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Post by redsox3in10 on Oct 5, 2016 8:26:12 GMT -5
Apologies if I've missed it, but have they announced the final 25-man roster yet?
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Oct 5, 2016 9:48:13 GMT -5
Apologies if I've missed it, but have they announced the final 25-man roster yet? No. It's not due until tomorrow morning.
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Post by dmaineah on Oct 5, 2016 12:17:15 GMT -5
Apologies if I've missed it, but have they announced the final 25-man roster yet? The Red Sox don't have to file their 25-man roster until 10 a.m. Thursday
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Post by redsox3in10 on Oct 5, 2016 20:11:46 GMT -5
Thank you.
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Post by mredsox89 on Oct 6, 2016 9:44:05 GMT -5
Vazquez as the backup C according to Ian Browne of MLB.com
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Oct 6, 2016 9:54:57 GMT -5
BOSTON, MA – The Boston Red Sox today announced the team’s 25-man active roster for their American League Division Series with the Cleveland Indians. The roster is as follows: PITCHERS (11): Matt Barnes, Clay Buchholz, Joe Kelly, Craig Kimbrel, Drew Pomeranz, Rick Porcello, David Price, Eduardo Rodriguez, Robbie Ross Jr., Koji Uehara, Brad Ziegler. CATCHERS (2): Sandy Leon, Christian Vazquez. INFIELDERS (8): Xander Bogaerts, Marco Hernandez, Aaron Hill, Brock Holt, David Ortiz, Dustin Pedroia, Hanley Ramirez, Travis Shaw. OUTFIELDERS (4): Andrew Benintendi, Mookie Betts, Jackie Bradley Jr., Chris Young.
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Post by The Town Sports Cards on Oct 6, 2016 10:13:44 GMT -5
No Tazawa, no Abad and no Hembree in the pen. Vazquez over Hanigan, and Marco as the designated pinch runner. My only complaint is I really wish we had picked up a 2004 Roberts or 2013 Berry over Hernandez. He has ok speed, but there isn't anyone faster available that the Sox could have picked up? I know we all wanted Moncada, and he's definitely the fastest option, but I'm guessing his base running instincts are still a work in progress and that's why he wasn't kept.
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Post by mredsox89 on Oct 6, 2016 10:40:26 GMT -5
No Tazawa, no Abad and no Hembree in the pen. Vazquez over Hanigan, and Marco as the designated pinch runner. My only complaint is I really wish we had picked up a 2004 Roberts or 2013 Berry over Hernandez. He has ok speed, but there isn't anyone faster available that the Sox could have picked up? I know we all wanted Moncada, and he's definitely the fastest option, but I'm guessing his base running instincts are still a work in progress and that's why he wasn't kept. I think part of it is that there aren't a ton of guys you are going to PR for. Betts, Bogaerts, Pedroia, JBJ, Holt, Benny, Hanley? Basically down to PR for Ortiz/catcher/maybe Hanley, and then Ortiz/Hanley are only getting replaced if it's a one run game in the final frame, so it's mostly PR for the catcher, which managers rarely do anyways. Competent base runner with decent speed as your last man on the bench, who can fill in at multiple IF positions if absolutely necessary. That's about as good as they could have done once then decided that Moncada wasn't an option. Moncada not even being ready enough to be a potential pinch runner is the biggest issue about the potential roster ATM, which is pretty small given what could have been some much larger issues with the rotation and bullpen
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Post by radiohix on Oct 6, 2016 11:19:53 GMT -5
Tazawa is a better pitcher than Barnes.
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Post by jodyreidnichols on Oct 6, 2016 11:35:27 GMT -5
Tazawa is a better pitcher than Barnes. So why did they pick Barnes?
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Oct 6, 2016 13:14:06 GMT -5
Shocked that they left Taz off.
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Post by jimed14 on Oct 6, 2016 13:41:48 GMT -5
I wonder if Taz is dealing with an injury.
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Post by bosox81 on Oct 6, 2016 13:52:45 GMT -5
I'm happy they decided to go with CVaz over Hanigan. Kudos to the organization on getting that right, which by the looks of this thread it was not an obvious choice.
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Post by bosox81 on Oct 6, 2016 13:59:19 GMT -5
Also, I see no point to carrying Aaron Hill. He's been useless with the Sox and Cleveland has no southpaws aside from Miller. But it's not like Hill has any chance against Miller anyways. So to me Hill is a waste of a spot.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Oct 6, 2016 14:16:49 GMT -5
No Tazawa, no Abad and no Hembree in the pen. Vazquez over Hanigan, and Marco as the designated pinch runner. My only complaint is I really wish we had picked up a 2004 Roberts or 2013 Berry over Hernandez. He has ok speed, but there isn't anyone faster available that the Sox could have picked up? I know we all wanted Moncada, and he's definitely the fastest option, but I'm guessing his base running instincts are still a work in progress and that's why he wasn't kept. It's been reported that they did try to sign Berry himself, but Berry chose to sign with Toronto, and he was released on September 7, meaning if they signed him he wouldn't have been eligible for the postseason. I think it's pretty clear they may have hoped Moncada could fill that role, but they clearly didn't like what they saw out of him in his brief audition.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Oct 6, 2016 14:20:58 GMT -5
Also, I see no point to carrying Aaron Hill. He's been useless with the Sox and Cleveland has no southpaws aside from Miller. But it's not like Hill has any chance against Miller anyways. So to me Hill is a waste of a spot. An eighth relief pitcher would also have been a waste of a roster spot given the number of off-days they have. Anyone in particular you'd rather have seen in that roster spot? Remember, with no more than two games in a row, you can, in theory, use a reliever every game of the series, so long as he's not going multiple innings.
