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Post by bosox on Oct 6, 2017 15:58:32 GMT -5
Maybe Devers will hit a 7 run HR here. Might just as well given him the day off.
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Post by aznpopsical on Oct 6, 2017 15:59:41 GMT -5
ERod to start the inning is the third laughable decision in two days and I hope to god it signals the end of the JF era in Boston. The team continually wins despite him, Jonny Gomes be danged. [br But then we will lose our punching bag
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Post by trajanacc on Oct 6, 2017 16:03:26 GMT -5
What's been worse the last two postseasons, our starting pitching, or our hitting? I'm honestly not sure of the answer.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Oct 6, 2017 16:03:59 GMT -5
ERod to start the inning is the third laughable decision in two days and I hope to god it signals the end of the JF era in Boston. The team continually wins despite him, Jonny Gomes be danged. [br But then we will lose our punching bag Welcome new member. I'm perfectly okay with that.
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Post by Coreno on Oct 6, 2017 16:04:47 GMT -5
Can we make a deal with the Astros? Just leave Alex Cora in Boston when they head for Cleveland.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Oct 6, 2017 16:06:56 GMT -5
Can we make a deal with the Astros? Just leave Alex Cora in Boston when they head for Cleveland. Well they could hire Cora on their own right. Usually teams let coaches move on to move up the food chain.
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ghostofyaz
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Who the hell is between Youk and Trot??
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Post by ghostofyaz on Oct 6, 2017 16:07:16 GMT -5
Barring an unexpected turnaround here, and after the emotions of this series settle, does Dombrowski bring Farrell back next year?
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Oct 6, 2017 16:07:50 GMT -5
X now 0 for 8. picked a bad time to cool off.
Add. Nice defense.
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Post by cutz on Oct 6, 2017 16:09:51 GMT -5
X now 0 for 8. picked a bad time to cool off. Like to see him re-work his swing completley over the winter. that CHOP swing has got to go. He's a big kid with good bat spped. No need for him to be swinging the bat the way he does.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Oct 6, 2017 16:10:06 GMT -5
Barring an unexpected turnaround here, and after the emotions of this series settle, does Dombrowski bring Farrell back next year? No f-ing way. This team needs more than a managerial change however.
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Post by aznpopsical on Oct 6, 2017 16:10:24 GMT -5
[br But then we will lose our punching bag Welcome new member. I'm perfectly okay with that. Thanks. I've been a close follower of the site for a while now, just never really felt compelled to write anything until now, for whatever reason. Look, I think Farrell needs to go for sure, cuz he's obviously a subpar in game manager, but I also think front office needs to take a lot of the blame here also. The thing that frustrates me the most is our hitting philosophy, but that takes too many words to dive into.
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Post by Guidas on Oct 6, 2017 16:16:29 GMT -5
Was this the first or second year of the three year window? I forget.
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Post by aznpopsical on Oct 6, 2017 16:18:52 GMT -5
X now 0 for 8. picked a bad time to cool off. Like to see him re-work his swing completley over the winter. that CHOP swing has got to go. He's a big kid with good bat spped. No need for him to be swinging the bat the way he does. The swing he had in the year he really struggled was a powerful one. Maybe he should think about going back to that, and stop this slap hitting debacle. It feels like everything is on the ground when he makes contact now.
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Post by kman22 on Oct 6, 2017 16:19:37 GMT -5
This is painful. Playoff losses feel so much longer.
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Post by wcp3 on Oct 6, 2017 16:19:45 GMT -5
Bold strategy by the Red Sox to not show up to the playoffs for the second year in a row.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Oct 6, 2017 16:20:53 GMT -5
Welcome new member. I'm perfectly okay with that. Thanks. I've been a close follower of the site for a while now, just never really felt compelled to write anything until now, for whatever reason. Look, I think Farrell needs to go for sure, cuz he's obviously a subpar in game manager, but I also think front office needs to take a lot of the blame here also. The thing that frustrates me the most is our hitting philosophy, but that takes too many words to dive into. Yeah I think that the people making the baseball decisions need to seriously be questioned too. The front office of the Sox has put the Sox in baseball purgatory basically. Good enough to compete but not good enough to win yet. That is a very bad place to be. No good draft picks and no payroll space to work with either.
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Oct 6, 2017 16:22:50 GMT -5
Maddux ain't the answer. Sanchez homered again Kluber.
Things going from inconsolable to I really can't take it anymore
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Oct 6, 2017 16:31:57 GMT -5
I am as frustrated as anyone else, but i am not into this narrative about whether this team is good enough to win a world series. I think they are. The offense has been a problem all year. The pitching has been good enough all year. We are 2 time AL east division champs.
