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Post by art on Aug 14, 2015 18:33:42 GMT -5
Yeah, there were people on this board who really questioned the wisdom of getting Sandoval. The extreme lack of discipline and his downward trending numbers were red flags. I don't put as much stock in the defensive metrics, and I don't see that as anywhere near the problem his hitting is. He's still better at third than anyone else they could stick there. There have been a lot of plays with Holt and, lately Shaw, at third that would have been in the can for the guy. But the hitting can drive you batty. I'm still not sure why they thought they needed him. Ramirez has been, and probably will continue to be, an enigma both physically and at the plate. When he's on and healthy he can have extended stretches where he kills it. I thought he was a good pick up, and I'd wager there's a few more of those in his future. Keeping him healthy, however, seems near impossible, for whatever reason. And watching him learn the outfield requires the patience of John Cleese in this scene from A Fish Called Wanda:
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Post by art on Aug 14, 2015 18:34:08 GMT -5
IMHO, the funniest movie ever made.
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Post by benogliviesbrother on Aug 15, 2015 15:41:21 GMT -5
... I do find it funny that people long for other GMs that become available. Dombrowski? Check, he was great in Detroit, he built a "winner"... I don't think you were stumping for Dombrowski, but just in case: 14 seasons: 90+ wins: 3 times Titles: zero Not my idea of a winning program.
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Post by arzjake on Aug 15, 2015 20:48:56 GMT -5
Some trades have been suspect. Farm system has yielded some dividends and a core group of hitters developing in A ball. We can talk about Pitching development, Owens, Erod, Johnson, Kopech are a good start.. What Cherington needs to do is go back to the old days which the game has reverted to the last few years post steroid, Pitching and defense first! I think with LL out of the way, Cherington will flourish. Betts, Vazquez, Bogaerts, Swihart, maybe Bradley... don't you think you're short-selling the system a little? All these guys have less than two years of experience - those 1,000 at bats someone mentioned, yet there appears to be some outstanding talent in there. The lack of insight into guys who are all 24 years old or less often has me shaking my head. Cherington has built the farm system similar to the Expos of the nineties. Offensive talent.. Who is selling short? Cherington has the system stacked.. Hitters grow on trees pitchers do not. It's always tough to develop arms. Cherington president post it!
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Post by arzjake on Aug 15, 2015 21:01:06 GMT -5
Betts, Vazquez, Bogaerts, Swihart, maybe Bradley... don't you think you're short-selling the system a little? All these guys have less than two years of experience - those 1,000 at bats someone mentioned, yet there appears to be some outstanding talent in there. The lack of insight into guys who are all 24 years old or less often has me shaking my head. Ben cherington is not responsible for bringing in Betts, Vasquez, Bogaerts, Swihart, Bradley, Owens. Just Erod, Kopech and Johnson. Read up on Cherington's role in the organization before 2012. Then repost about the above. Head of player personnel then assistant GM. If you don't think he had a say in the above players being drafted,your nuts!
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Post by arzjake on Aug 15, 2015 21:04:42 GMT -5
Betts, Vazquez, Bogaerts, Swihart, maybe Bradley... don't you think you're short-selling the system a little? All these guys have less than two years of experience - those 1,000 at bats someone mentioned, yet there appears to be some outstanding talent in there. The lack of insight into guys who are all 24 years old or less often has me shaking my head. Cherington has built the farm system similar to the Expos of the nineties. Offensive talent.. Not selling short? Cherington has the system stacked. Can you imagine if he had signed Bregman, Boldt and Sheffield? Hitters grow on trees pitchers do not. It's always tough to develop arms. Cherington will be president of bb ops, post it!
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Post by vermontsox1 on Aug 18, 2015 20:42:49 GMT -5
Tim Britton @timbritton The Red Sox have hired Dave Dombrowski as their president of baseball operations.
Wut
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