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Post by jimed14 on Jul 31, 2017 11:51:48 GMT -5
Need I remind you that Papi was 40 and Ted Williams 42.....and had plenty left. I understand the point you're making but Nick Punto doesn't belong in the same sentence as Ortiz and Ted Williams. I don't think you understand. Punto is here to save the lineup and the season. I'd bat him 4th after a week of playing.
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Post by sarasoxer on Jul 31, 2017 12:03:59 GMT -5
You need to ease him back in for sure... but no lower than 5th in this moribund lineup.....
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Post by sarasoxer on Jul 31, 2017 13:00:14 GMT -5
Hey Addam jimed and I were kidding picking up on grandsalami's joke about the Sox and Punto. Sorry.
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Post by Addam603 on Jul 31, 2017 13:07:17 GMT -5
Hey Addam jimed and I were kidding picking up on grandsalami's joke about the Sox and Punto. Sorry. You're good. I'm notoriously slow on the uptake. No worries.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jul 31, 2017 13:23:41 GMT -5
I still think there could be a Jay Bruce deal in August once he passes through waivers inevitably too. If the Sox wait until mid August, they could probably stay under the luxury tax threshold too with less money owed to Bruce by that time.
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Post by ephus on Jul 31, 2017 13:42:51 GMT -5
Don't post much here anymore. But felt it'd be a missed opportunity if I didn't note the 10th anniversary of Engle Beltre Meltdown Day, a day that I joined many others in losing my mind that we'd traded The Future. A cautionary tale for any Trade Deadline Day.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Jul 31, 2017 13:48:20 GMT -5
Don't post much here anymore. But felt it'd be a missed opportunity if I didn't note the 10th anniversary of Engle Beltre Meltdown Day, a day that I joined many others in losing my mind that we'd traded The Future. A cautionary tale for any Trade Deadline Day. It was for Eric Gange wasn't it? Only Gange forgot to bring his roids to Boston.
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Post by soxfanatic on Jul 31, 2017 14:10:10 GMT -5
Deal is official. 40 man move is Rutledge to the 60 day DL, which keeps him in the organization.
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Post by ericmvan on Jul 31, 2017 14:14:16 GMT -5
Deal is official. 40 man move is Rutledge to the 60 day DL, which keeps him in the organization. Just barely, as he won't be eligible to come off it until late September. And then he'll be DFA'd during the winter.
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Post by cotuitfan on Jul 31, 2017 14:16:12 GMT -5
Brian Cashman trades three broken down prospects for Sonny Gray ... I'm sick
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Post by notguilty on Jul 31, 2017 14:23:20 GMT -5
Brian Cashman trades three broken down prospects for Sonny Gray ... I'm sick Why? Haven't you heard Billy "Moneyball" Beane is a genius?
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jul 31, 2017 14:25:46 GMT -5
Brian Cashman trades three broken down prospects for Sonny Gray ... I'm sick Sonny Gray is just a big name, he isn't as good as you think he is anymore.
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Post by adiospaydro2005 on Jul 31, 2017 16:09:18 GMT -5
Not sure that Reed is going to make much of difference for the Red Sox. Sure the Red Sox are probably not as bad as they have played the last couple of weeks. However, we have also seen them shut down by mediocre pitching throughout 2017. I don't want to see them trade anyone in the top 15 for a chance to make a wild card game. This team has way too many flaws to make a deep run in the playoffs in 2017. Can you explain in any kind of detail why you believe they cannot make a deep playoff run. Sure...their offensive has little to no power and has been shut down by even mediocre pitching throughout 2017. There are holes throughout their lineup which can be shut down in a wild card game or short series. They have a #1 starter in Sale, a number #3 starter in Pomeranz, a #4 starter in Price who has never won a playoff game that he has started and a #5 starter in Porcello who is prone to giving up the long ball. What makes you think the Red Sox have more than a "lucky punch" chance to compete in the playoffs?
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Jul 31, 2017 16:14:37 GMT -5
Brian Cashman trades three broken down prospects for Sonny Gray ... I'm sick Those are 3 really good prospects though. It's a risky move for A's, but it could look Brilliant in a couple years.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Jul 31, 2017 16:18:59 GMT -5
I'm just upset we didn't add a power bat. The going rate was very cheap. With this offense a few HRs here and there could make a big difference.
Nunez was a nice jolt, we just need more power. A Duda or Bruce type hitter would have been big.
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Post by texs31 on Jul 31, 2017 16:20:59 GMT -5
Some of those bats might make it through waivers though??
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Jul 31, 2017 16:22:43 GMT -5
Can you explain in any kind of detail why you believe they cannot make a deep playoff run. Sure...their offensive has little to no power and has been shut down by even mediocre pitching throughout 2017. There are holes throughout their lineup which can be shut down in a wild card game or short series. They have a #1 starter in Sale, a number #3 starter in Pomeranz, a #4 starter in Price who has never won a playoff game that he has started and a #5 starter in Porcello who is prone to giving up the long ball. What makes you think the Red Sox have more than a "lucky punch" chance to compete in the playoffs? there was that stretch before the TB series prior to the ASB that showed the peak level of this team and confirmed my feeling that this team is built to win it all. If the offense gets it together, a big if (of course), there is no reason to think this team can't win it.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Jul 31, 2017 16:27:17 GMT -5
Some of those bats might make it through waivers though?? Let's hope so.
