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Post by nomar on Dec 15, 2015 8:50:27 GMT -5
Soler slugged only .399 in the offseason. But I think if you add in the postseason it goes up to .425. He had a great (asterisk) September too, but then again Smoak pulled that trick in Seattle as a power hitting top prospect.
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Post by bookiemetts on Jan 18, 2016 23:07:01 GMT -5
So I didn't want to just post this in the Betts thread as it's a little bit off topic for that, but here's the video of all of JBJ's homers last year. He hit a lot off of some really good pitchers and lefties as well.
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Post by Oregon Norm on Jan 18, 2016 23:44:38 GMT -5
Thanks again. After he got his timing down, he really put a charge into some of those home runs. Hope he's got a few more of those in him for this year.
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Post by ericmvan on Jan 18, 2016 23:52:10 GMT -5
Thanks again. After he got his timing down, he really put a charge into some of those home runs. Hope he's got a few more of those in him for this year. I just posted in the Betts thread the observation that his HRs, as a set, are pretty much stylistically indistinguishable from Papi's, based on HitTracker data. I don't think that any scout would give them the same power grade, and I think it follows that he has more power than people think.
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Post by humanbeingbean on Jan 18, 2016 23:58:23 GMT -5
That Osuna one was an absolute blast.
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Post by jimed14 on Jan 19, 2016 7:25:15 GMT -5
Thanks again. After he got his timing down, he really put a charge into some of those home runs. Hope he's got a few more of those in him for this year. I just posted in the Betts thread the observation that his HRs, as a set, are pretty much stylistically indistinguishable from Papi's, based on HitTracker data. I don't think that any scout would give them the same power grade, and I think it follows that he has more power than people think. I think there could be some scouts who give JBJ a better power grade than Mookie or Xander just based on those videos, if they never saw anything else.
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Post by chrisfromnc on Jan 19, 2016 8:02:23 GMT -5
I've really enjoyed these videos. I noticed Bradley touches the brim of his helmet as he is running the bases, usually right around second base. It looks like an intentional signal he is giving to someone watching him as opposed to a reflex or him adjusting the helmet during his run around the bases. I haven't read about that and I think it'd be great if one of the staff could try to ask him about it this spring down at the Fort.
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Post by atzar on Jan 19, 2016 14:45:40 GMT -5
I've really enjoyed these videos. I noticed Bradley touches the brim of his helmet as he is running the bases, usually right around second base. It looks like an intentional signal he is giving to someone watching him as opposed to a reflex or him adjusting the helmet during his run around the bases. I haven't read about that and I think it'd be great if one of the staff could try to ask him about it this spring down at the Fort. I just looked for this myself. I only saw it on three of the homeruns, all in away games where the Red Sox dugout would be on the third base side. Looks to me like he's tipping his cap to somebody in the dugout, possibly a coach. By most accounts he's a high-character kid and that may just be his way of sharing the credit with the people who are helping him succeed.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jan 19, 2016 15:20:03 GMT -5
I've really enjoyed these videos. I noticed Bradley touches the brim of his helmet as he is running the bases, usually right around second base. It looks like an intentional signal he is giving to someone watching him as opposed to a reflex or him adjusting the helmet during his run around the bases. I haven't read about that and I think it'd be great if one of the staff could try to ask him about it this spring down at the Fort. Like the idea and would have asked. However, MLB access is limited to outlets that have a presence with the club all year. Tried getting a pass previously for the MLB game and was denied. It's an MLB policy, I think.
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Post by ryantoworkman on Jan 19, 2016 16:27:58 GMT -5
I've really enjoyed these videos. I noticed Bradley touches the brim of his helmet as he is running the bases, usually right around second base. It looks like an intentional signal he is giving to someone watching him as opposed to a reflex or him adjusting the helmet during his run around the bases. I haven't read about that and I think it'd be great if one of the staff could try to ask him about it this spring down at the Fort. Like the idea and would have asked. However, MLB access is limited to outlets that have a presence with the club all year. Tried getting a pass previously for the MLB game and was denied. It's an MLB policy, I think. Go to WEEI and listen to Bradford interview with Jared Carabis (sp). He dropped a name of someone in the FO who assisted him greatly as,a blogger. He stated he could never get press credentials, but he did gain some level of access, and a ticket package, because they were aware of his blog and it's popularity. Worth a shot!
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jan 19, 2016 17:04:10 GMT -5
Like the idea and would have asked. However, MLB access is limited to outlets that have a presence with the club all year. Tried getting a pass previously for the MLB game and was denied. It's an MLB policy, I think. Go to WEEI and listen to Bradford interview with Jared Carabis (sp). He dropped a name of someone in the FO who assisted him greatly as,a blogger. He stated he could never get press credentials, but he did gain some level of access, and a ticket package, because they were aware of his blog and it's popularity. Worth a shot! We have the access we need to cover anything that's within our purview with the rare exception of an MLB game. Thanks though.
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Post by pedroiaesque on Jan 19, 2016 21:13:22 GMT -5
So I didn't want to just post this in the Betts thread as it's a little bit off topic for that, but here's the video of all of JBJ's homers last year. He hit a lot off of some really good pitchers and lefties as well. Two quick impressions I get from this video, both very encouraging: 1. Bradley Jr. was not missing mistake pitches. I realize these are just the ones he really didn't miss, but the point still stands. It has been noted here on several occasions that what often distinguishes the minors from the majors is that MLB hitters do not miss mistake pitches. 2. He seemed to be going with the pitches away with much more authority. The first home run is interesting in that he hooked it into RF, but the clips after that showed a hitter going middle or opposite field and driving pitches on the outside portion of the plate.
