marrero, JBJ and Aro are up. Guessing Pedroia to DL (with Betts at 2b. JBJ in CF?) Catcher (leon) DFA and Marrero now the utility guy pitcher (Ross?) optoined and Aro now up. Of course, as a former SS now uncomfortable in the OF, Hanley at 2B makes sense Pedroia to the DL likely puts Holt at 2B. Some combo of Bradley and De Aza in RF. Agree that a catcher gets DFA, either Leon or Kratz, and probably Ross going down.
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