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Post by Guidas on Aug 10, 2016 16:03:42 GMT -5
Evan Drellich evandrellich 9 sec. Get this: Steven Wright hurt his shoulder pinch running in LA diving back into bag. Scratched from next start. MRI showed no structural dmg. Unbelievable. Another questionable decision turned sour. Amazing.
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Post by ericmvan on Aug 10, 2016 16:11:03 GMT -5
1. Pedroia 2. Bogaerts 3. Betts new lineup for to-nite Better ... Here are the current 2016 metrics. TS is Table-Set, net RBI opportunities provided for teammates, and KI is Knock-In, ability to knock your teammates in. Ratio is TS/ KI and measures how much you should be at the top of the order. TAv is how good you are and also measures how much you should be at the top of the order. Name TS KI Rat TAv David Ortiz .443 .928 .478 .317 Mookie Betts .476 .909 .523 .305 Jackie Bradley .516 .821 .629 .295 Xander Bogaerts .516 .791 .652 .283 Dustin Pedroia .484 .746 .649 .273 Hanley Ramirez .447 .709 .630 .271 Travis Shaw .438 .762 .575 .268 The four best hitters include the two best table-setters and the two best knock-in guys. Bogaerts, Bradley, Betts, Ortiz is kind of a no-brainer, followed by Pedroia, Ramirez, Shaw. However, Pedroia likes to hit ahead of the thunder, and he is the 3rd best table-setter (even with the DP's) and has the second highest ratio. He's good enough to hit leadoff for most clubs. There's a slight suggestion that JBJ may be better when he's near the end of the thunder, too. So ... Pedroia Bogaerts Ortiz Betts Bradley Ramirez Shaw would be perfectly OK. I don't see the point of Betts 3 and Ortiz 4, which then forces you into two LHB in a row in the 5 through 7 spots.
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Post by ematz1423 on Aug 10, 2016 16:39:42 GMT -5
Eh, I'd rather have mookie hitting ahead of ortiz since ortiz is not exactly fleet of foot. Would hate for betts to hit one off of the monster and only get a single because ortiz is clogging the bases for him.
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Post by telluricrook on Aug 10, 2016 17:17:08 GMT -5
Evan Drellich evandrellich 9 sec. Get this: Steven Wright hurt his shoulder pinch running in LA diving back into bag. Scratched from next start. MRI showed no structural dmg. Unbelievable. Another questionable decision turned sour. Amazing. Yeah its also going to be 93 degrees and muggy as hell.
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Post by telluricrook on Aug 10, 2016 17:22:39 GMT -5
Remember how Kenley Jansen embarased the Red Sox last weekend? In his next appearance against the Phillies today in a non save situation he got knocked around only getting two outs, and walked two and allowed three runs. Weird
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Post by theghostofjoecronin on Aug 10, 2016 17:24:52 GMT -5
Evan Drellich evandrellich 9 sec. Get this: Steven Wright hurt his shoulder pinch running in LA diving back into bag. Scratched from next start. MRI showed no structural dmg. Unbelievable. Another questionable decision turned sour. Oof. That's not good. Michael Kopech Brian Johnson time?
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Post by telluricrook on Aug 10, 2016 17:31:55 GMT -5
It probably would be Kopech if he didnt miss the fifty games last season and the beginning of this season.
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Post by glassox on Aug 10, 2016 17:39:01 GMT -5
It probably would be Kopech if he didnt miss the fifty games last season and the beginning of this season. There is really 0% chance it would have been Kopech if he missed 0 games. It makes no sense to start his pro clock yet. He would also be almost maxed on innings limits if he didnt sit. Many people in line before him also.
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Post by Don Caballero on Aug 10, 2016 17:45:09 GMT -5
Oof. That's not good. Michael Kopech Brian Johnson Keith Couch time? ftfy
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Aug 10, 2016 18:07:03 GMT -5
Yeah its also going to be 93 degrees and muggy as hell. Yeah I think this was a made up injury based on the weather too. If that's the case, then good on the Sox for doing this imo. We will tell if he's really hurt if Wright goes on the DL after they skip one start, then sox fans can freak out.
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Post by splendidsplinter on Aug 10, 2016 18:09:15 GMT -5
With that explanation they just gave for the ground rules, why does the line in CF even exist? Only balls that hit behind that CF wall are HR? I don't think that is true. boston.redsox.mlb.com/bos/ballpark/information/index.jsp?content=groundrulesFenway Park Ground Rules Batted ball over line on top of the left field wall: Home Run. Fair ball going through scoreboard, either on the bound or in flight: Two Bases. Batted ball in flight striking to the right of yellow line on left center field wall behind flagpole: Home Run. Batted ball in flight striking left center field wall to left of line behind flagpole and bounding into seats on top of center field wall: Home Run. Batted ball in flight striking left of line in right center field and bounding into bullpen: Home Run. Fair ball striking the ladder below top of left field wall and bounding out of park: Two Bases. Seems clear enough. Funny, Girardi knew what ground rules were, the MFY announcers knew what they were, but the NESN announcers were arguing that hitting the yellow line was a home run. After listening to 185 year old Vin Scully out inform, out hustle, and out entertain our local broadcasting darlings the question arises...don't the fans deserve better?
