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Post by umassgrad2005 on Dec 26, 2017 15:18:36 GMT -5
If Harrison would accept a Chris Long type role, sign him up. I can see him making a few big plays.
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Post by kingofthetrill on Dec 26, 2017 15:26:28 GMT -5
And a huge get for a team with the Steelers as maybe the only team in their way to the Super Bowl. Though those would have to be some awkward conversations after he played his entire career there.He was on the Bengals for the 2013 season over failed contract negotiations. After a brief retirement he rejoined the Steelers the following year. |
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Post by dakotaskye on Dec 26, 2017 17:18:15 GMT -5
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Post by rjp313jr on Dec 27, 2017 9:00:13 GMT -5
Harrison was a worthy risk. Cost them like 22k in cap space to sign him and he will be extremely motivated and as fresh as a 39 year old can be. Guy is a physical freak and could make a difference in limited passing downs. Plus, he may have some insight to the Steelers game plan vs the Patriots (although B.B. already knows having played them once and this is extremely over-rated)
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Post by jimed14 on Dec 31, 2017 15:29:03 GMT -5
Up 24-3 in the 4th quarter of week 17 and Brady still in the game making passes.
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Post by voiceofreason on Dec 31, 2017 15:45:43 GMT -5
Up 24-3 in the 4th quarter of week 17 and Brady still in the game making passes. Obviously we all love BB but this is just stupid!!! To what end. |
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Dec 31, 2017 15:58:21 GMT -5
What a year by Dion Lewis. What a good find he was 3 years ago.
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Post by Coreno on Dec 31, 2017 16:04:35 GMT -5
What a year by Dion Lewis. What a good find he was 3 years ago. Amazing what he can do when he's actually on the field. |
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Post by kingofthetrill on Jan 1, 2018 9:50:10 GMT -5
So Baltimore, the Chargers, and Seattle all didn't make the playoffs. I feel like it's my birthday. I'd much rather potentially face Buffalo or Tennessee than Baltimore or LAC. Heck, I'd rather face Jacksonville or Pittsburgh than Baltimore.
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Post by voiceofreason on Jan 1, 2018 12:01:03 GMT -5
What a year by Dion Lewis. What a good find he was 3 years ago. Amazing what he can do when he's actually on the field. And now he is adding to his game with this new patience behind the blocks aka. Bell. That is something that has to be gameplanned for. Imagine if he never blew out his knee how productive he would have been. If you have a healthy Gronk, Edelmen and Lewis with TB the Pats would score 40 a game. They have seldomly been healthy at the same time over the past 3 years. Something to look forward to next year. Could it be Toms last? |
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jan 1, 2018 12:30:46 GMT -5
Amazing what he can do when he's actually on the field. And now he is adding to his game with this new patience behind the blocks aka. Bell. That is something that has to be gameplanned for. Imagine if he never blew out his knee how productive he would have been. If you have a healthy Gronk, Edelmen and Lewis with TB the Pats would score 40 a game. They have seldomly been healthy at the same time over the past 3 years. Something to look forward to next year. Could it be Toms last? Dion Lewis is a free agent this off-season. |
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Post by mattpicard on Jan 4, 2018 17:29:49 GMT -5
Amazing to think that, as this season was about to unfold, many considered Lewis to be a legitimate cut candidate. As Jerry Thorton shares over at Barstool, Dion in 2017: Not to mention he's a great kick returner -- I do get scared every time he decides to bring one back, though. --- For the PFF respecters -- not great for the "Gilmore's a bust" crew: |
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Post by mattpicard on Jan 4, 2018 19:30:50 GMT -5
Now, this is... not so great:
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jan 4, 2018 22:21:00 GMT -5
I don't get how they feel everyone is going to break up after they literally traded Jimmy G. At that point it makes more sense to keep everyone together.
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Post by voiceofreason on Jan 5, 2018 4:42:19 GMT -5
Amazing to think that, as this season was about to unfold, many considered Lewis to be a legitimate cut candidate. As Jerry Thorton shares over at Barstool, Dion in 2017: Not to mention he's a great kick returner -- I do get scared every time he decides to bring one back, though. --- For the PFF respecters -- not great for the "Gilmore's a bust" crew: Lewis has been great but I didn't realize he has been this good, could make it expensive to resign him. If he has a big post season, which we all hope he does, the Pats will probably lose him. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2018 7:36:47 GMT -5
Seth Wickersham senior writer of ESPN the magazine reports Brady wanted Garoppolo gone. In a Bleacher Report article states that Belichick did not agree the Garoppolo deal. Is this a real story or non the anti Patriot media trying to cause friction before the playoffs
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Post by jimed14 on Jan 5, 2018 8:16:01 GMT -5
Seth Wickersham senior writer of ESPN the magazine reports Brady wanted Garoppolo gone. In a Bleacher Report article states that Belichick did not agree the Garoppolo deal. Is this a real story or non the anti Patriot media trying to cause friction before the playoffs The timing of course is intentional at the very least. |
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Post by jmei on Jan 5, 2018 8:50:28 GMT -5
The Friday of a Patriots bye week does not strike me as a particularly ripe time to drop this story. It’s not Monday before the Super Bowl or anything.
