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Post by jmei on Apr 12, 2016 18:24:11 GMT -5
Why would Sandoval accept a minor league assignment when he could instead elect free agency? He has no incentive to do so. Sandoval also has more of a role than you think. He's effectively the backup at 3B, 1B and DH, which means he likely gets at least a start or two a week even when everyone's healthy. He's also valuable injury depth-- without him on the roster, if any of Shaw, Hanley or Ortiz get hurt, it's some combination of Marrero, Castillo, Allen Craig or Bryce Brentz getting the playing time, which are all worse options. He also should be used as a bat off the bench to pinch-hit for Young (and maybe Bradley/Castillo or Swihart/Hanigan), yesterday's game notwithstanding. Wait, he could elect free agency? Even better. But why would he give up $80 million that he'll never see again? They put Holt at 3B before they put Pablo there. How is he going to work through a slump while rotting on the bench? You're confused about the MLB transaction rules. For players with five or more years of service time like Sandoval, when they are designated for assignment, they can elect free agency and will receive the remainder of the money guaranteed to them. Only for players like Allen Craig with less than five years of service time is it the case that they forfeit their salary if they elect free agency upon being DFAed. Sandoval is ahead of Holt on the 3B depth chart. They have not started Holt ahead of Sandoval at 3B this season, and the only times when Holt has played 3B are in situations where Young has pinch-hit for Shaw and they want to keep open the option of whether Young or Sandoval hits the next time through the order.
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Post by jmei on Apr 12, 2016 18:30:49 GMT -5
LARGE FATHER!
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Apr 12, 2016 18:31:29 GMT -5
This team is nothing without Big Papi.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Apr 12, 2016 18:31:58 GMT -5
LOL, they can't hide Trumbo.
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Apr 12, 2016 18:32:18 GMT -5
Your putting yourself on the ledge awful early there, brother, best of luck to you.
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Post by Guidas on Apr 12, 2016 18:32:39 GMT -5
This team is nothing without Big Papi.
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Post by mgoetze on Apr 12, 2016 18:32:52 GMT -5
That was barely a home run. If it had dropped down in the field of play somewhere in the general vicinity of Trumbo, Ortiz would have had to sprint hard to get to first base. I mean, come on, you can admire the no-doubters but I'd like to see him run on the ones that could go either way.
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Post by Guidas on Apr 12, 2016 18:33:30 GMT -5
Your putting yourself on the ledge awful early there, brother, best of luck to you. I found a t-shirt from last year.
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Post by jmei on Apr 12, 2016 18:33:45 GMT -5
I disagree that Sandoval is a negative WAR player going forward, and the Red Sox front office almost certainly does as well. His offensive decline was largely BABIP-driven last year and will likely bounce back, and even if he never regains the power he showed earlier in his career, he should be around a ~100 wRC+ hitter. Even if his defense continues to be sub-par, that's a useful player and better than the next-best option in the organization or the kind of player floating around on waivers. Can you say that with a straight face? Calling his D sub-par is like calling Shaw a gold glove 3B. In his current shape I don't see him as anything but a negative war player going forward. His bat would need to be a lot better then league average for him to not be a negative war player at 3b. Without his power I also don't see how his bat plays at DH and 1B. Until he gets in shape he is useless. Even if he's as bad defensively as he was last year, with a ~100 wRC+ bat, he'd still be no worse than approximately replacement level. If his defense is even a little better than it was in 2015 (which I suspect it will be), he's an asset. His bat wouldn't play well at 1B or DH, but it wouldn't be terrible (four AL teams had a sub-100 wRC+ last year at DH, for instance), and it's probably better than the next-best option in the organization.
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Post by chrisfromnc on Apr 12, 2016 18:36:54 GMT -5
It gives me joy to watch David Ortiz play baseball.
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Post by Guidas on Apr 12, 2016 18:44:46 GMT -5
Clay struggling a bit with his control but a vile curveball to end the inning.
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Post by chrisfromnc on Apr 12, 2016 18:59:04 GMT -5
A super 3rd inning from Clay. 2Ks and changing speed nicely. Great command. Locating the fastball and off speed stuff really well.
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Post by rjp313jr on Apr 12, 2016 19:02:32 GMT -5
So Alex Speier just said Clay Buchholz has been one of the 5 best pitchers in the AL East since he's been in the majors. What a dumb statement from a smart guy.
