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Post by jimed14 on Jul 11, 2016 16:27:02 GMT -5
This is one strange thread so far. He had two short starts in Salem and people are actually debating whether he'll debut in the majors this year?
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Post by burythehammer on Jul 11, 2016 16:52:09 GMT -5
No, one person said that but apparently I'm the one overstating things by saying that a guy with a poor walk rate walks a lot of guys.
I'm not even down on Kopech. It just may seem so because I'm responding to someone making hyperbolic and flat out baseless statements to make him out to be something he's not.
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Post by bosox81 on Jul 11, 2016 16:54:46 GMT -5
Your mistake is taking that guy seriously. Pay attention.
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Post by jimed14 on Jul 11, 2016 17:01:25 GMT -5
I would definitely trade Kopech straight up for Tehran though.
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Post by deepjohn on Jul 11, 2016 17:16:41 GMT -5
I would definitely trade Kopech straight up for Tehran though. Tehran is a city. You can't trade for it.
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Post by burythehammer on Jul 11, 2016 17:18:02 GMT -5
Your mistake is taking that guy seriously. Pay attention. This is probably true.
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Post by deepjohn on Jul 11, 2016 17:21:36 GMT -5
This is one strange thread so far. He had two short starts in Salem and people are actually debating whether he'll debut in the majors this year? Such is the awesomeness of the small sample size (and the condition, "if he keeps it up").
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Post by jmei on Jul 11, 2016 17:24:37 GMT -5
This is one strange thread so far. He had two short starts in Salem and people are actually debating whether he'll debut in the majors this year? Such is the awesomeness of the small sample size (and the condition, "if he keeps it up"). What do you think the odds are of him keeping it up?
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Post by telson13 on Jul 11, 2016 17:25:24 GMT -5
If Kopech eventually makes AA this year, I could see Dombrowski adding him to the playoff roster a la rookies K-Rod or Price. He loves those big arms.
Edit: just to be clear, I don't think it's likely, but I wouldn't be surprised
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jul 11, 2016 17:27:20 GMT -5
Think we can book his ticket to the AFL this offseason? Seems pretty obvious to me.
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Post by deepjohn on Jul 11, 2016 17:28:01 GMT -5
Such is the awesomeness of the small sample size (and the condition, "if he keeps it up"). What do you think the odds are of him keeping it up? IMHO, it's really only injury that can keep him from keeping it up. Knock on wood!!! Barring injury he makes a K-rod/Price appearance. Wait, is there an echo in here? ADD: Myself, I thought they would draft Burdi, but then I realized, wait, they think they already have Kopech for that! Ah, now it makes sense! Even a blind squirrel....
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Post by telson13 on Jul 11, 2016 17:29:52 GMT -5
Such is the awesomeness of the small sample size (and the condition, "if he keeps it up"). What do you think the odds are of him keeping it up? 4:1
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Post by telson13 on Jul 11, 2016 17:32:18 GMT -5
Well, OP's question was, where does Kopech fall in your own ranking of prospects? The pundits have Kopech a distant fifth. I call BS. He is throwing 56% strikes and hitters can't make hard contact. He's got a wipeout slider. His mechanics are simple and deceptive. No pitch tipping for this guy. Ready to run through A, AA, AAA, and if he's still throwing strikes without hard contact, then he makes a Sept. callup. Leaving the pundits and their butt-covering aside, he's 1/1A/1B with Benny/Moncada. Untradeable. Warning - overreaction alert!! Now all we need is the GM of the Marlins to fall head over heels for 1 A-Advanced start and Michael Kopech can headline a trade for Jose Fernandez. Count me in. Don't get me wrong, I like Kopech a lot, and feel like he deserves some credit for obviously working during the time he missed for his suspension and foolish injury, but 1 impressive start in A+ is exactly that 1 impressive start. The God given ability is there for this kid to become something special, and I wouldn’t care to see Kopech traded for peanuts right now, but we are still talking about a pitcher who has a lot of development in front of him and a ton of variance between his floor and ceiling. That's well-put.
