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Post by thelavarnwayguy on Sept 7, 2015 18:18:21 GMT -5
It would seem to maybe be Dombrowski's style to sign that premium guy as a foundational piece for a young emerging team. A GM willing to pull the trigger on expensive top talent if the value is there and who would be better for this team than Price? A proven commodity for many years now in the AL. I think it's possible as LA may well decide to bring back Greinke and the Yankees already have a $217 mil payroll with the bulk of that commitment coming back again next year. For starters they have Tanaka and Sabathia under contract and Nova, Eovaldi and Pineda all hitting arb ( costing them even more cash ) plus Severino looks like a keeper in the rotation. The Yanks may not be willing to go high for Price. My projection is 15% likely.
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Post by maxwellsdemon on Sept 7, 2015 18:35:41 GMT -5
I think that Price is taking note of where his best chance for a ring(s) lies over the life of his last contract. He has a front row seat to the Sox youth movement, probably is aware of what CV brings, has already dealt with DD and unless it is most money only (always a strong possibility) his choices boil down to HOU, CHC or BOS. My bet DD puts in a very competitive bid, 40%
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Post by mgoetze on Sept 7, 2015 19:04:13 GMT -5
Yeah, maybe. Or maybe that's just Illitch. Why should I guess, I can just wait and find out. |
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Post by jimed14 on Sept 7, 2015 19:08:46 GMT -5
I pick 25.5%
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Post by whoareyoukarimgarcia on Sept 7, 2015 19:40:09 GMT -5
I picked 40%. We know he is a pitcher that DD has targeted and obtained in the past, and has knowledge of at least his initial contract demands pre-free agency. David Ortiz is on record say something to the effect that he wants to help the FO with off season acquisitions. what better way to do that then help DD go after Price by squashing their little feud!
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Post by burythehammer on Sept 7, 2015 20:08:04 GMT -5
Please god no.
I also don't buy the whole "He's targeted him before" thing, as if it's some big secret that David Price is a great pitcher. And trading a few assets for 1.5 years of David Price's prime is not in the same stratosphere as giving him free agent mega deal through his decline years.
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Post by whoareyoukarimgarcia on Sept 7, 2015 20:31:43 GMT -5
Please god no. I also don't buy the whole "He's targeted him before" thing, as if it's some big secret that David Price is a great pitcher. And trading a few assets for 1.5 years of David Price's prime is not in the same stratosphere as giving him free agent mega deal through his decline years. So there is a 0% chance then? He has a track record of liking the player and giving out big contracts. He said he is going after a front line starter. Not everything is a smoke screen. I think he can go after Price if the contract is for bigger money but shorter years and still make a trade for a solid to very good pitcher. My point of him having targeting him before is meant more as an example of why he might go harder after Price vs. any other top FA (I.E. Cueto or greinke if he is available). |
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Sept 7, 2015 20:43:58 GMT -5
I voted 10% likely, but honestly I think it's closer to the bottom option.
The Dodgers or the Yankees are more likely to spend big bucks on Price. Perhaps even the Cubs, although I would think it would be less likely.
It's not hard to imagine the Dodgers with Kershaw, Greinke, and Price as their Big 3. They have the money to do this.
The Yanks are close to having Sabathia gone soon, and they don't have a strong lefty, something they have always had when they won, to front that rotation, and with Price to go with Severino, Pineda, and Tanaka, the Yankees would be stacked.
I doubt the Sox are willing to go the necessary seven years $210 million that is necessary to sign the player.
I know that Price will undergo his decline at some point, but I would remind some others that sometimes pitchers can buck the trend.
Curt Schilling didn't fall off the map at age 35 or even 37, nor did his pitching mate Randy Johnson.
Some guys, especially those with great K/BB ratios, are able to maintain a high level of effectiveness into their mid to late 30s and can buck the overwhelming trend of pitcher ineffectiveness that hits in the mid-30s.
The question is: Is Price one of those guys? I think he probably is, but I doubt that the Red Sox pay up to find out.
More likely the Sox are going to send a lot of minor league talent to another team for a starter, perhaps Chris Sale.
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Post by jdb on Sept 7, 2015 22:36:43 GMT -5
I think we make a run at him and not convinced it's a slam dunk the Dodgers and Cubs are the front runners. LAD may prefer Grienkie on a shorter deal while the Cubs might feel it's best to lock up Arietta and jump into the Zimmerman or Kazmire pool.
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Post by thelavarnwayguy on Sept 7, 2015 23:24:31 GMT -5
If you look at the Yanks contract commitments they have Arod, Tex, Beltran, Ellsbury, McCann, Sabathia, Tanaka all coming back on huge contracts. Even Gardner, Headley and Andrew Miller have big contracts. Some of that commitment falls off in 2016 but they may not do a big deal this year. I don't think the Yanks will be at the top of the Price bidding. They will need a lot of money to round out this team.
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Post by pesky6 on Sept 7, 2015 23:53:09 GMT -5
I went with the 30% option. I think DD has to try, not sure we go the 6-7 year 200 million route with him though. Also, not sure I'm comfortable with that approach. But we do need an ace. And Cueto's recent struggles only drive up the Price for David, pun intended.  |
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Post by wskeleton76 on Sept 8, 2015 0:27:21 GMT -5
Don't forget Shohei Otani may be posted this off season.
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Post by blizzards39 on Sept 8, 2015 0:55:36 GMT -5
I went 15%. I think that DD and the FO will break the trend and try and take a run at Price but so will a lot of teams (Dodgers Cubs bluejays Redsox and maybe Astros being the front runners. And there is no gaurantee that he will even want to sign with us. It's probably going to take 7/210 minimum. Probably will end up being a bad deal but we need an ace and for the next couple years he is a sure as bet as anybody.
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Post by gregblossersbelly on Sept 8, 2015 3:40:54 GMT -5
A few weeks ago I would have been against this. I didn't think the rest of our team was good enough to contend. JBJ, Castillo and Swihart are making me think otherwise. Have to think we get more out of Pedey and Tubby next year. Not counting
on Hanley at all. Signing Price, and trading for a closer(Pick up Buchholz option, deal him in 3 way for prospects and flip for Kimbrell or Chapman) might make this a playoff team. Need another power bullpen arm too.
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Post by burythehammer on Sept 8, 2015 5:38:43 GMT -5
Don't forget Shohei Otani may be posted this off season. I hope I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure this is not true. Doesn't have have to pitch like four more years in NPB to be eligible? For one thing I'm pretty sure we'd already have a 20 page thread about it on this board. |
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Post by wskeleton76 on Sept 8, 2015 6:41:40 GMT -5
Don't forget Shohei Otani may be posted this off season. I hope I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure this is not true. Doesn't have have to pitch like four more years in NPB to be eligible? For one thing I'm pretty sure we'd already have a 20 page thread about it on this board. With the club's agreement Otani is allowed to be posted. I heard that the contract between Nippon-Ham Fighters and Otani permits him to go to MLB whenever he wants. A Japanese paper said that Scott Boras already came to Japan to discuss Otani's posting with Nippon-Ham Fighters. No doubt Boras wants to be an agent for Otani. Otani dominates JBL and looks ready to play in MLB. He became 21 years old a few month ago. |
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