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Post by Guidas on Jul 31, 2017 19:42:43 GMT -5
Not sure that Reed is going to make much of difference for the Red Sox. Sure the Red Sox are probably not as bad as they have played the last couple of weeks. However, we have also seen them shut down by mediocre pitching throughout 2017. I don't want to see them trade anyone in the top 15 for a chance to make a wild card game. This team has way too many flaws to make a deep run in the playoffs in 2017. Can you explain in any kind of detail why you believe they cannot make a deep playoff run. They haven't won a series since July 5, and have been ineffective against very good and average starting pitchers over the last month. They are 5-38 in games where they score 3 runs or fewer. Along with having problems scoring, they are among the worst HR-hitting teams in baseball in a year where homers have been up league-wide. They have run into more outs than any other team in baseball. Their defense is mediocre. They are poorly managed. That's off the top of my head.
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Post by Guidas on Jul 31, 2017 19:51:59 GMT -5
Brian Cashman trades three broken down prospects for Sonny Gray ... I'm sick Sonny Gray is just a big name, he isn't as good as you think he is anymore. He's given up 19 ERs in his last 10 starts and has averaged more than 6 innings a start. At a glance that's not too shabby. Add that offense behind him and a very good pen and it's a get any fan would be excited about - especially when you consider they got him for nothing they will miss.
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Post by Don Caballero on Jul 31, 2017 20:10:17 GMT -5
Gonna have to call bullsh*t on this one. Regardless of what you think about Farrell, he's doing a tremendous job taking an injury-riddled team that can't hit for sh*t with a broken down bullpen to being only half a game out of first place in the division with a lot of baseball left. He dealt with some adversities as well with the off the field stuff and he kept on keeping on. Remember that time Pomeranz got into his face and the word was that he lost the team? Yeah, nobody does. He kept the team together and was able to avoid a complete meltdown even during a very bad time for baseball. This is not a good year to criticize Farrell.
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Post by benogliviesbrother on Jul 31, 2017 21:28:44 GMT -5
Gonna have to call bullsh*t on this one. Regardless of what you think about Farrell, he's doing a tremendous job taking an injury-riddled team that can't hit for sh*t with a broken down bullpen to being only half a game out of first place in the division with a lot of baseball left. He dealt with some adversities as well with the off the field stuff and he kept on keeping on. Remember that time Pomeranz got into his face and the word was that he lost the team? Yeah, nobody does. He kept the team together and was able to avoid a complete meltdown even during a very bad time for baseball. This is not a good year to criticize Farrell. Meanwhile, it's 5 weeks and counting on PriceGate (shouldn't that be EckGate in deference to his HOF career?) and the person paid to manage the clubhouse -- presumably that includes the team airplane -- has not resolved this huge distraction. Tonight, in the heat of a pennant race, the star right fielder forgets how many outs there are. They run into boneheaded outs like crazy. Bostonians have been fortunate to watch how a well-managed team operates for many years now. Does ANY (it's an abridged list of infractions -- I'm tired and going to bed) of the above seems like something BB would tolerate?
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Jul 31, 2017 21:31:11 GMT -5
Sonny Gray is just a big name, he isn't as good as you think he is anymore. He's given up 19 ERs in his last 10 starts and has averaged more than 6 innings a start. At a glance that's not too shabby. Add that offense behind him and a very good pen and it's a get any fan would be excited about - especially when you consider they got him for nothing they will miss. Yea they won't miss 3 of there top 10 prospects per Law. Law had the injured pitcher rated as the 28th best prospect in Baseball to start the year. They gave up 3 top 100 prospect type players. Yes two are injured, but they gave up a lot of talent. Hearing you guys talk about other trades just shows how much you overrate our prospects.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Jul 31, 2017 21:34:06 GMT -5
Deal is official. 40 man move is Rutledge to the 60 day DL, which keeps him in the organization. Just barely, as he won't be eligible to come off it until late September. And then he'll be DFA'd during the winter. I'm sure Rutledge is happy. If we sent him back to the Angels he'd likely be sent to AAA. There's a wee bit of difference between a major and minor league salary.
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Post by Don Caballero on Jul 31, 2017 22:00:26 GMT -5
Meanwhile, it's 5 weeks and counting on PriceGate (shouldn't that be EckGate in deference to his HOF career?) and the person paid to manage the clubhouse -- presumably that includes the team airplane -- has not resolved this huge distraction. Tonight, in the heat of a pennant race, the star right fielder forgets how many outs there are. They run into boneheaded outs like crazy. Bostonians have been fortunate to watch how a well-managed team operates for many years now. Does ANY (it's an abridged list of infractions -- I'm tired and going to bed) of the above seems like something BB would tolerate? Huge distraction? Why? Does the team look distracted by a heated exchange between a player and a commentator? If full grown men are distracted by this they all need to be DFAd just out of principle. And right, an OF having a brain fart is the manager's fault. And even righter, they're not great at the basepaths, but they're middle of the pack. They're 16th among all 30 teams in Baserunning Runs and you know what is the worst team of all at that? The Indians. Yes, the Indians. I guess Terry Francona must be fired as well. And if your standard for coach being good at his job is probably the best of his kind in the history of the 4 major professional sports of the United States of America, you must feel let down quite easily.
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