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Post by jmei on Jul 11, 2016 17:32:52 GMT -5
What do you think the odds are of him keeping it up? IMHO, it's really only injury that can keep him from keeping it up. Knock on wood!!! Barring injury he makes a K-rod/Price appearance. Wait, is there an echo in here? ADD: Myself, I thought they would draft Burdi, but then I realized, wait, they think they already have Kopech for that! Ah, now it makes sense! Even a blind squirrel.... Care for a friendly bet? If Kopech stays healthy but does not make an appearance in a major league game this year (regular season or playoffs), I set your profile picture through Opening Day 2017. If Kopech stays healthy and does make such an appearance, you set my profile picture through Opening Day 2017. If he is injured, no one sets anything. Deal?
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Post by deepjohn on Jul 11, 2016 17:36:17 GMT -5
Wait, who's betting on what? I set your profile pic, if I'm right?
ADD: oh, that's funny! I see.... yes, you will set my profile pic with a horse's a$$. Perfect!
You're on!
And of course, if he's traded, then you also win!! Because I absolutely guarantee he won't be!
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Post by greatscottcooper on Jul 11, 2016 18:25:49 GMT -5
I'll wager my first born that Kopech will not end up in the major leagues this year.
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Post by mgoetze on Jul 11, 2016 18:28:22 GMT -5
I'll wager my first born that Kopech will not end up in the major leagues this year. www.vhemt.org
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Post by jimed14 on Jul 11, 2016 18:42:04 GMT -5
IMHO, it's really only injury that can keep him from keeping it up. Knock on wood!!! Barring injury he makes a K-rod/Price appearance. Wait, is there an echo in here? ADD: Myself, I thought they would draft Burdi, but then I realized, wait, they think they already have Kopech for that! Ah, now it makes sense! Even a blind squirrel.... Care for a friendly bet? If Kopech stays healthy but does not make an appearance in a major league game this year (regular season or playoffs), I set your profile picture through Opening Day 2017. If Kopech stays healthy and does make such an appearance, you set my profile picture through Opening Day 2017. If he is injured, no one sets anything. Deal? If you win, can you post a poll so we can all vote on it?
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Post by dfwsox on Jul 11, 2016 18:45:07 GMT -5
Hahah I like the bet, payoff now matter who wins. Anyway it is exciting to have a guy with that kind of arm talent along with Espinoza. We need to get that pipeline going and keep that steady! Hard to do but pulling for it.
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Post by ray88h66 on Jul 11, 2016 18:45:33 GMT -5
Wait, who's betting on what? I set your profile pic, if I'm right? ADD: oh, that's funny! I see.... yes, you will set my profile pic with a horse's a$$. Perfect! You're on! And of course, if he's traded, then you also win!! Because I absolutely guarantee he won't be! Not sure how long you've been here. Jmei ,is actually kind with his avatar choices. Not sure, but can't remember him losing yet. I'll keep a blank avatar if he bets me, and move on.
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Post by burythehammer on Jul 11, 2016 18:57:01 GMT -5
I'll ban myself from this forum if he even gets to AAA this year.
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Post by larrycook on Jul 11, 2016 19:37:33 GMT -5
At the rate we have been putting players on the dl, there may come a time this season that kopech is literally the next man up.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Jul 11, 2016 19:42:36 GMT -5
At the rate we have been putting players on the dl, there may come a time this season that kopech is literally the next man up. lol, that might be very true. All things considered, the odds on his making the majors is very small but not zero. It's clearly the longshot. If I were in Vegas, I'd want some pretty long odds to bet that side. I'm also pretty sure that how he pitched over the last two plus innings would get major league hitters out but that isn't the real question. The question is can he maintain it consistently enough to make the jumps or any jump for that matter. That remains to be seen. Shouldn't the biggest question here be whether or not he can stay on the field for the rest of the season ?
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Post by tonyc on Jul 11, 2016 20:59:17 GMT -5
Actually the biggest question will be whether Dombrowski's love of power arms will be enough to hold his trigger finger and ignore the pull of every (idiot) writer except Spier and the fans (and perhaps the front office) in their wake.
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Post by sibbysisti on Jul 12, 2016 6:49:28 GMT -5
I would definitely trade Kopech straight up for Tehran though. Tehran is a city. You can't trade for it. I ran for the Atlas when I read your post.
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