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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jul 8, 2017 21:13:15 GMT -5
The more I think about it the more annoyed I get. Farrell zeroed in on the pitcher's strengths but ignored his own batters' strengths.
Young is pretty useless against righties while JBJ handles righties very well. It doesn't matter as much if the pitcher struggles more against righties if your RH batter can't hit right-handed pitching.
All in all, I'm mostly fine with Farrell as manager but his game decision making is so questionable. It's the kind of thing that could bite them in the butt at the worst time.
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Post by DesignatedForAssignment on Jul 8, 2017 21:34:14 GMT -5
CANNOT help but wonder who would have played 1B in the 10th? Looks like Marrero
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Post by soxfansince67 on Jul 8, 2017 21:50:49 GMT -5
The more I think about it the more annoyed I get. Farrell zeroed in on the pitcher's strengths but ignored his own batters' strengths. Young is pretty useless against righties while JBJ handles righties very well. It doesn't matter as much if the pitcher struggles more against righties if your RH batter can't hit right-handed pitching. All in all, I'm mostly fine with Farrell as manager but his game decision making is so questionable. It's the kind of thing that could bite them in the butt at the worst time. Clear example of over analysis - too much reliance on stats, not enough of the feel of the game - or just simply that JBJ is hot. Live by the stats, die by the stats, I guess.
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Post by Guidas on Jul 8, 2017 22:21:10 GMT -5
Also if one is actually take such small sample stats as Farrell cited regarding R-L splits vs Colome this year in nearly the same number of PAs this year LH have 13 BB and a .333 OBP vs Colome this year, 3 BB for RH and a .301 OBP. Righties have found more holes against him, but again, Young is not a RH batter who's had much luck with RHP in hs career.
This was an opportunity to win a divsion game against a competitive, surging team, and to keep the other close challenger at bay. Yes, the lack of offense got them to this low point in the game, but so did a late effort put them in a position to win. A walk would've tied the game, a hit would've put Boston ahead.
In that situation, with the entire game on the line and one player offerring you an advantage - even if it's only a small, yet statistically signinificant advantage - over another player, why not use the better player for the situation? The opportunity was there - a simple binary choice. I still don't get deciding instead to go with the guy who had a slight, but a still significantly lower probability of success.
Playing the hunch did not yield success - and to be clear, we could 't be sure batting Bradley would've garnered a tie or win, either, but he had a higher probability of doing so. The ensuing loss allowed all the team's division competitors to gain a full game in the standings. So at the very least we know the outcome of this decision was failure, and the waste of a great pitching performance.
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Post by soxfansince67 on Jul 8, 2017 22:43:48 GMT -5
Also if one is actually take such small sample stats as Farrell cited regarding R-L splits vs Colome this year in nearly the same number of PAs this year LH have 13 BB and a .333 OBP vs Colome this year, 3 BB for RH and a .301 OBP. Righties have found more holes against him, but again, Young is not a RH batter who's had much luck with RHP in hs career. This was an opportunity to win a divsion game against a competitive, surging team, and to keep the other close challenger at bay. Yes, the lack of offense got them to this low point in the game, but so did a late effort put them in a position to win. A walk would've tied the game, a hit would've put Boston ahead. In that situation, with the entire game on the line and one player offerring you an advantage - even if it's only a small, yet statistically signinificant advantage - over another player, why not use the better player for the situation? The opportunity was there - a simple binary choice. I still don't get deciding instead to go with the guy who had a slight, but a still significantly lower probability of success. Playing the hunch did not yield success - and to be clear, we could 't be sure batting Bradley would've garnered a tie or win, either, but he had a higher probability of doing so. The ensuing loss allowed all the team's division competitors to gain a full game in the standings. So at the very least we know the outcome of this decision was failure, and the waste of a great pitching performance. Yes. It was a curious game - think of the "ifs" - if the DP play wasn't reversed. If Mookie didn't swing at 3-0 with a wild pitcher. If Xander stole second and thus in a position to score on Moreland's double. If Hanley actually engaged his brain when he was up at bat - all in addition to the big "if Farrell PH JBJ". Sox hit bullets that were caught, Rays had dinks fall in. Weird weird weird
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Post by Coreno on Jul 8, 2017 23:16:12 GMT -5
Mookie could use an off day soon. He is about to have a bunch with the all-star break coming. He wont get that much time to rest, considering he's starting in the game.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jul 9, 2017 4:10:53 GMT -5
CANNOT help but wonder who would have played 1B in the 10th? Looks like Marrero I think Sam Travis came into to pinch run for Leon, he probably would of stayed in the game at that point if the Sox had tied.