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Post by Oregon Norm on Jan 5, 2018 11:40:40 GMT -5
I read Wichersham's piece and, as might be expected, it's much longer that it has to be. The take home is very simple. Brady has said time and time again that he wants to keep playing. Kraft did the thing he just about never does, he used his ownership position to influence the decision making. Belichick, ever the football mind, understood clearly what he had and how he would like to proceed but was over-ruled. He reached out to a team he felt could use and would use Garropolo properly. He respects the Shanahan clan, their football acumen, and the way they stood up for him. I'd add that he also has a tremendous respect for good football players, and John Lynch was a very good one. That made it an easier decision.
It also made good tactical sense to send the QB off to the other side of the country to a team that is re-building, though that looks as if it's not going to take long at all given the gem they've been handed. It wasn't very surprising to read that the owner is having second thoughts. They are ecstatic in SF.
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Post by prangerx on Jan 5, 2018 12:02:03 GMT -5
The article never said anything about Brady asking Kraft to trade Jimmy. So that part of the hype yesterday was false. Kraft did order Bill to trade Jimmy once it was clear they weren't going to sign an extension. The coach did not want to do it but did what he was told.
I do think there is really friction. And if Bill had his way Grappolo would still be here. But there are other factors to this story like Alex Gurerro and Brady getting sick of Belichick coaching style.
Most members of the local media seem to not believe this will actually cause the coach to leave this season. But its possible it could end up hastening the end of things in the long run.
I am not really surprised by any of this. As you don't go from refusing to trade Grappolo under an circumtances to just flipping him for a second round pick several weeks into the season. The Bressit trade never would have happened either.
I think they should have hung on to Garoppolo until the end of the season and then decided what to do. The franchise tag would have allowed them to negotiate with teams a solid month before the league year began. You could have him traded minutes into fa if you had to.
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Post by wcp3 on Jan 5, 2018 12:04:04 GMT -5
The Friday of a Patriots bye week does not strike me as a particularly ripe time to drop this story. It’s not Monday before the Super Bowl or anything. It might not lead to the same frenzy as if it were dropped during SB week, but it guarantees the story has a longer shelf life. Obviously it’s unlikely the Pats lose next weekend, but dropping it now ensures it will be in the headlines until at least through next weekend - and likely longer. Not only was the entire story based on anonymous sources and anecdotes, but so many of the “conclusions” were based on the author’s conjecture and/analysis. Real reporting is supposed to let the facts lead readers to conclusions, not the other way around. |
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Post by jmei on Jan 5, 2018 12:11:10 GMT -5
Oh yeah, it was definitely a gossip piece, but it's newsworthy gossip.
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Post by prangerx on Jan 5, 2018 12:15:02 GMT -5
I really think the best move would have been to trade Brady at the end of the season and go with Garoppolo. Brady is 41 years old. If Bill Belichick really though Garoppolo was going to be the next guy then they should have done whatever it took to keep him. Kraft should have trusted Belichick like he always has. No player is above the team, not even Brady.
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Post by voiceofreason on Jan 5, 2018 12:36:58 GMT -5
Lots of circumstantial evidence from anonymous sources leading to some dubious conclusions. Based on what Bruschi had to say and others it does seem like there is a story here but not that big of one.
The only thing I care about right at this moment is could BB have found a better return. I can understand some of the reasons for dealing JG the way he did to San Fran but the return doesn't satisfy me.
Bottom line on this whole thing is that the timing didn't work out. JG is ready and TB isn't ready to go. As I said when they were getting offers last year for JG, it was a bad plan because Tom wasn't going anywhere and JG was ready and wanting to play. There was no way of keeping JG based on cost and his desire to play. Should have moved him last year at the draft to Cleveland regardless of how BB felt about the player or the destination. BB always says he is going to do what is best for the team, well he didn't in this case.
The only other option was to trade Brady and that is not an easy thing to do, although it would have been the BB way.
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Post by jmei on Jan 5, 2018 12:52:46 GMT -5
Belichick didn't maximize his return for Garoppolo, but having him around as an insurance policy added value, even if it that insurance policy didn't end up needing to be used. Belichick believed that there was a real risk that Brady wasn't as healthy or productive as he's historically been. Even in retrospect (with Brady being either MVP winner or runner-up), I'm not sure if he was wrong about that.
Brady is still a very good quarterback and had an excellent season as a whole, but he's noticeably lost arm strength/accuracy and become more jittery in the pocket over the course of the season in each of the last few years and especially this year. Having a first round bye helps mitigate that by giving him an extra week of rest, but he only gets one week off before the AFC championship game.
He's still better than Garoppolo, but the gap has narrowed. I'd still stick with Brady, but I don't think the idea of moving on from Brady in favor of Garoppolo was or is a crazy idea strictly from an on-field perspective.
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