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Post by philsbosoxfan on Apr 22, 2017 19:47:25 GMT -5
Batting practice.
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Apr 22, 2017 19:49:10 GMT -5
Live by the knuckleball...Die by the Knuckleball.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Apr 22, 2017 19:50:41 GMT -5
Farrell needs to start using Wright as a pinch runner between starts.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Apr 22, 2017 20:37:01 GMT -5
Man, this offense has been flat for most of the young season. The loss of David Ortiz is being felt, even with his "replacement", Mitch Moreland playing well.
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Post by telluricrook on Apr 22, 2017 20:38:31 GMT -5
This is like 2014 & 2015 again. Im Jealous of the Yankees! Such a good offense.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Apr 22, 2017 20:40:50 GMT -5
Cool, troll time.
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Post by sarasoxer on Apr 22, 2017 20:55:22 GMT -5
This is like 2014 & 2015 again. Im Jealous of the Yankees! Such a good offense. Well the Yankees are beating the Sox substantially in pitching, batting, defense and run differential (best in baseball) and coming from baseball's best spring record. It appears that was not a fluke They also have the first or second rated farm system plus a huge ability to get into the free agent market going forward. At this point it looks like good potential for a resumption of Yankee dominance for an extended period. But this is where we were a year ago. Things can change and maybe some in our depleted system will exceed expectations.
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Post by telluricrook on Apr 22, 2017 21:00:30 GMT -5
Of course Erod is pitching in another day game. He has only pitched at night once and that was one inning in Toronto and he looked nasty.
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Post by telluricrook on Apr 22, 2017 21:04:04 GMT -5
This is like 2014 & 2015 again. Im Jealous of the Yankees! Such a good offense. Well the Yankees are beating the Sox substantially in pitching, batting, defense and run differential (best in baseball) and coming from baseball's best spring record. It appears that was not a fluke They also have the first or second rated farm system plus a huge ability to get into the free agent market going forward. At this point it looks like good potential for a resumption of Yankee dominance for an extended period. But this is where we were a year ago. Things can change and maybe some in our depleted system will exceed expectations. And they Achieved such a great farm system with the Andrew Miller and Chapman trades right?
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Post by telluricrook on Apr 22, 2017 21:07:51 GMT -5
Omg Clint Frazier is the ugliest baseball player I have ever seen!
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Post by radiohix on Apr 22, 2017 21:25:01 GMT -5
I'm happy we didn't reach the "Fire the hitting coach" discussion yet.
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Post by sarasoxer on Apr 22, 2017 21:29:03 GMT -5
Well the Yankees are beating the Sox substantially in pitching, batting, defense and run differential (best in baseball) and coming from baseball's best spring record. It appears that was not a fluke They also have the first or second rated farm system plus a huge ability to get into the free agent market going forward. At this point it looks like good potential for a resumption of Yankee dominance for an extended period. But this is where we were a year ago. Things can change and maybe some in our depleted system will exceed expectations. And they Achieved such a great farm system with the Andrew Miller and Chapman trades right? Yup and we depleted ours in trades too. Two different approaches but a one year complete reversal in team profile. Right now I'd take the Yanks upside for the next 5 years or so. But if we feel we aren't going anywhere, we could trade some of our stars like Sale or an outfielder or two to rearm as they did. We have two reliable starters and will have (hopefully) a good bullpen if Thornburg and Smith get healthy. Price is another big question..the longer we wait, the longer we may suffer from his absence and possible return to form.
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Post by dirtdog on Apr 22, 2017 22:20:52 GMT -5
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Post by Don Caballero on Apr 22, 2017 22:25:26 GMT -5
This is like 2014 & 2015 again. Im Jealous of the Yankees! Such a good offense. Well, they are a insurmountable 1.5 game ahead of us. Right now I'd take the Yanks upside for the next 5 years or so. But if we feel we aren't going anywhere, we could trade some of our stars like Sale or an outfielder or two to rearm as they did. LOL this got me pretty good, I love when sports anger makes way for sheer uncontrollable zaniness.
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Post by telluricrook on Apr 22, 2017 22:51:43 GMT -5
I'm happy we didn't reach the "Fire the hitting coach" discussion yet. You Brought it up
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Post by rjp313jr on Apr 23, 2017 0:20:43 GMT -5
So Wright was a fluke last year?
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Post by telluricrook on Apr 23, 2017 0:57:42 GMT -5
So Wright was a fluke last year? Just a half year. The second half he had alot of bad outings
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Post by telluricrook on Apr 23, 2017 0:58:18 GMT -5
The Bats Need to Wake Up!!!
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Post by sarasoxer on Apr 23, 2017 7:05:17 GMT -5
This is like 2014 & 2015 again. Im Jealous of the Yankees! Such a good offense. Well, they are a insurmountable 1.5 game ahead of us. Right now I'd take the Yanks upside for the next 5 years or so. But if we feel we aren't going anywhere, we could trade some of our stars like Sale or an outfielder or two to rearm as they did. LOL this got me pretty good, I love when sports anger makes way for sheer uncontrollable zaniness. Yeah I was a bit zany there. Thanks for dashing me with a little cold water. It is borne of frustration. I hate the Yanks so much and they never seem to have a real down period. Even the last decade when one might think they were a bit off, they had the best record in baseball. We were 5th. Judge looks like a stud. Bird (not hitting at the moment) will come around and Sanchez, out, will be a beast. Once Gardner & Ells exit and if they sign Harper, Oooff. The bullpen is young and one of the best. Tanaka, Pineda and Severino all have outstanding stuff and are both young yet seasoned. We are just not scoring and so far lack any thump. Pablo can't hit RH so at least that has been reaffirmed. Hanley worries me as someone who might sour if the team doesn't play well. Time for my meds....