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Post by jimed14 on Apr 12, 2016 19:06:42 GMT -5
Can you say that with a straight face? Calling his D sub-par is like calling Shaw a gold glove 3B. In his current shape I don't see him as anything but a negative war player going forward. His bat would need to be a lot better then league average for him to not be a negative war player at 3b. Without his power I also don't see how his bat plays at DH and 1B. Until he gets in shape he is useless. Even if he's as bad defensively as he was last year, with a ~100 wRC+ bat, he'd still be no worse than approximately replacement level. If his defense is even a little better than it was in 2015 (which I suspect it will be), he's an asset. His bat wouldn't play well at 1B or DH, but it wouldn't be terrible (four AL teams had a sub-100 wRC+ last year at DH, for instance), and it's probably better than the next-best option in the organization. Well amazingly, he's already in the hole after 7 plate appearances.
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Post by atzar on Apr 12, 2016 19:13:15 GMT -5
I dislike that corner. Even when it works in our favor, I dislike it. What a junk homerun.
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Post by Guidas on Apr 12, 2016 19:13:33 GMT -5
buzzard luck.
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Post by jimed14 on Apr 12, 2016 19:14:36 GMT -5
Buchholz could make that same exact pitch to JJ Hardy 5000 times and that would be the only home run he hit.
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Post by mgoetze on Apr 12, 2016 19:15:14 GMT -5
Well, now we know what Farrell was saving his challenges for. And then he managed to con the crew chief into not taking away the challenge for it.
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Post by Oregon Norm on Apr 12, 2016 19:18:59 GMT -5
Buchholz could make that same exact pitch to JJ Hardy 5000 times and that would be the only home run he hit. Ahhh, Fenway park... It is a pesky pole. Some symmetry there, since Ortiz got his up into the jet stream.
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Post by jmei on Apr 12, 2016 19:22:50 GMT -5
So Alex Speier just said Clay Buchholz has been one of the 5 best pitchers in the AL East since he's been in the majors. What a dumb statement from a smart guy. Eh, I don't think it's that far off. Since 2007, Buchholz is 18th in the AL in Fangraphs' RA9-WAR. The AL East guys ahead of him are Jon Lester, CC Sabathia, David Price, James Shields, Jeremy Guthrie and Josh Beckett (there is also Buehrle, Halladay, and Lackey, but those guys accrued most of their value during that period in another division). ADD: If you only look at 2008-present, Buchholz jumps up to fifth (leapfrogging Guthrie and Beckett).
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Post by jimed14 on Apr 12, 2016 19:24:01 GMT -5
Another absurd strike zone tonight. Mookie's 3rd strike was 6 inches outside and I've seen 3-4 others like that.
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Post by grandsalami on Apr 12, 2016 19:27:35 GMT -5
Well, now we know what Farrell was saving his challenges for. And then he managed to con the crew chief into not taking away the challenge for it. its an umpire reviewed challenge... JF did not waste anything.. ALL HR reviews are UMPIRE INITIATED
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Post by rjp313jr on Apr 12, 2016 19:29:52 GMT -5
So Alex Speier just said Clay Buchholz has been one of the 5 best pitchers in the AL East since he's been in the majors. What a dumb statement from a smart guy. Eh, I don't think it's that far off. Since 2007, Buchholz is 18th in the AL in Fangraphs' RA9-WAR. The AL East guys ahead of him are Jon Lester, CC Sabathia, David Price, James Shields, Jeremy Guthrie and Josh Beckett (there is also Buehrle, Halladay, and Lackey, but those guys accrued most of their value during that period in another division). ADD: If you only look at 2008-present, Buchholz jumps up to fifth (leapfrogging Guthrie and Beckett). Yea it's just a useless stat and he knows it. He's probably the only pitcher who's been in the AL East that long at this point and if you're going to use a cumulative statistic that matter a lot. Just didn't tell us anything useful. He's better than that.
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Post by grandsalami on Apr 12, 2016 19:29:54 GMT -5
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Post by huskies15 on Apr 12, 2016 19:30:39 GMT -5
I like Bogie, a lot, but his swing never looks on balance to me. If he kept things a bit quieter and balanced he could hit with more authority I think
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