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Post by fenwaythehardway on Mar 16, 2016 8:58:32 GMT -5
Also, since when does trading a player require the physical presence of his agent?
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Post by steveofbradenton on Mar 16, 2016 9:11:54 GMT -5
Maybe they're working on an extension... Love it!
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Post by slam761 on Mar 16, 2016 12:47:08 GMT -5
One of the sports hub guys just said he knows someone in the industry who claims the White Sox are trying to trade for Hanley.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Mar 16, 2016 12:58:05 GMT -5
David Laurila davidlaurilaqaWas told that Pablo Sandoval blew up at reporter yesterday for citing declining defensive stats in article. Slammed table w/ bat during rant
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Post by ericmvan on Mar 16, 2016 13:13:17 GMT -5
Alex Speier also tweeted that Hanley's agent was also in camp. The morons in Felger and Mazz already have started this means Hanley is going to be traded soon. Does anyone see it that way Note- White Sox DH Adam Larouche retired today. The white sox were only looking at players with 3 year deals this winter which is exactly how many guaranteed years Hanley has left on his deal. First mistake: Listening to Felger & Maz 2nd mistake: Listening to Felger & Maz What's hilarious is that they've failed to figure out who would get Hanley's roster spot if he was dealt. Allen Craig.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Mar 16, 2016 13:51:10 GMT -5
First mistake: Listening to Felger & Maz 2nd mistake: Listening to Felger & Maz What's hilarious is that they've failed to figure out who would get Hanley's roster spot if he was dealt. Allen Craig. Agreed, now let's play detective. If the WS are indeed looking to get Hanley and the Sox would then use Craig, what would DD want in return. It would have to be something that offsets the difference between Hanley and Craig. I see nobody on the roster that we could trade for to accomplish that except adding in Kelly and getting back Chris Sale. I don't think it would be an offense player because otherwise the WS have accomplished nothing. Obviously, Hanley and Kelly aren't going to get you Chris Sale. The other Sox are going to want a cost controlled stud which brings us to Vazquez/Swihart. Baseball is 18 days away, it's an unknown if Vazquez can handle 5 day a week of catching from the get go, so it would almost have to be him. The WS would then need to add trade balancers. Can anyone else see any other way that the talks could go if they are indeed talking ?
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Mar 16, 2016 14:26:40 GMT -5
David Laurila davidlaurilaqaWas told that Pablo Sandoval blew up at reporter yesterday for citing declining defensive stats in article. Slammed table w/ bat during rant John Tomase @jtomase 33m33 minutes ago As for yesterday's "incident," such things happen all the time, and reporters and players typically work them out among themselves. John Tomase @jtomase 13m13 minutes ago This didn't go through. Will try again. Sandoval on incident with reporter: "That happened yesterday. It's past. Today's a new day."
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Post by KB24 on Mar 16, 2016 15:22:04 GMT -5
David Laurila davidlaurilaqa Was told that Pablo Sandoval blew up at reporter yesterday for citing declining defensive stats in article. Slammed table w/ bat during rant John Tomase @jtomase 33m33 minutes ago As for yesterday's "incident," such things happen all the time, and reporters and players typically work them out among themselves. John Tomase @jtomase 13m13 minutes ago This didn't go through. Will try again. Sandoval on incident with reporter: "That happened yesterday. It's past. Today's a new day." This guy continues to exhibit a complete inability to show accountability for his actions, or inaction for that matter. It's going to get a lot uglier very soon with this slob.
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Post by jimed14 on Mar 16, 2016 15:24:24 GMT -5
John Tomase @jtomase 33m33 minutes ago As for yesterday's "incident," such things happen all the time, and reporters and players typically work them out among themselves. John Tomase @jtomase 13m13 minutes ago This didn't go through. Will try again. Sandoval on incident with reporter: "That happened yesterday. It's past. Today's a new day." This guy continues to exhibit a complete inability to show accountability for his actions, or inaction for that matter. It's going to get a lot uglier very soon with this slob. You really don't want to let Boston media smell blood in the water.
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Post by burythehammer on Mar 16, 2016 15:44:44 GMT -5
Don't be fooled by Tomase. This is how beat writers react when someone outside the clubhouse reports something. "That's beneath us. Non-story."
I don't doubt that it happens more than we realize, and I wouldn't expect it to be reported normally, but come on. It's spring training and Sandoval's already *that* on edge that he's flipping out on a guy over a completely innocuous story? What's gonna happen when he's hitting .210 in May and he's being painted as Satan himself by every talk radio idiot/columnist in town?
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Post by burythehammer on Mar 16, 2016 15:56:49 GMT -5
You can imagine how players would act towards a beat writer if they reported it every time one of them yelled at somebody. Doesn't mean it's not something fans would like to know about.
