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Post by Guidas on Jun 3, 2017 11:45:42 GMT -5
You just know that DD is shopping for bats right now. Another prospect trade would shut this site down. Never thought it would be this difficult for these guys to score runs consistently. We should be right there with the douches from NY, what, with our decent pitching this year. Frustrated. What real "Bat" can he get without giving up Devers AND Groome? Unless there's some contract out there even more hideous than Pablo's that's also "a bat" (Stanton, Cano, Miggy Cabrera) but my sense is you'd have to take all their money AND give away a good prospect or two, even for the albatross that is Stanton's contract.
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Post by jackiebradleyjrjr on Jun 3, 2017 12:32:36 GMT -5
You just know that DD is shopping for bats right now. Another prospect trade would shut this site down. Never thought it would be this difficult for these guys to score runs consistently. We should be right there with the douches from NY, what, with our decent pitching this year. Frustrated. What real "Bat" can he get without giving up Devers AND Groome? Unless there's some contract out there even more hideous than Pablo's that's also "a bat" (Stanton, Cano, Miggy Cabrera) but my sense is you'd have to take all their money AND give away a good prospect or two, even for the albatross that is Stanton's contract. I think we could get JD Martinez without giving up either of them. But I think the bigger problem is we're more than one bat away from a championship caliber team. I hope I'm wrong on that point though.
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Post by jimed14 on Jun 3, 2017 13:40:38 GMT -5
What real "Bat" can he get without giving up Devers AND Groome? Unless there's some contract out there even more hideous than Pablo's that's also "a bat" (Stanton, Cano, Miggy Cabrera) but my sense is you'd have to take all their money AND give away a good prospect or two, even for the albatross that is Stanton's contract. I think we could get JD Martinez without giving up either of them. But I think the bigger problem is we're more than one bat away from a championship caliber team. I hope I'm wrong on that point though. The problem is that there is no guarantee that JD Martinez would do better than anyone he might replace for the rest of the season. And also, it's not late July so we have to wait a few months for anything to happen anyway.
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Post by soxfansince67 on Jun 3, 2017 15:12:03 GMT -5
Just a bit of news from a game this afternoon (talk about having home run envy) - "Jason Grilli became the first reliever in Blue Jays history to give up four home runs in one inning. Brett Gardner, Matt Holliday, Starlin Castro and Didi Gregorius all hit solo home runs against Grilli in the 8th inning to give the Yankees a 7-0 lead."
Let's hope it's catchy...would love to see some Sox-hit balls leave the stadium tonight (well, hear - game is blacked out for me)
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Post by radiohix on Jun 3, 2017 15:15:21 GMT -5
If you want to hijack a DH-only spot on the roster of an offensive juggernaut in the AL East at 22M/year, you've got to give me a .900 plus OPS. Also,I just can't stand him: The dreadlocks, the helmet dropping, the low baseball IQ Seriously? Yes that thing is ugly.
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Jun 3, 2017 16:34:53 GMT -5
What real "Bat" can he get without giving up Devers AND Groome? Unless there's some contract out there even more hideous than Pablo's that's also "a bat" (Stanton, Cano, Miggy Cabrera) but my sense is you'd have to take all their money AND give away a good prospect or two, even for the albatross that is Stanton's contract. I agree. I am not advocating for doing anything really. I think this team will still win over 90 games and make the playoffs. It is a bad break for us we can't seem to put up the numbers for out really good pitching this year, so far this year. Let's hope the worm begins to turn.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jun 3, 2017 18:06:06 GMT -5
Yes, the Sox should hit better as the season warms. Then it cools in Sept and Oct, so likewise the Red Sox offense should taper off by then, too. Nobody is saying Judge is Williams' equal, but he's a damn good player. I think a lot of people, myself included, thought that Rookie of the Year award would be Benitendi's. Nobody anticipated Judge picking up where Sanchez left off last season. It's pretty obvious that the Yankees have a gem of their own. Jim, I know you're an analytical, non-emotional fan, and I respect that. I also know you're a long-timer like me. What does your gut tell you about this team? Based on your experiences of watching this team through all the good and bad and mediocre over the past 30 something years? I have a pretty good sense of statistical oddities, laws of averages, etc, but when it comes to the Sox I also have a sixth sense about them. I've been wrong before with that sixth sense of mine, I'll admit, but sometimes you just get a feel about a team. I don't feel a deep Oct run is happening. I could very well be wrong - that's why they play the games, right? But I don't see a team that's as good as we hoped - and the injuries are definitely playing a big part. I'm rougher on this team because of Dombrowski's stance of firing all of your guns at once, leading to this smaller window of time, one in which the Sox are supposed to be the class of the league while they leave the Yankees and Orioles in the dust. And anything less is a disappointment. I brought up Judge because he actually is getting results like Ted Williams. It's not sustainable. His BABIP is over .400 and his HR/FB% is 40.9%. There are actually 5 Yankees hitters with a HR/FB% of over 20%. The Red Sox have 2 (Marrero and Sandoval). It's very rare to be over 20%. Papi was at 18.7% for his career. I really think the Red Sox have the capability to go on a good run. They are only 3 games out at the beginning of June. The Yankees and Orioles are playing way over their heads and the Red Sox have been disappointing thus far. Red Sox pitching is FAR superior to either team. The injuries cannot be overlooked either. Hopefully the luck turns there. I didn't agree with Dombrowski's moves either, but I don't let it change my expectations. I expect to be entertained. I am being entertained. I don't need them to win every game or be in the playoffs every year for me to be entertained. My life won't change if they don't win. I'll just say 'wait til next year' like I've done my whole life. Maybe