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Post by gerry on Jan 20, 2016 4:25:22 GMT -5
So I didn't want to just post this in the Betts thread as it's a little bit off topic for that, but here's the video of all of JBJ's homers last year. He hit a lot off of some really good pitchers and lefties as well. Two quick impressions I get from this video, both very encouraging: 1. Bradley Jr. was not missing mistake pitches. I realize these are just the ones he really didn't miss, but the point still stands. It has been noted here on several occasions that what often distinguishes the minors from the majors is that MLB hitters do not miss mistake pitches. 2. He seemed to be going with the pitches away with much more authority. The first home run is interesting in that he hooked it into RF, but the clips after that showed a hitter going middle or opposite field and driving pitches on the outside portion of the plate. Yes, he went with the pitches and created a spray chart that looks like a dozen thin slices of pizza, from the foul poles to deep center. It follows that if he settles in and makes contact, he will make hard contact, and become a power threat. However, I hope he finds a middle ground between the slap hitter some think he is and the big bopper he sometimes tries to be, to his detriment. If Betts, Bradley and Bogaerts each develop a balanced approach, they will be pure gold dust for years of AllStar games. But 10HR in a couplle of months does get one thinking.
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Post by steveofbradenton on Jan 20, 2016 12:14:03 GMT -5
As what was mentioned earlier, the thing that really excited me was how he used the whole field. Those swings in which he went with the outside pitch and hit it hard and deep were a thing of beauty. We should probably start a poll in what Jackie's final stats will be for 2016.
I like Jackie Jr. for .248 BA, .325 OBP, .425 Slugging, 14 homers, 31 doubles, and a K rate of 27%
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Post by nomar on Jan 20, 2016 12:40:10 GMT -5
I'm down for that
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Post by m1keyboots on Jan 20, 2016 15:01:37 GMT -5
I'll counter with something like a 252/315/420 slash lime with 26 doubles and 14,15 homeruns, 29%k rate. (The triples were. Nice last year too) I really don't think he'll completely solve the swing and miss in his game. Also another year of chasing down bullets and gunning down the idiots who try and run on him.
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Post by humanbeingbean on Jan 20, 2016 15:23:26 GMT -5
Hell, I'll take a .220/.300 line with 10 homers if it means we get to see this for a full season:
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Post by gerry on Jan 20, 2016 17:22:48 GMT -5
Hell, I'll take a .220/.300 line with 10 homers if it means we get to see this for a full season: Agreed. 100% The good news is he has shown he can hit better than that and is likely to do so. A bit offthread here, but in addition to the outstanding gloves and speed of Rusney, JBJ and Mookie, the cannons of JBJ and Rusney combined with the arms at catcher, combined with the astute play of Pedey and Xander, no one is stretching hits. I wonder how many runs just this element of team defense will save, and what impact it will have on the offensive strategies of opponents?! And what if JBJ and Rusney finally adjust to MLB pitching this year and hit even reasonably well. That would be awesome.
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Post by wcsoxfan on Jan 20, 2016 17:26:11 GMT -5
Thanks for all the replays guys. I don't get to catch many games, so those are much appreciated.
The last one showed 95 MPH. How would that translate to pitching? (just out of curiosity)
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Post by telson13 on Jan 20, 2016 19:21:52 GMT -5
I love that after those first two pulled bombs, JBJ really hammered some pitches up the middle. He's definitely got more power than he's been given credit for...no real cheapies in that bunch. I still think that if he hits .250-.260, he's good for an OBP between .330-.350 and a SLG around .420-.450.
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Post by redsox1534 on Jan 23, 2016 14:07:45 GMT -5
This team is losing big papi after the season and has no middle of order bat to replace him on the ml roster or in minors. We need a big bat for the middle of the lineup and getting Schwarber in a deal that has jbj and some going back to chi has me saying yes. Shwarbar imo has Jeff Bagwell upside.
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Post by jimed14 on Jan 23, 2016 14:23:45 GMT -5
This team is losing big papi after the season and has no middle of order bat to replace him on the ml roster or in minors. We need a big bat for the middle of the lineup and getting Schwarber in a deal that has jbj and some going back to chi has me saying yes. Shwarbar imo has Jeff Bagwell upside. That would never happen this year because we have Papi and Schwarber should be a DH. And then we also have Hanley. And the Cubs may need a DH next year.
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Post by rjp313jr on Jan 23, 2016 19:54:38 GMT -5
I read yesterday that Betts has more out outs per game than Bradley in centerfield. Doesn't necessarily mean anything but thought it was interesting.
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Post by jimed14 on Jan 23, 2016 21:13:00 GMT -5
I read yesterday that Betts has more out outs per game than Bradley in centerfield. Doesn't necessarily mean anything but thought it was interesting. Batters are more afraid to hit the ball to CF when JBJ is out there. Seriously though, I bet that is a small sample size issue more than anything else.
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Post by telson13 on Jan 23, 2016 21:50:39 GMT -5
This team is losing big papi after the season and has no middle of order bat to replace him on the ml roster or in minors. We need a big bat for the middle of the lineup and getting Schwarber in a deal that has jbj and some going back to chi has me saying yes. Shwarbar imo has Jeff Bagwell upside. Except Bagwell was an excellent defensive 1b and Schwarber is a terrible one. He's also strikingly bad in LF. I like Schwarber as a hitter, but he's strictly a DH, and I wouldn't give up a whole lot to get him. The Sox have Devers, Moncada, and Benintendi in the minors, and Betts and Bogaerts (and Swihart) in MLB. Betts and Bogaerts have 3-hitter potential, as does Benintendi. Devers is generally considered a legitimate 3/4 hitter by most evaluators, and Moncada certainly has the upside of a 3, although he's more likely to be a 1/2 given his speed and isoD. I think they're better off developing their own players and making a trade to fill a real hole, not a presumptive one.
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