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August 2015 Player of the Month
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Sept 4, 2015 8:53:48 GMT -5
Please vote above for the player you felt had the best month, and discuss your selection below in the thread! You may use almost any criteria you wish in judging each player's month. The one exception is that we ask that voters ignore a player's prospect status - in other words, please don't vote for a player based on the fact that you think he will be a better major league player down the road. However, to be clear, you may use other criteria in judging the candidates relative to one another that go beyond stats, such as age relative to level and the like. Just don't pick, say, a top 10 prospect over an org guy based solely on that. Voting for this poll will close Monday at 5 pm. 3B Roldani Baldwin (GCL): 21 G, 85 PA, 26 H, 6 2B, 0 3B, 2 HR, 10 R, 9 RBI, 6 BB, 9 K, 0 SB, 0 CS, .342/.400/.500
CF Andrew Benintendi (LOW/GRE): 26 G, 119 PA, 36 H, 2 2B, 2 3B, 6 HR, 18 R, 17 RBI, 14 BB, 7 K, 6 SB, 0 CS, .353/.424/.588
2B Yoan Moncada (GRE): 19 G, 91 PA, 25 H, 7 2B, 1 3B, 3 HR, 18 R, 12 RBI, 15 BB, 16 K, 23 SB, 2 CS, .333/.451/.573
1B Josh Ockimey (LOW): 21 G, 89 PA, 20 H, 3 2B, 2 3B, 3 HR, 13 R, 12 RBI, 12 BB, 35 K, 1 SB, 0 CS, .267/.371/.480
1B Sam Travis (POR): 27 G, 116 PA, 28 H, 6 2B, 1 3B, 3 HR, 18 R, 18 RBI, 14 BB, 16 K, 4 SB, 1 CS, .277/.362/.446August 2015 Hitting stats |
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Sept 4, 2015 8:54:23 GMT -5
Tough one this month. Interested in seeing how this goes.
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Post by jrffam05 on Sept 4, 2015 9:02:37 GMT -5
Thought Benintendi at first glance, but then you see all the steals Moncada has. Going Benintendi due larger sample size, and only having 7 strikeouts in 119 PA.
Tough luck for Ockimey, Travis, and Baldwin.
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Post by brianthetaoist on Sept 4, 2015 9:36:26 GMT -5
Thought Benintendi at first glance, but then you see all the steals Moncada has. Going Benintendi due larger sample size, and only having 7 strikeouts in 119 PA. Tough luck for Ockimey, Travis, and Baldwin. I went with Moncada because of those steals ... 23 steals with only two CS!! That's some serious offensive value. The rate stats are slightly in Moncada's favor as well, with the higher OBP, while Benintendi played more so has better counting stats, and just 7 Ks is pretty impressive. Close call, but those steals are pretty outrageous. |
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Post by chavopepe2 on Sept 4, 2015 9:47:02 GMT -5
Thought Benintendi at first glance, but then you see all the steals Moncada has. Going Benintendi due larger sample size, and only having 7 strikeouts in 119 PA. Tough luck for Ockimey, Travis, and Baldwin. I went with Moncada because of those steals ... 23 steals with only two CS!! That's some serious offensive value. The rate stats are slightly in Moncada's favor as well, with the higher OBP, while Benintendi played more so has better counting stats, and just 7 Ks is pretty impressive. Close call, but those steals are pretty outrageous. It really is insane. You could turn every single into a double and every double into a triple and still have a couple steals left over. He should take this. |
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Post by brianthetaoist on Sept 4, 2015 10:08:17 GMT -5
I went with Moncada because of those steals ... 23 steals with only two CS!! That's some serious offensive value. The rate stats are slightly in Moncada's favor as well, with the higher OBP, while Benintendi played more so has better counting stats, and just 7 Ks is pretty impressive. Close call, but those steals are pretty outrageous. It really is insane. You could turn every single into a double and every double into a triple and still have a couple steals left over. He should take this. Anyone have the wRC for these two lines? I had forgotten they took SB data out of those lines. There really isn't a catch-all offensive stat anymore? I gotta say, Moncada's dominance on the basepaths didn't really sink in until I looked at these monthly numbers. 23 steals in just 19 games. Mercy. Off-topic aside, though: I was just looking at the single-season steals records and saw Billy Hamilton on it. I thought, "what? I had no idea he was stealing so many bases this year, how did I miss that? I didn't even think he was getting on base enough to do that." I never knew one of the best base stealers of the 1880s and 1890s was named Billy Hamilton. Sliding Billy ... Sorry, second off-topic aside: I also had no idea that before 1898, if you went from first to third on a single, you were credited with a stolen base. OK, ending off-topic asides, just got fascinated by old stolen base history for a bit here. |
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Post by jrffam05 on Sept 4, 2015 10:15:11 GMT -5
Yea, the run rate (pun intended) of 23 stolen bases in 91 PA is outrageous. That's 152 steals per 600 PA.
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Post by feez732 on Sept 4, 2015 17:59:28 GMT -5
This was definitely a tough decision. Benintendi obviously has the larger sample size and lower k-rate while Moncada has the filthy sb rate.
Moncada is also a year younger at the same level/one level higher, however, and I think that age difference was probably what made the final decision for me. Even though it shouldn't affect my decision, that Moncada competed for the award last month as well also probably helped me justify it. This is just a continuation of his dominant performance at the level.
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Post by ericmvan on Sept 5, 2015 3:55:05 GMT -5
It really is insane. You could turn every single into a double and every double into a triple and still have a couple steals left over. He should take this. Anyone have the wRC for these two lines? I had forgotten they took SB data out of those lines. There really isn't a catch-all offensive stat anymore?I gotta say, Moncada's dominance on the basepaths didn't really sink in until I looked at these monthly numbers. 23 steals in just 19 games. Mercy. Off-topic aside, though: I was just looking at the single-season steals records and saw Billy Hamilton on it. I thought, "what? I had no idea he was stealing so many bases this year, how did I miss that? I didn't even think he was getting on base enough to do that." I never knew one of the best base stealers of the 1880s and 1890s was named Billy Hamilton. Sliding Billy ... Sorry, second off-topic aside: I also had no idea that before 1898, if you went from first to third on a single, you were credited with a stolen base. OK, ending off-topic asides, just got fascinated by old stolen base history for a bit here. Which should be added to the report! (There's also BP's TAv.) For Moncada to have tied Benintendi after getting 28 more PA, he would have had to average 6.4 RC/27, which is less than what Ockimey did, and what Travis did at Portland. Even after factoring in defense, that's the better month. |
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Post by m1keyboots on Sept 5, 2015 5:04:16 GMT -5
I gotta go with Benny, just seems as cool as a cucumber, and while the steals are impressive, do I really espect Moncada to steal 50 bag in the MLB? No, I would expect about 20 ish from both guys and Benintendi just seems like he's spitting on everything and when he gets a pitch to hit, he rakes. I'll give Moncada credit for picking up after a slow start and rdally turning this into a sterling first year, but BB it is
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Sept 5, 2015 10:24:06 GMT -5
Just to be clear, the one criteria that we ask posters to ignore is prospect status/major league projection.
You're evaluating how they played this month, not his they'll play in the future.
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