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Post by art on Oct 6, 2016 15:01:22 GMT -5
IMO, the problem with having Barnes on the roster is that Farrell might put him into a game in a key spot. I have a lot more trust in Tazawa and Hembree.
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Post by brianthetaoist on Oct 6, 2016 16:10:50 GMT -5
I was hoping for Taz over Barnes and Vazquez over Hanigan so... 50/50.
Last guy in the bullpen isn't too likely to be a big deal, but I do trust Tazawa more.
Kelly emerging was huge, though
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2016 16:45:02 GMT -5
Nothing too surprising for me here. Neither Hanigan nor Vazquez provides anything with the bat. I think a case could be made for Hanigan because of his experience, but I have no problem with the Sox going with the better defender despite his inexperience.
As for picking Barnes over Tazawa, this was a no brainer to me. For the last few weeks, I never even entertained the possibility that Tazawa would make the postseason roster. He has nothing left. Barnes is the right choice. All things being equal, pick the guy who throws 99.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Oct 6, 2016 17:12:57 GMT -5
Also, I see no point to carrying Aaron Hill. He's been useless with the Sox and Cleveland has no southpaws aside from Miller. But it's not like Hill has any chance against Miller anyways. So to me Hill is a waste of a spot. An eighth relief pitcher would also have been a waste of a roster spot given the number of off-days they have. Anyone in particular you'd rather have seen in that roster spot? Remember, with no more than two games in a row, you can, in theory, use a reliever every game of the series, so long as he's not going multiple innings. For what it's worth, the point about Miller is a good one. I just don't think there was a position player who was going to help you more, and you want to keep Hill in things given that he could be more useful in later rounds.
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Post by jimed14 on Oct 6, 2016 17:25:42 GMT -5
Nothing too surprising for me here. Neither Hanigan nor Vazquez provides anything with the bat. I think a case could be made for Hanigan because of his experience, but I have no problem with the Sox going with the better defender despite his inexperience. As for picking Barnes over Tazawa, this was a no brainer to me. For the last few weeks, I never even entertained the possibility that Tazawa would make the postseason roster. He has nothing left. Barnes is the right choice. All things being equal, pick the guy who throws 99. In Tazawa's last 7 appearances, his line: 7.1 IP 5H 0R 1BB 7K Really makes no sense that Farrell stopped using him when it looked like he was getting it back together unless there is some injury or soreness that we've heard nothing about.
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Post by soxpatsceltics on Oct 6, 2016 17:34:01 GMT -5
Marrero would have been a better pick than Hernandez. Better defensive replacement and a faster runner. Hitting is not a requirement of a 5th bench player.
The best defensive 9th inning is probably Marrero-Bogaerts-Pedroia-Shaw, I'm surprised that Hernandez made it as the slower runner and worse fielder.
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Post by bosox81 on Oct 6, 2016 18:25:45 GMT -5
An eighth relief pitcher would also have been a waste of a roster spot given the number of off-days they have. Anyone in particular you'd rather have seen in that roster spot? Remember, with no more than two games in a row, you can, in theory, use a reliever every game of the series, so long as he's not going multiple innings. For what it's worth, the point about Miller is a good one. I just don't think there was a position player who was going to help you more, and you want to keep Hill in things given that he could be more useful in later rounds. Honestly, I would've rather seen Tazawa in there. True, that you don't need that many relievers, but with some of these relievers I fear implotions and having more relievers helps you see who will not fold under pressure and stick with them. It's really just a nitpicking, though, which might've been your point.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Oct 6, 2016 18:29:33 GMT -5
Marrero would have been a better pick than Hernandez. Better defensive replacement and a faster runner. Hitting is not a requirement of a 5th bench player. The best defensive 9th inning is probably Marrero-Bogaerts-Pedroia-Shaw, I'm surprised that Hernandez made it as the slower runner and worse fielder. Marrero is a better defender, but his defense took a significant step backwards this year to the point that I wouldn't use that as part of the equation. A lot of his issues were with plays he should've made, so it's not even like he just isn't making as many spectacular ones. As far as running, I'm not even sure there's a huge difference there either.
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Post by soxjim on Oct 6, 2016 18:53:51 GMT -5
Would have taken Scott over Hernandez. I don't think Hernandez will contribute at all in the series (now watch him steal 4 bases and score the winning run). But that's okay. Few more minutes and we start!!
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