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Post by rjp313jr on Jan 9, 2018 9:10:59 GMT -5
I know the Pats are 13-3 but this isn’t the same team we are used to. This offense has struggled and the defense is vulnerable. I certainly expect them to win this weekend but the Titans could beat them or given them a game.
And if we do make it to the SB don’t overlook the Falcons. They are the team I’m more concerned about right now.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Jan 10, 2018 10:51:08 GMT -5
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Post by beasleyrockah on Jan 10, 2018 12:08:13 GMT -5
Mike Reiss mentioned the Patriots didn't like the way the Browns handled the process of their previous trade (Collins). Belichick likes to move quickly, and Cleveland wasn't capable of conducting business like that. Now, it certainly looks like Bill was foolish to leave such a haul on the table, but we should also remember the Browns are the same team that failed to execute the McCarron trade and then lied about it. It feels like Bill didn't respect their operation and stubbornly refused to work with them as a result, even if he could've maximized the return by dealing with their BS.
If it's true that Belichick decided to trade Jimmy the very same day he was dealt, his skepticism of the Browns being able to execute a deal in time may have actually been warranted...of course, the other argument would be that he should've engaged them earlier to avoid this type of deadline.
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Post by Coreno on Jan 13, 2018 19:45:00 GMT -5
Saints have to go through the #1 defense this weekend first. And now it looks like if they get past Minn tomorrow, they get to face the #2 defense outdoors next sunday. |
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jan 13, 2018 21:02:46 GMT -5
Dion making plays. He is so important. Keep it up big guy.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jan 13, 2018 22:47:34 GMT -5
The Titans couldn't even snap the ball without a false start or a sack in this game. What a tomato can game for the Patriots.
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Post by rjp313jr on Jan 14, 2018 8:23:58 GMT -5
James Harrison has been a gift. He’s fit so well and is fresh and motivated. Yes he plays limited snaps but he can apply pressure, set the edge and drop into coverage. They have been thin at his spot and getting him was huge. He dropped Henry last night early in the game at the Line with one arm while his other was being held by a blocker. He also drew a penalty on a long run early in the second half that killed the Titans drive. Thank you Pittsburg.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jan 14, 2018 11:22:01 GMT -5
Dion making plays. He is so important. Keep it up big guy. Dion Lewis ended up having 141 yards from scrimmage in this game. Just ridiculous. He was their best player outside of Brady last night. |
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jan 14, 2018 15:55:14 GMT -5
Jaguars up by two touchdowns with less than 5 minutes to go.
Lol I know Borttles is having a good game and all but the Patriots should beat the Jag's.
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Post by rjp313jr on Jan 14, 2018 19:43:30 GMT -5
Dion making plays. He is so important. Keep it up big guy. Dion Lewis ended up having 141 yards from scrimmage in this game. Just ridiculous. He was their best player outside of Brady last night. Maybe... Hard to say it was a team dominated effort... Dola and Gronk were arguably as good. And don’t look now Gilmore is our best corner |
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Post by Don Caballero on Jan 14, 2018 20:12:45 GMT -5
I know this Saints/Panthers game is only a 5 point game, but I don't see any team beating the Saints in the playoffs. Goddamn it took a legend play to make this false. I can't believe what I just watched. |
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Post by jimed14 on Jan 14, 2018 20:36:20 GMT -5
I know this Saints/Panthers game is only a 5 point game, but I don't see any team beating the Saints in the playoffs. Goddamn it took a legend play to make this false. I can't believe what I just watched. Yeah, there's no way Philly is winning so they would have been in the Super Bowl if not for that ridiculous play. |
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Post by voiceofreason on Jan 15, 2018 5:10:56 GMT -5
Two very entertaining games and one totally crazy finish. The Vikings will be tough to beat at home, their tough.
Pats facing the Jaguars is very similar to facing the Titans except the Jags have a much better D. The Pats D can focus on stopping the run and containing Bortles just like the Titans game. On offense I think they will need another great game out of Lewis as that D has some great cover Cbs and can get pressure with 4 rushing the Qb. For the Pats to win another SB they will have to beat two very good defenses.
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Post by mattpicard on Jan 15, 2018 11:03:23 GMT -5
Will be very interesting to see how the Jags cover the Pats offense. Do they go with a conventional Ramsey on Cooks, Bouye on Hogan, Jack + strong safety on Gronk approach? Or do they try to get a little craftier, and attempt to shut down Gronk with Ramsey, Bouye on Cooks, and get someone else on Hogan? Will they pay special attention to Amendola in the slot, with one of their top CBs, or just let their slot CB cover him?
It'll also be imperative to minimize the pressure on Brady -- really hoping Waddle is able to recover enough be effective at right tackle. Flemming has been perfectly serviceable so far (and by some grades better than Waddle), but Jacksonville will be a pretty tough challenge. Wonder if we'll see a lot of Dwayne Allen helping block on the right side.