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Post by James Dunne on Apr 23, 2017 8:03:22 GMT -5
Have the Yankees won an LCS game in the last seven years? The only time in the last four years they've even made the playoffs, the Astros bounced them in the wild-card play-in. We've gotta grow out of the Yankees inferiority complext hing.
Anyway, this has been a pretty all-around bad series. Good work by the bullpen both days though. I guess Wright is making it easy to pick who loses their rotation spot when/if Price comes back.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Apr 23, 2017 8:36:10 GMT -5
I don't think it's as much a Yankee superiority thing as much as it's a man, I wish the Red Sox were thinking along those lines kind of thing.
The Red Sox are obviously prioritizing the next few seasons and hoping that somehow they rebuild their farm system over the new few years into what it looked like before they dealt a huge chunk of it away.
Meanwhile the Yankees have started to rebuild with exciting prospects and somehow manage to do it without having to go 69-93 or something like that. They have payroll relief coming and a good amount of money for the premier young free agents. That makes them very dangerous in the future, the kind of team that could have sustained excellence, especially at a time the Red Sox start losing their stars and quite possibly won't have the level of farm system available to replenish.
Meanwhile, in this crucial 3 year window, the Red Sox don't resemble the 100 win juggernaut some think they are (the Sox haven't won 100 games since 1946 so when somebody makes that prediction I normally roll my eyes).
I personally think the Red Sox will play better and the division looks weak enough to take. I don't think the Orioles or Yankees are juggernauts either for that matter. The division is up for grabs.
I think, given the tenor of moves, that Dombrowski has made, there's more of a sense of urgency that the Red Sox must not only show themselves to be the best team in the division, but also the best in the league and ASAP as the Dombrowski clock is ticking. Personally, for me, it's only April. Tough to get too worked up about the team this early in the season. Unless you're the 1984 Tigers it's tough to win a division in April, but you can certainly lose it if you play bad enough.
The Sox haven't done that. I do question if the offense, in totality, will be as productive as some think, and I also question how much quality and quantity they will get out of David Price, and if one of Pomeranz, Wright, or E-Rod will take the step forward to be a top flight starter (Wright actually was one until he pinch-ran) The bullpen at some point will need Carson Smith and/or Tyler Thornburg to be healthy and effective or they will eventually run into issues.
My overall concern with this team is that this team will resemble the 1988 - 1990 Red Sox(good and contending, but flawed teams) during this window instead of the 2003 - 2004 (fearsome teams capable of going deep into the playoffs) Red Sox that they need to be, given the nature of Dombrowski's moves.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Apr 23, 2017 8:54:13 GMT -5
The Yankees are where the 2014 or 2015 Sox were then. Okay so maybe they won't be in last place, but they still have 2 years of 2-3 years of development to see where they are at.
Kapprelian just had Tommy John surgery. Bird is coming off major shoulder surgery and isn't hitting. These are major red flags to some of their best prospects. 2-3 weeks of baseball doesn't make them all that great. Go check who they've faced to date this year. The Cardinals, Pirates, White Sox, the Rays, the Blue Jays. These are all teams who have either have played really poorly or are bad teams in general. Things aren't really that rose colored in Yankee land people.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Apr 23, 2017 8:57:35 GMT -5
The Orioles however are a serious threat to take this division by the end of the year, because of their amazing bullpen and high powered offense. Their rotation will probably take them back to earth at some point too though.
The Sox aren't in a bad position right now, they're just not playing as well as we all hoped to start the year.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Apr 23, 2017 11:48:31 GMT -5
The Diamondbacks lead the NL in run differential. There's your powerhouse. SSS.
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Post by Don Caballero on Apr 23, 2017 12:05:55 GMT -5
Yeah I was a bit zany there. Thanks for dashing me with a little cold water. It is borne of frustration. I hate the Yanks so much and they never seem to have a real down period. Even the last decade when one might think they were a bit off, they had the best record in baseball. We were 5th. Judge looks like a stud. Bird (not hitting at the moment) will come around and Sanchez, out, will be a beast. Once Gardner & Ells exit and if they sign Harper, Oooff. The bullpen is young and one of the best. Tanaka, Pineda and Severino all have outstanding stuff and are both young yet seasoned. We are just not scoring and so far lack any thump. Pablo can't hit RH so at least that has been reaffirmed. Hanley worries me as someone who might sour if the team doesn't play well. Time for my meds.... I get you man, there's a very peculiar kind of frustration one can only have by being somewhat invested in a sports team lol. And since we're not going to win it all more often than we are going to win, pessimism is basically inevitable. But looking at the Yankees core, I don't see anything there that's better than what we have. I'd rather have our core of Mookie, JBJ, Benny and Xander then what the Yankees are trotting out there. The rotations are close, but I like ours better as well since they don't have anything that's close to Chris Sale. I also take solace on the fact that our bullpen currently doesn't feature any wife abuser. This is not going to be a popular opinion here, but I think that Girardi is the best manager in the MLB right now, so they have an advantage in that front although I'm obviously a huge Farrell fan. Sure, their farm system is currently better, but ours have been better for so long that it was inevitable that this would eventually happen. To shorten it, they have a great core and a great future. We have a great core and a great future. Everything's awesome and let's just enjoy being on top or close to it, because a quick look at the Blue Jays this year will tell you that the good times won't last forever.
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