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Post by jrffam05 on Mar 16, 2016 20:48:59 GMT -5
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Post by mredsox89 on Mar 16, 2016 22:58:49 GMT -5
Hanley looked like he was clueless from the get go in the outfield, which given how he had zero experience on fly balls, etc., made some logical sense.
At the very least, he's looked far more comfortable at 1B already. He's had years of fielding grounders, etc., obviously slightly different now, but same concept. That's one of the few things that the 2016 ST could decide. It appears that he could be an adequate 1B.
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Post by dirtywater43 on Mar 17, 2016 5:07:17 GMT -5
With each passing day, I'm more convinced that the Sox should trade Pablo for any salary they can get and take anything anyone offers. Addition by subtraction.
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Post by brendan98 on Mar 17, 2016 9:01:01 GMT -5
With each passing day, I'm more convinced that the Sox should trade Pablo for any salary they can get and take anything anyone offers. Addition by subtraction. Agreed!
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Post by jodyreidnichols on Mar 17, 2016 9:49:02 GMT -5
Hanley looked like he was clueless from the get go in the outfield, which given how he had zero experience on fly balls, etc., made some logical sense. At the very least, he's looked far more comfortable at 1B already. He's had years of fielding grounders, etc., obviously slightly different now, but same concept. That's one of the few things that the 2016 ST could decide. It appears that he could be an adequate 1B. The most important factor in many ways for a first baseman is the defensive ability to dig low throws out of the dirt. If he's adequate or even becomes adequate at that during the season everything else appears to be in place so that he's not a liability. I'd take that right now. That said Pablo and/or Buchholz becomes the biggest concerns.
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Post by nomar on Mar 17, 2016 10:13:49 GMT -5
We knew Hanley could field grounders, I'm more worried about his ability to pick short hoppers and bad throws, and keeping his foot on the bag. I'm sure there are going to be a few games where he hurts us in those capacities.
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Post by fenwaythehardway on Mar 17, 2016 13:20:56 GMT -5
With each passing day, I'm more convinced that the Sox should trade Pablo for any salary they can get and take anything anyone offers. Addition by subtraction. Relevant:
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Post by dirtywater43 on Mar 17, 2016 13:46:57 GMT -5
With each passing day, I'm more convinced that the Sox should trade Pablo for any salary they can get and take anything anyone offers. Addition by subtraction. Relevant: Send him to AAA with Allen Craig then. At least that saves the Sox with the Luxury Tax.
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Post by jimed14 on Mar 17, 2016 13:50:13 GMT -5
Send him to AAA with Allen Craig then. At least that saves the Sox with the Luxury Tax. No it wouldn't. He has enough service time to refuse.
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Post by jrffam05 on Mar 17, 2016 14:16:53 GMT -5
Or you know.... Wait till the season starts.
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Post by telson13 on Mar 17, 2016 16:03:14 GMT -5
Or you know.... Wait till the season starts. Your rationality is killing the vibe. Please stop.
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Post by dirtywater43 on Mar 17, 2016 16:41:58 GMT -5
Send him to AAA with Allen Craig then. At least that saves the Sox with the Luxury Tax. No it wouldn't. He has enough service time to refuse. I'm talking about outrighting him off the 40 man roster and clearing waivers. If he choses to become a free agent. So be it.
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Post by jimed14 on Mar 17, 2016 16:44:49 GMT -5
No it wouldn't. He has enough service time to refuse. I'm talking about outrighting him off the 40 man roster and clearing waivers. If he choses to become a free agent. So be it. He wouldn't become a free agent. He'd be paid every dime and count against the cap. He wouldn't have to report to AAA.
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Post by gerry on Mar 17, 2016 18:29:41 GMT -5
No it wouldn't. He has enough service time to refuse. I'm talking about outrighting him off the 40 man roster and clearing waivers. If he choses to become a free agent. So be it. So, you are personally offended by John Farrell and want to fire him now for batting XB 4th, and you are personally offended by Panda's weight issues and want the Sox to dump him and about $80M (that's a whole lot of subtraction) without giving an historically good 3B a chance to pull it together with the rest of the guys during ST!?!?! What should the FO do with the other potentially high upside question marks on the team: Barnes, Bradley, Buchholz, Castillo, Hembree, Johnson, Owens, Kelly, Koji, Layne, Murphy, Porcello, Shaw, Tazawa, Wright, Young, Vasquez. Do they all himhave to go? How do the Sox replace them? This is our team you are talking about. I only support the laundry if I like the players, and I like these players. I, personally, am excited to go with the flow with a team with so much potential and depth, and even question marks. I am so happy for Hanley's apparent rebound, and that of Kelly, Koji, Vasquez, am hoping for patience with Pablo, etc., and am getting tired of a steady diet of vitriolic posts. This is a kids game played, in part, for our enjoyment. Enjoy!
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