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Pedroia
Aug 21, 2015 14:21:34 GMT -5
Post by brendan98 on Aug 21, 2015 14:21:34 GMT -5
I don’t know if this is realistic or not, but I’ll throw it out there and see what others think. If Pedroia was willing to move to 3B, would the Sox be a better team next year with Betts at 2B, Bradley in CF, and Pedroia at the hot corner?
I think we began to see some decline in Pedroia’s defense this year at 2B (he actually appeared mortal at times), anyone think he would not be able to play a solid 3B? I’m sure he’d work his tail off at it, the only question in my mind would be arm strength. On top of that, maybe he would stay healthier at 3B than 2B (less laying out for balls at 3B).
Betts would be an exciting guy at 2B, and he, Xander, Swihart and Bradley up the middle would be a young, up the middle core, that would be tough to match. JBJ has to play CF, as much as I think Mookie has been a good CF and I enjoy the great catches he makes, I have to admit that I think that some of them are only necessary because he doesn’t always get good jumps off the bat.
Obviously, making these moves would impact other players, Castillo would be the full time RF, leaving Hanley in LF (unless the Sox sign or trade for an outfielder), in which case one of Hanley or Sandoval would have to move to 1B or be traded. Holt continues to backup everywhere, and Shaw could start, backup, or go to AAA depending on what other moves are made.
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Pedroia
Aug 21, 2015 14:35:26 GMT -5
Post by threeifbaerga on Aug 21, 2015 14:35:26 GMT -5
Isn't a hamstring problem the kind of injury that would hamper a middle infielder's defense?
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Pedroia
Aug 21, 2015 14:49:38 GMT -5
Post by brendan98 on Aug 21, 2015 14:49:38 GMT -5
Isn't a hamstring problem the kind of injury that would hamper a middle infielder's defense? True, but he didn't have a hamstring injury the entire year. I am not trying to say that Pedroia isn’t still a great 2B, because he is. Really think that the injuries have already taken a toll, and looking for a way to decrease the demands on Pedey’s body going forward.
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Pedroia
Aug 21, 2015 15:20:16 GMT -5
Post by jimed14 on Aug 21, 2015 15:20:16 GMT -5
He doesn't have the arm for 3B, IMO. He could pass there once in awhile, but not all year.
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Pedroia
Aug 21, 2015 15:26:32 GMT -5
Post by burythehammer on Aug 21, 2015 15:26:32 GMT -5
I don't understand the obsession with moving Mookie back to second base. Especially with people outside of this forum who'd never heard of him before he moved to the outfield. He's a really good outfielder and still has the potential to be even better.
And then what happens in two years when Moncada is ready? We move Mookie back to the OF? I thought we learned our lesson about jerking around your franchise players with Xander last year.
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Post by jmei on Aug 21, 2015 15:46:05 GMT -5
He doesn't have the arm for 3B, IMO. He could pass there once in awhile, but not all year. He definitely doesn't have the arm for 3B (it's the main reason he was moved from SS to 2B), and even for a game or two, it doesn't make sense to play him there.
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Pedroia
Aug 21, 2015 15:59:49 GMT -5
Post by ctfisher on Aug 21, 2015 15:59:49 GMT -5
I don't understand the obsession with moving Mookie back to second base. Especially with people outside of this forum who'd never heard of him before he moved to the outfield. He's a really good outfielder and still has the potential to be even better. And then what happens in two years when Moncada is ready? We move Mookie back to the OF? I thought we learned our lesson about jerking around your franchise players with Xander last year. Well I think the idea is to get Jackie Bradley's glove into the outfield next year full time, which probably won't happen unless either Mookie or Hanley changes positions or we get rid of Hanley or Rusney. I also think Mookie moving back to 2nd wouldn't be at all similar to Xander moving to 3b; Mookie came up playing middle infield, if he were going to struggle with a position change, it would've been moving to the outfield. That being said, I don't think Pedroia at 3b makes sense, because then we have to work out what to do with Sandoval, and I'm not in favor of trading him at the absolute lowest possible trade value
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Pedroia
Aug 21, 2015 16:10:54 GMT -5
Post by jimed14 on Aug 21, 2015 16:10:54 GMT -5
He doesn't have the arm for 3B, IMO. He could pass there once in awhile, but not all year. He definitely doesn't have the arm for 3B (it's the main reason he was moved from SS to 2B), and even for a game or two, it doesn't make sense to play him there. Agreed, it's about as bad of an idea as putting WMB at 2B was last year. Desperate times only.
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Pedroia
Aug 21, 2015 16:39:04 GMT -5
Post by sarasoxer on Aug 21, 2015 16:39:04 GMT -5
I don't understand the obsession with moving Mookie back to second base. Especially with people outside of this forum who'd never heard of him before he moved to the outfield. He's a really good outfielder and still has the potential to be even better. And then what happens in two years when Moncada is ready? We move Mookie back to the OF? I thought we learned our lesson about jerking around your franchise players with Xander last year. I don't think Moncada will ever see 2B, at least for the Sox. From reports he does not appear to be 'gifted' with the glove...so far something of a Dick Stuart. If not traded, I see him moving to the OF. He does have speed to cover ground. If his bat follows projections, I would hazard the guess that corner is where he resides. Mookie at second would allow us to upgrade team power production in the outfield. As presently constituted we will have bottom scraping power once Ortiz retires....and in Fenway no less. It would be sacrilegious to trade Pedey ....a dirt dog par-excellence and a consummate team player. But if he is to go, the changing the managerial guard would be the cloak under which it could be done.
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Pedroia
Aug 21, 2015 16:46:44 GMT -5
Post by jimed14 on Aug 21, 2015 16:46:44 GMT -5
I don't understand the obsession with moving Mookie back to second base. Especially with people outside of this forum who'd never heard of him before he moved to the outfield. He's a really good outfielder and still has the potential to be even better. And then what happens in two years when Moncada is ready? We move Mookie back to the OF? I thought we learned our lesson about jerking around your franchise players with Xander last year. I don't think Moncada will ever see 2B, at least for the Sox. From reports he does not appear to be 'gifted' with the glove...so far something of a Dick Stuart. If not traded, I see him moving to the OF. He does have speed to cover ground. If his bat follows projections, I would hazard the guess that corner is where he resides. Mookie at second would allow us to upgrade team power production in the outfield. As presently constituted we will have bottom scraping power once Ortiz retires....and in Fenway no less. It would be sacrilegious to trade Pedey ....a dirt dog par-excellence and a consummate team player. But if he is to go, the changing the managerial guard would be the cloak under which it could be done. I see Moncada in RF someday.
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Pedroia
Aug 21, 2015 23:23:07 GMT -5
Post by redsox04071318champs on Aug 21, 2015 23:23:07 GMT -5
I think Moncada winds up at 3b.
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Pedroia
Aug 22, 2015 6:18:17 GMT -5
Post by okin15 on Aug 22, 2015 6:18:17 GMT -5
Well, there's two opinions. I think Moncada is a LFer eventually, but I wouldn't be surprised if he's a 2bman coming up.
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Aug 22, 2015 9:16:39 GMT -5
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Post by nomar on Aug 22, 2015 9:16:39 GMT -5
Well, there's two opinions. I think Moncada is a LFer eventually, but I wouldn't be surprised if he's a 2bman coming up. the scouting report on this site legs him as having plus arm strength and his speed grades from plus to plus plus. I think he's a better fit in RF than left. Regardless it's the bat you're more concerned with IMO.
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