I didn't live in New England long enough to be like most Red Sox fans. (I moved away when I was 16) If they make the playoffs great. If they win a round great. If they win the championship, I'll be ecstatic. I don't expect it though. They've won enough in my life that I can't be disappointed again. Real disappointment was 1986 and 2003. That can't ever happen again because they've won since then. It's not possible to ever be that disappointed from 2004 on. I used to live and die with sports and let it affect my mood and my life. People in my life knew to stay away from me if my team lost and that's sad and ridiculous. I finally realized that caring that much about a sport played by a bunch of zillionaires is stupid. It's supposed to be entertainment, not my life. I now often turn off stinker games and forget about it until the next game. I only take the positive parts of watching baseball now and ignore the negative. It's done wonders for my quality of life. I'm also of the belief that worrying about things on a game to game basis is pointless. There is so much variance of outcomes that has nothing to do with the quality of the team because it's baseball. It's not the NBA where the Cavs have a 99.5% chance of beating the Celtics in a playoff round. Some people here worry about things on a pitch to pitch basis and start criticizing someone like Xander because he didn't hit a home run on a pitch right down the middle. If he hit all of them, he'd wind up with about 200 home runs. I don't really bother critiquing a season until it's August. They're in a position to win the division with ease right now. Fangraphs still has them winning the division. I commend you. It's a good attitude to have. Like you, I want to be entertained. If the Sox are playing a stinker, it's easy to turn off the game and watch a movie instead or something else. At this point in my life baseball is a treat. I don't get the opportunity to watch from start to finish like I used to in my younger days when things felt a lot simpler. I'm addicted to that sensation of championship winning as I have a shrine dedicated mainly to the Red Sox and their 8 Championships focusing on the 3 from this century and the Patriots and their 5 Super Bowl championships. I admit to being spoiled that anything less than that feels disappointing although I can't say I'm entitled. I remember 1986 like it was yesterday and of course, 2003, and no I don't think I can ever be as disappointed. 2011 was embarrassing but they got what they deserved so it didn't bother me too much. I was looking forward to a long sustained run of excellence like they had when Theo ran the team, when 95 wins was routine and the norm. Like you, I learned not to let the wins and losses dictate my mood. I blow off steam here when the Sox disappoint, although if they go on one of those 2004 or 2007 post-season runs, I will let that affect my mood in a positive way and I can't wait to get that sensation again. The 1st Championship in 04 was so it could happen in my lifetime, the second one in 07 was so that it wouldn't take 86 more years for it to happen, the third one in 13 (Didn't see that one coming!) was to see what Fenway Park would look like if they won it all and hopefully the next one will be one I can enjoy side-by-side with my little boy. And of course, if that happens, I'll have a shrine to redecorate.
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Post by station13 on Jun 3, 2017 18:39:05 GMT -5
Betts not being able to hit pitches outside corner is mind boggling.
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Post by dnfl333 on Jun 3, 2017 19:12:17 GMT -5
Benny 20 for his last 102 AB still hitting in the top of the order, is even more of a head scratcher..
Go John go, you ain't made a bad move yet
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Post by larrycook on Jun 3, 2017 19:17:19 GMT -5
This offense is putrid!
They have a habit of making mediocre pitchers look like cry young candidates.
They really need a veteran slugger to lead the youngsters!
Maybe by the time the season ends, sox ownership will wake up and realize they have a huge problem in the leadership of the baseball operations department.
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Post by atzar on Jun 3, 2017 19:23:57 GMT -5
Hanley!
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Post by benogliviesbrother on Jun 3, 2017 19:25:29 GMT -5
Dreadlocks and everything.
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Post by jimed14 on Jun 3, 2017 19:54:50 GMT -5
David Price is the answer to our prayers this season.
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Post by wesmantooth on Jun 3, 2017 19:57:29 GMT -5
Really not looking forward to Kendrick or Velazquez coming back into this rotation smh...
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Post by benogliviesbrother on Jun 3, 2017 19:59:47 GMT -5
Hit it where they aint, Andrew.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jun 3, 2017 20:01:38 GMT -5
Really not looking forward to Kendrick or Velazquez coming back into this rotation smh... It'll be Brian Johnson...
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Post by benogliviesbrother on Jun 3, 2017 20:11:02 GMT -5
Really not looking forward to Kendrick or Velazquez coming back into this rotation smh... It'll be Brian Johnson... Maybe not. Left game after 1 2/3 tonight.
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Post by station13 on Jun 3, 2017 20:17:30 GMT -5
Offense still sleep walking.
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Post by benogliviesbrother on Jun 3, 2017 20:22:56 GMT -5
They need to plunk Machado again.
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Post by station13 on Jun 3, 2017 20:23:58 GMT -5
Or stop giving him inside pitches.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jun 3, 2017 20:35:12 GMT -5
You shouldn't be bunting with Benintendi, no matter how bad he's slumping.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jun 3, 2017 20:43:11 GMT -5
DREADLOCKS!!!
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Post by benogliviesbrother on Jun 3, 2017 20:43:25 GMT -5
1 run in this point in the game is huge. Totally defensible sacrifice, methinks.
Edit: who cares now?
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Post by wskeleton76 on Jun 3, 2017 20:45:01 GMT -5
Thanks, Ubaldo Jiménez
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jun 3, 2017 20:45:30 GMT -5
1 run in this point in the game is huge. Totally defensible sacrifice, methinks. Edit: who cares now? Thankfully, Ubaldo is still terrible at pitching.
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