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Post by soxfansince67 on Jul 9, 2017 8:33:59 GMT -5
Interesting that on ESPN, NESN and WEEI websites, no mention at all of Farrell's head scratching decision to hit young instead of PH Bradley. Lazy (as in lack of) analysis?
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Post by jimed14 on Jul 9, 2017 9:27:33 GMT -5
He is about to have a bunch with the all-star break coming. He wont get that much time to rest, considering he's starting in the game. He has a day off before and after the game that he'll probably play 3 innings of.
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Post by grandsalami on Jul 9, 2017 12:09:10 GMT -5
runs are hard
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Post by jimed14 on Jul 9, 2017 12:13:05 GMT -5
It's a better game than yesterday already.
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Post by wesmantooth on Jul 9, 2017 12:25:37 GMT -5
How bout the guy who caught the HR nonchalant, one handed with no glove? lol impressive
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Post by Coreno on Jul 9, 2017 12:30:51 GMT -5
He wont get that much time to rest, considering he's starting in the game. He has a day off before and after the game that he'll probably play 3 innings of. Sure, but between the travel and all the media hubbub, there wont be a ton of downtime. It's better rest than an off day once a month, but probably not by a ton.
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Jul 9, 2017 12:45:31 GMT -5
I am generally concerned about some members inability to see the forest for the trees when dissecting JF decisions. As a general rule of thumb, when JF gives someone a day off......he means a day off. Even the X situation a couple of days ago was an extra inning deal and he tried his best not to put him in the game.
So he gave a reason for not pinch hitting Bradley, but it wasn't the reason. JF is a guy who uses wordplay when speaking to the media. This is just my opinion, but I am pretty confident in it, based on history.
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Post by Guidas on Jul 9, 2017 12:57:15 GMT -5
THAT was a brutal squander.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jul 9, 2017 12:58:58 GMT -5
I think there has been 1 run scored in the last 15 innings for the Sox....
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Post by grandsalami on Jul 9, 2017 12:59:10 GMT -5
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Jul 9, 2017 12:59:40 GMT -5
Non Game thread Observation. The Cubs are terrible and I love it.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jul 9, 2017 13:04:27 GMT -5
What in the freaking world?!!! Come on.
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Post by benogliviesbrother on Jul 9, 2017 13:06:24 GMT -5
Shoulda kept Lestah. He's an ACE.
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Post by soxfansince67 on Jul 9, 2017 13:08:10 GMT -5
Situational hitting. This is how it is done. Watching, Hanley?
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jul 9, 2017 13:08:56 GMT -5
That first ball to Morrison was a strike to Pedrioa about a inning ago.
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Post by soxfansince67 on Jul 9, 2017 13:15:02 GMT -5
On a positive note, ERod seems to have things fixed - 3 IP, 1 hit, no runs or walks, 4Ks. Will be great to get him back.
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Post by grandsalami on Jul 9, 2017 13:15:20 GMT -5
That first ball to Morrison was a strike to Pedrioa about a inning ago. ![](http://images.rcs.realclearpolitics.com/341533.jpg)
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jul 9, 2017 13:19:06 GMT -5
Hanley should of had third on that bloop and it might cost the Sox a run here.
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