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Post by voiceofreason on Jan 15, 2018 11:49:51 GMT -5
Reportedly the only real weakness for the Jags defensively is between the tackles rushing so that could also mean more snaps for Allen. I like the idea of having him staying in to pass block also as that should play into the play action passing game. I remember watching the Giants getting all that pressure in the SB and was surprised the Pats didn't make adjustments like keeping a TE in or even chipping guys at the line.
It's a good question on how the Jags will try to play Gronk, it is a DCs nightmare in trying to stop him. I think the speed of Cooks and Hogan make it difficult to not cover them with the CBs, if they used other guys they would need more help over the top. That would lead to more single coverage on Gronk, also Gronks size and catch radius kind of negates the covering ability of a CB. Ramsey is 6'1" so maybe that is an option. Either way I expect Gronk to have a big day.
I think the Pats will try to run the ball up the middle and focus on getting the ball to Lewis and Gronk with a lot of play action. I would also hope to see more no huddle to try and tire out the Jags front 4 but the only way that works is if they are successful moving the ball. If Tom gets off to a slow start, as he has been lately, and the Pats can't move the ball early the Jags could make it a long day. If the good Blake Bortles shows up like he did against Pitt. this could go badly, not to be negative but this is the type of team that can beat the Pats. But if Bortles resorts back to being marginal at best the Pats will win going away.
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Post by jimed14 on Jan 15, 2018 12:07:19 GMT -5
It's hard to get a read on the Jags after being so good defensively and bad offensively, then winning 45-42 against Pittsburgh.
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Post by voiceofreason on Jan 15, 2018 12:20:12 GMT -5
It's hard to get a read on the Jags after being so good defensively and bad offensively, then winning 45-42 against Pittsburgh. True but those 2 TDs on 4th downs were miracle plays. In both cases the D was very good and the Steelers were still able to catch the ball. |
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Post by mattpicard on Jan 15, 2018 12:39:16 GMT -5
I'm not too worried about the Jags offense. They're containable from a passing standpoint, and they'll run the ball a bunch. The Pats run defense has been fine, and hopefully they can hold down the interior against Fournette. Malcolm Brown's been good at that, and I wonder if we'll see Branch active for the game.
The defense, however, could very much seal off key pieces of our offense entirely. Whoever they let slip will be in line for a big day. Dion, Amendola, and Gronk are the easy calls, and how Jacksonville works to secure them without opening up others will be fascinating.
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Post by Don Caballero on Jan 15, 2018 13:06:20 GMT -5
Yeah, there's no way Philly is winning so they would have been in the Super Bowl if not for that ridiculous play. That reminds me of one time I had a really spectacularly hot friend who said to me she used to look at me funny and that she really would have liked for us to have a little something, but then she had a girlfriend now so that ship was truly gone. I wonder if that's how the Saints DB on that play feels today lol. There's no greater punishment than being stupid. |
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jan 15, 2018 15:36:28 GMT -5
It's hard to get a read on the Jags after being so good defensively and bad offensively, then winning 45-42 against Pittsburgh. True but those 2 TDs on 4th downs were miracle plays. In both cases the D was very good and the Steelers were still able to catch the ball. Yeap one of those were a defensive touchdown, they also had 2 more drives where they scored off of turnovers. The Patriots will win this game if they minimize the turnovers. |
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Post by rjp313jr on Jan 16, 2018 9:16:26 GMT -5
The jags real weakness on defense is covering running backs out of the backfield and that happens to be a Patriots strength. I believe they are also beatable over the middle which is-also a Strength between Dola and Gronk... the defense is awesome and they can cause a lot of issues but they should not be able to shut down the Pats. I don’t expect it to be easy in any ways shape or form and i expect a slow start while they see what’s going on and adjust.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jan 16, 2018 13:14:23 GMT -5
The Vikings will be tough to beat at home Wow, hadn't even thought about that. Closest things to "home" games have been the L.A. Rams losing XIV at the Rose Bowl in 1980 and San Francisco winning XIX at Stanford in 1985. Couple other California teams played in California but not super close (5+ hour drives). |
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Post by jimed14 on Jan 16, 2018 13:19:08 GMT -5
I imagine there won't be a ton of tickets available for the home fans. Are there ever?
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Post by voiceofreason on Jan 16, 2018 14:07:10 GMT -5
The AFC team will get the same number of tickets as the NFC team, 17.5% each, to allocate the way they see fit. Some go to the players, coaches, execs etc. and also to season ticket holders visa lottery. The home team also gets an extra 5%. After that it will be up to the fans who are willing to pay the secondary market prices. So given that if the Vikings are in it their fans will most likely buy up many of those so it could be a little bit of a home field advantage but not that much.
Then about 35% of the tickets get evenly distributed to every other team with the remaining 25% going to the NFL.
If it is the Vikings they will get a small advantage.
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Post by voiceofreason on Jan 16, 2018 14:12:53 GMT -5
Actually those percentages changed a little this yr but it is close.
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