It is dangerous to look at this series and last year's and make any of these proclamations. That is a total of 5 games. If anything, there has been some really bad luck, this year in particular. The Astros are killing it. Do we want to take inventory when the probable worst case scenario is happening.
We definitely need more power this off season. That has to be addressed. How, is anyone's guess.
Add: I think a new manager is in order. If for nothing else, a change is probably needed to alter the clubhouse dynamic.
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Post by jimed14 on Oct 6, 2017 16:34:01 GMT -5
Can't get in the way of the prophecy. Yeah, they had a great strategy at building this team. Tank for 10 years and gather 10 top 5 picks.
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Post by jimed14 on Oct 6, 2017 16:34:41 GMT -5
Maybe Devers will hit a 7 run HR here. Might just as well given him the day off. The tying run is up in only 6 batters.
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Post by James Dunne on Oct 6, 2017 16:35:49 GMT -5
Can we make a deal with the Astros? Just leave Alex Cora in Boston when they head for Cleveland. If they do move on from Farrell, Cora would be my top choice.
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Post by trajanacc on Oct 6, 2017 16:37:43 GMT -5
We are an elite pop-up hitting team, at least
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Post by jimed14 on Oct 6, 2017 16:38:20 GMT -5
Can we make a deal with the Astros? Just leave Alex Cora in Boston when they head for Cleveland. If they do move on from Farrell, Cora would be my top choice. It's also time to go back to committing to analytics. On an unrelated note, we should have a contest to see who can guess the number of surgeries the Red Sox players will have in the next few weeks.
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Post by swingingbunt on Oct 6, 2017 16:38:25 GMT -5
I am as frustrated as anyone else, but i am not into this narrative about whether this team is good enough to win a world series. I think they are. The offense has been a problem all year. The pitching has been good enough all year. We are 2 time AL east division champs. It is dangerous to look at this series and last year's and make any of these proclamations. That is a total of 5 games. If anything, there has been some really bad luck, this year in particular. The Astros are killing it. Do we want to take inventory when the probable worst case scenario is happening. We definitely need more power this off season. That has to be addressed. How, is anyone's guess. Add: I think a new manager is in order. If for nothing else, a change is probably needed to alter the clubhouse dynamic. I very much agree with this. Throwing the baby out with the bath water won't help, but changes need to be made.
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Post by danredhawk on Oct 6, 2017 16:40:02 GMT -5
Thanks. I've been a close follower of the site for a while now, just never really felt compelled to write anything until now, for whatever reason. Look, I think Farrell needs to go for sure, cuz he's obviously a subpar in game manager, but I also think front office needs to take a lot of the blame here also. The thing that frustrates me the most is our hitting philosophy, but that takes too many words to dive into. Yeah I think that the people making the baseball decisions need to seriously be questioned too. The front office of the Sox has put the Sox in baseball purgatory basically. Good enough to compete but not good enough to win yet. That is a very bad place to be. No good draft picks and no payroll space to work with either. And what should they have done differently? Everyone wanted so badly to hate DD the minute he arrived because of his reputation - he has been just fine and without Price/Sale/Pomeranz/Kimbrel they likely don't even have to worry about making the playoffs and flaming out the last two seasons. We could easily be looking at 4-straight last-place Farrell/Cherington finishes. It is specifically his moves that have overcome Farrell's coaching and managing ineptitude and put the Sox in a position to win two divisions. The simple fact that you have to give away prospects to get stars seemingly ruins some SoxProspects posters' lives no matter the outcome... The one trade you could argue he clearly lost was the Milwaukee trade, but Thornburg's injury was an unfortunate fluke and EVERYONE hated Shaw at the end of last year and NO ONE wanted him to be the regular at 3B. Saying otherwise is disingenuous and not true. I was here to read all your posts. I would have loved to have seen Encarnacion sign here (or picked up JD Martinez for a AZ type return) - but that was clearly an ownership directive NOT to go over the luxury tax. Now it has reset and he can spend. Sale has been great. Pomeranz has been great. Kimbrel has been great. Price has been good (but not elite, so people hate him). Smith has been good since healthy. Moreland was a good signing. Fister was a great value pick-up. What hurt this team, in addition to the coaching and injury, was the B's not living up to offensive expectations. There is nothing the front-office could have done about that. If the team was hurt by any front office moves this season, it was Cherington hold-overs (Sandoval especially) killing the team's ability to spend in FA or at the deadline or not performing (Porcello, Ramirez). It wasn't DD who signed a fat guy who was never any good to begin with or ruined Blake Swihart, etc. Dombrowski has been just fine. He's vilified here simply because he works with a focus on the MLB club and not for the mission statement of this website...
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