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Post by Gwell55 on Aug 10, 2016 18:19:29 GMT -5
boston.redsox.mlb.com/bos/ballpark/information/index.jsp?content=groundrulesFenway Park Ground Rules Batted ball over line on top of the left field wall: Home Run. Fair ball going through scoreboard, either on the bound or in flight: Two Bases. Batted ball in flight striking to the right of yellow line on left center field wall behind flagpole: Home Run. Batted ball in flight striking left center field wall to left of line behind flagpole and bounding into seats on top of center field wall: Home Run. Batted ball in flight striking left of line in right center field and bounding into bullpen: Home Run. Fair ball striking the ladder below top of left field wall and bounding out of park: Two Bases. Seems clear enough. Funny, Girardi knew what ground rules were, the MFY announcers knew what they were, but the NESN announcers were arguing that hitting the yellow line was a home run. After listening to 185 year old Vin Scully out inform, out hustle, and out entertain our local broadcasting darlings the question arises...don't the fans deserve better? And now the umpires went and took pictures of the top of the wall in center to confirm that there is NO padding on the wall when Benny's ball hit the top to make it a home run as they correctly ruled. In fact Nesn confirmed that just now. NY replay claimed it hit the padding in front of the top of wall. That now is shown to be incorrect. So now who wins??? LOL
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Aug 10, 2016 18:49:37 GMT -5
One other thing - I kind of have to give Farrell some credit here. There was a lot of complaining about Matt Barnes being used in important situations when a lot of people here considered him to be just about the worst reliever the Sox have. Farrell kept using him, had faith in him, and saw something in him that said this kid is going to improve with experience. So far that's the case - Barnes (along with Ziegler) has been very valuable out of the bullpen, which they need with Kimbrel not right and Koji possibly out for the season. Thank you. They know who they are and they aren't saying much anymore.
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Post by Guidas on Aug 10, 2016 18:54:32 GMT -5
Barnes went to UConn so you knew he'd figure it out and then shine.
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Post by nomar on Aug 10, 2016 18:59:26 GMT -5
Yeah let's have the hottest hitter on the team bunt. Farrell is the worst.
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Post by Guidas on Aug 10, 2016 18:59:37 GMT -5
Can't wait to hear Farrell say Benintendi bunted on his own.
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Post by jimed14 on Aug 10, 2016 18:59:45 GMT -5
Let's hope Benintendi's first career bunt will be his last.
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Aug 10, 2016 19:00:29 GMT -5
Barnes went to UConn so you knew he'd figure it out and then shine. UConn? i heard they played basketball at that school?
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Aug 10, 2016 19:02:07 GMT -5
Yeah...he's not here to bunt (maybe for a hit) that was pretty dumb
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Post by doctorduck21 on Aug 10, 2016 19:03:48 GMT -5
Can't wait to hear Farrell say Benintendi bunted on his own. I don't want Benintendi bunting either but how do you know He didn't do that on his own. It wouldn't be the first time a young player has done that. Guess it's always Good= player, bad= Farrell
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Post by jimed14 on Aug 10, 2016 19:05:16 GMT -5
One other thing - I kind of have to give Farrell some credit here. There was a lot of complaining about Matt Barnes being used in important situations when a lot of people here considered him to be just about the worst reliever the Sox have. Farrell kept using him, had faith in him, and saw something in him that said this kid is going to improve with experience. So far that's the case - Barnes (along with Ziegler) has been very valuable out of the bullpen, which they need with Kimbrel not right and Koji possibly out for the season. Thank you. They know who they are and they aren't saying much anymore. I don't think relief pitchers need to "figure out" high leverage situations. They can pitch better in lower leverage first, which Barnes did.
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Post by soxfan06 on Aug 10, 2016 19:05:33 GMT -5
Can't wait to hear Farrell say Benintendi bunted on his own. I don't want Benintendi bunting either but how do you know He didn't do that on his own. It wouldn't be the first time a young player has done that. Guess it's always Good= player, bad= Farrell More like, young players in the 2nd week in the majors don't often go rogue and freeball out there on the field. They pretty much just do what they are told til they establish themselves a bit. That and being that dumb is just pinnacle Farrell.
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Post by jimed14 on Aug 10, 2016 19:06:03 GMT -5
Can't wait to hear Farrell say Benintendi bunted on his own. I don't want Benintendi bunting either but how do you know He didn't do that on his own. It wouldn't be the first time a young player has done that. Guess it's always Good= player, bad= Farrell If that's true, then it's on Farrell to tell his players to not bunt.
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Post by Don Caballero on Aug 10, 2016 19:06:34 GMT -5
Can't wait to hear Farrell say Benintendi bunted on his own. Can't wait to see that a failed bunt in the 3rd inning of a tied game really isn't important enough to be remembered afterwards.
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Post by ianrs on Aug 10, 2016 19:06:53 GMT -5
If that was Farrell, between that and the shortsighted, idiotic use of Wright, how much worse can you get? He just keeps costing this team. Embarrassing. Can't wait to see that a failed bunt in the 3rd inning of a tied game really isn't important enough to be remembered afterwards. So now Farrell should only be held accountable when he exceeds a certain threshold of win probability forfeited? These things add up over the course of the season, and could end up costing the Red Sox a playoff spot when the race is this tight, even if its just one or two wins (between bunts, poor situational hitter/bullpen use, Wright missing a start or two, etc.).
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