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Post by sibbysisti on Apr 22, 2017 12:13:04 GMT -5
Nothing has changed.. Farrell still sux and he proved it yesterday by not letting Sale finish a gem.. Every move is the wrong move.. thanks Dave Better get used to it. Dave signed him to an extension four months ago.
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Post by grandsalami on Apr 22, 2017 15:04:12 GMT -5
Nothing has changed.. Farrell still sux and he proved it yesterday by not letting Sale finish a gem.. Every move is the wrong move.. thanks Dave Aren't you a cheery fellow.
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Post by James Dunne on Apr 22, 2017 22:53:41 GMT -5
Nothing has changed.. Farrell still sux and he proved it yesterday by not letting Sale finish a gem.. Every move is the wrong move.. thanks Dave If Sale had come out for the ninth and given up the run, you'd be in here complaining that Farrell left him in too long. Because, as you said, every move is the wrong move.
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Post by sibbysisti on Apr 23, 2017 8:36:19 GMT -5
Nothing has changed.. Farrell still sux and he proved it yesterday by not letting Sale finish a gem.. Every move is the wrong move.. thanks Dave If Sale had come out for the ninth and given up the run, you'd be in here complaining that Farrell left him in too long. Because, as you said, every move is the wrong move. Not only that, but what's the purpose in getting an elite closer like Kimbrel if you don't use him in a situation like this? Classic case of Monday am QBing.
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Post by dnfl333 on Apr 23, 2017 11:43:19 GMT -5
Nothing has changed.. Farrell still sux and he proved it yesterday by not letting Sale finish a gem.. Every move is the wrong move.. thanks Dave If Sale had come out for the ninth and given up the run, you'd be in here complaining that Farrell left him in too long. Because, as you said, every move is the wrong move. You are correct! My defense of the statement.Sale is at Kershaw level, let him pitch the shutout or attempt to finish a gem. Lack of offensive punch this early has to be a concern as well. Ortiz gone does hurt the middle of the lineup. You still have hitters who can mash.Barring injury. It's obvious the LH RH approach is not working John.. Pedroia XB Ramirez Betts Benny Moreland Bradley Sandoval C
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Post by danr on Apr 23, 2017 21:03:51 GMT -5
I don't know much more than what I see in the boxscore and occasionally see on TV but I suspect Farrell knows more than most of us about the condition of his players. It is not a big deal with me whether he leaves Sale in, or not. Sale's ego doesn't need that complete game. Considering the team's injuries and lack of power so far, I don't think he is doing a bad job.
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Post by Don Caballero on Apr 24, 2017 20:04:14 GMT -5
Considering the team's injuries and lack of power so far, I don't think he is doing a bad job. Personally I think he's been doing a great job thus far. Team has faced some adversities but they never look rocked by it and they gutted out some tough wins. Obviously I'm not impartial here, but I'm prouder than ever to have always been on this bandwagon so I'm going to enjoy the good times lol.
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Post by dnfl333 on Apr 25, 2017 23:05:16 GMT -5
Considering the team's injuries and lack of power so far, I don't think he is doing a bad job. Personally I think he's been doing a great job thus far. Team has faced some adversities but they never look rocked by it and they gutted out some tough wins. Obviously I'm not impartial here, but I'm prouder than ever to have always been on this bandwagon so I'm going to enjoy the good times lol. Even as clock is right twice a day
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Post by telluricrook on Apr 26, 2017 17:03:41 GMT -5
If he brought in his 8th Inning guy to throw at someones head he should be fired!
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Post by station13 on Apr 26, 2017 23:12:02 GMT -5
If he brought in his 8th Inning guy to throw at someones head he should be fired! E-rod could not so it was Barnes. I don't believe for a second Machado head was the target. Though It blew up in his face.
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Post by dnfl333 on Apr 29, 2017 22:03:59 GMT -5
Day late and a dollar short Farrell..
Dombrowski's biggest mistake other than Shaw to Milwaukee is bringing back this stiff.
A Managers job is to lead, not listen to players in the media talk about missing Ortiz. Give me a break. Give me Leyland
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Post by bigpupp on Apr 29, 2017 23:04:28 GMT -5
It's truly amazing the things Farrell gets blamed for around here.
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Post by telluricrook on Apr 29, 2017 23:26:17 GMT -5
Hey I dont blame him for Abad coming in and giving up a Homerun. Wait... He does know that Zobrist is a switch hitter right?
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Post by Don Caballero on Apr 30, 2017 0:27:53 GMT -5
Give me a break. Give me Leyland
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Apr 30, 2017 0:45:51 GMT -5
In all fairness, yesterday was a great time to bump up this thread.
Leaving in Wright too long (a fly ball knuckle ball pitcher) in a game where the ball was flying out of Fenway on a humid windy day where the wind was blowing towards RF.
Farrell blew a lead and turned it into a deficit trying to squeak a extra inning from Wright, who has been the Sox worst performing starter to this point, all game factors aside too.
Farrell probably isn't close to losing his job yet but personally, I don't see much improvement from his in game desicions.
I don't know why someone would bring up the Travis Shaw trade, or any roster moves however. That's quite baffling.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Apr 30, 2017 8:55:24 GMT -5
In all fairness, yesterday was a great time to bump up this thread. Leaving in Wright too long (a fly ball knuckle ball pitcher) in a game where the ball was flying out of Fenway on a humid windy day where the wind was blowing towards RF. Farrell blew a lead and turned it into a deficit trying to squeak a extra inning from Wright, who has been the Sox worst performing starter to this point, all game factors aside too. Farrell probably isn't close to losing his job yet but personally, I don't see much improvement from his in game desicions. I don't know why someone would bring up the Travis Shaw trade, or any roster moves however. That's quite baffling. Yup, dnfl333 says a lot of baffling things. The Travis Shaw thing is a joke. 3b is a black hole for the Red Sox, but I'm not sitting here wishing Shaw was here trying to fill it. The guy was less than worthless over the final four months of the season. And when the season came down to - down a run, with two runners on in the last of the 9th against Cleveland in Game 3 with Shaw batting, I knew the Red Sox' season and David Ortiz's career was over. That's how little faith I had in Shaw. So while he's off to a nice start with Milwaukee, he was off to a much better one last year with Boston. How did that turn out? dnfl333 said that a broken clock is right twice a day and he's correct about that so I'm sure he'll be right about something else too in a day. I've yet to see it, though.
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Post by sibbysisti on Apr 30, 2017 10:17:42 GMT -5
Isn't it amazing that, when things go right and the team wins, you never read a compliment on these pages toward John Farrell?
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Post by soxjim on Apr 30, 2017 18:33:50 GMT -5
Isn't it amazing that, when things go right and the team wins, you never read a compliment on these pages toward John Farrell? Isn't it amazing when things go wrong some people will never accept that John made a dumb move and always look to provide an excuse? Anyhow a new year for me. I think he's doing a bad job right now. And the team is not playing as well as they should. Not all John ofc. But your post says it all. The team is under-performing at this short juncture of the season - though it means little- and you seem to want some kisses thrown at John even though the Sox are under-performing.
I'm still psyched for the season. Hope everyone including management- yes even DD - performs well.
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Post by telson13 on Apr 30, 2017 20:49:48 GMT -5
Isn't it amazing that, when things go right and the team wins, you never read a compliment on these pages toward John Farrell? Isn't it amazing when things go wrong some people will never accept that John made a dumb move and always look to provide an excuse? Anyhow a new year for me. I think he's doing a bad job right now. And the team is not playing as well as they should. Not all John ofc. But your post says it all. The team is under-performing at this short juncture of the season - though it means little- and you seem to want some kisses thrown at John even though the Sox are under-performing.
I'm still psyched for the season. Hope everyone including management- yes even DD - performs well.
Their HR/FB rate is under 5%. Average is 10. The worst power-hitting teams in a season are between 8 and 9. Their struggles are largely based on weak RS totals, and that's largely power-related. Their BA/OBP are great. The team's underperformance is largely bad luck. And I'm no Farrell apologist. But for a guy who says winning a WS in the next three years means Dombrowski made the right moves, I'd think you'd give Farrell more credit for 2013. Or is three years the statute of limitations in that sort of thing?
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Post by telson13 on Apr 30, 2017 20:54:39 GMT -5
Isn't it amazing that, when things go right and the team wins, you never read a compliment on these pages toward John Farrell? Amazing? Nah... totally predictable, yeah. He's no Tito and a lot of his bullpen moves make me cringe, but I do get the sense that he's a good manager of people and personalities. That's one point Don Caballero makes about Farrell that I fully agree with. And wonky personnel decisions aside, Betts, Bogaerts, JBJ, Benintendi, and ERod have all blossomed under his watch.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on May 1, 2017 21:33:08 GMT -5
Put a hamster in at the managers position. Anything. Just get rid of Farrell.
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Post by sibbysisti on May 2, 2017 21:20:31 GMT -5
There he goes again! Farrell blew it. He has Chris Sale pitching "a gem" with only 115 pitches and he pulls him to be replaced by a closer with only eight saves.
This was a golden opportunity to give Chris a complete game and he denied him. Sale must be devastated. Farrell must go!!!
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Post by dnfl333 on May 5, 2017 19:06:47 GMT -5
At some point you have to hold a player or players accountable. I continue to watch mental mistakes, lack of small ball during the offensive slump. Lack of base stealing, hit and run and the agony of watching the bullpen usage.
Its not all on Farrell. At some point you have to get better with or take chances as a Manager.
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Post by mattpicard on May 9, 2017 9:24:50 GMT -5
Chris Mason @bychrismason 1m1 minute ago Travis Shaw was pretty candid on @section10pod talking about his relationship with John Farrell last season.
Chris Mason @bychrismason Shaw: "The communication wasn't there. That was kind of the thing that I didn't like. But Torey kind of kept me sane."
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Post by Chris Hatfield on May 9, 2017 10:59:30 GMT -5
What communication? He was the starter pretty much all season, then in September they finally tried to make a move when he was hitting .200 or so for the past three months.
I've heard from a source on the Red Sox beat that Shaw felt entitled to stay in the lineup even when he wasn't hitting and got really butt-hurt (as we all saw in his quotes at the time) when they called up Moncada and started playing Holt ahead of him. Maybe they could've explained a bit better that "hey, you need to start hitting" or something sooner, but what did he think was going to happen? I call sour grapes.
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