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Post by texs31 on Oct 5, 2017 15:01:23 GMT -5
Bruins open up the 2017-18 season tonight a bit short-handed. Not only is Krug not going to be available but Bergeron and Backes are also out. Based on an optional morning skate, here's the projected lineup:
Marchand/Spooner/Bjork DeBrusk/Krejci/Pastrnak Beleskey/Kuraly/Vatrano Schaller/Nash/Acciari
Chara/Carlo Miller/McAvoy Grzelcyk/McQuaid
Rask
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Post by texs31 on Oct 6, 2017 8:00:11 GMT -5
Bruins had to hold on 4-3 (after leading 3-1 with under 4 mins left). Krejci had 3 assists and Marchand had a goal. But it was the youth that shined:
DeBrusk - 1 goal, 1 assist McAvoy - 1g, 1a Bjork - 1a Pastrnak - 1g Carlo - 1a
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Post by texs31 on Oct 12, 2017 7:45:43 GMT -5
Haven't seen much of the 3 games so far but losing to a Colorado team whose star (or one of them) doesn't want to be playing for is NOT good.
Hopefully, getting Patrice back will help.
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Post by soxfansince67 on Nov 13, 2017 11:38:56 GMT -5
Getting slammed by injuries - mental mistakes on D, poor execution on power plays - could be a long season.
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Post by tonyc on Nov 13, 2017 12:22:28 GMT -5
This next 4 weeks are a key juncture in the next 5 years for the Bruins. I’ve been aware of it, and it’s been beautifully articulated in the Globe. With teams at only a 25% likelihood of moving into playoff contention if not there by Thanksgiving the pressure from Jacobs to make the playoffs may be there. Yet with the prospects not yet with the team, as well as those on the varsity at the fledgling stage, this is not the year to blow assets just to get in for a round or two. I don’t give too much of a damn about this year, but care about the next 8 deeply, and am quite nervous stupidity may reign. Just hopeful Sweeny bought enough good will with last years playoff berth that he can hold firm and not do anything now or this year. The promise is great and in fact it speaks well to the talent level already with the team that they could play .500 with an injury level that most teams would be way into last place with.
The Crown Jewels not yet on the varsity- defensemen Lauzon, Zboril, Vaakanainen , Lindgren, O’Gara and forwards Cehlarik, JFK, Senyshyn, Gabrielle, Frederick,Studnika and Donato must be guarded. Note the haul Colorado finally netted from Duchene- thank goodness Sweeney resisted. If he can do so again, by the 2019 playoffs and years afterwards the Bruins will be serious cup contenders.
I also disagree with several writers who feel there is too much talent for the space and it must be “culled.” Yes eventually, but there are already more rookies than most teams have and the prospects have too much variability and not enough value to make the best decisions. I.e- had Zboril been dumped last year during his maturity issues phase, he would not have garnered the value he currently has. Look at how much more decisive and stronger on the puck Heinen is than a year ago. Cehlarik, when back from injury is already showing more speed and a 200 foot game than a year ago. Good things come to those who wait!
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Nov 13, 2017 14:18:54 GMT -5
I 100% agree you don't just move players you like because they struggle. At the same time we have too much talent, mostly at forward. I hate the keep them all and then move on when their value is dirt low strategy. Same way with prospects in Baseball. A good GM moves players at their peak of value if he doesn't see a long-term fit. It's the best way to maximize the value of your farm system. You simple just don't have even close to enough spots on the Bruins for all these guys. It also seems like a group with a bunch of good but not great prospects overall. The only other way is to just gut the Bruins of Vets and do a full rebuild. Not the half and half thing we are currently doing.
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Post by voiceofreason on Jan 4, 2018 18:01:12 GMT -5
Totally unacceptable that the Bruins are not getting more love here at SP! And I am as guilty as anyone if not more so since I am a huge B's fan. I remember when I was supposed to be sleeping that I would be listening to them on the radio via headphones under the blanket when Orr and Espo were the stars.
The Bruins are 16-3-2 over there last 21 games with a +33 goal differential, that's pretty good! Even more impressive is that they have done it while playing more rookies than any other team in the league.
While everyone is excited about the C's, with good reason, the Bruins arguably have an even brighter future. They are absolutely loaded with great young talent.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Jan 4, 2018 21:06:19 GMT -5
Was thinking the same thing. Where is Texas? Nice bright future!
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Post by voiceofreason on Jan 5, 2018 8:47:22 GMT -5
This next 4 weeks are a key juncture in the next 5 years for the Bruins. I’ve been aware of it, and it’s been beautifully articulated in the Globe. With teams at only a 25% likelihood of moving into playoff contention if not there by Thanksgiving the pressure from Jacobs to make the playoffs may be there. Yet with the prospects not yet with the team, as well as those on the varsity at the fledgling stage, this is not the year to blow assets just to get in for a round or two. I don’t give too much of a damn about this year, but care about the next 8 deeply, and am quite nervous stupidity may reign. Just hopeful Sweeny bought enough good will with last years playoff berth that he can hold firm and not do anything now or this year. The promise is great and in fact it speaks well to the talent level already with the team that they could play .500 with an injury level that most teams would be way into last place with. The Crown Jewels not yet on the varsity- defensemen Lauzon, Zboril, Vaakanainen , Lindgren, O’Gara and forwards Cehlarik, JFK, Senyshyn, Gabrielle, Frederick,Studnika and Donato must be guarded. Note the haul Colorado finally netted from Duchene- thank goodness Sweeney resisted. If he can do so again, by the 2019 playoffs and years afterwards the Bruins will be serious cup contenders. I also disagree with several writers who feel there is too much talent for the space and it must be “culled.” Yes eventually, but there are already more rookies than most teams have and the prospects have too much variability and not enough value to make the best decisions. I.e- had Zboril been dumped last year during his maturity issues phase, he would not have garnered the value he currently has. Look at how much more decisive and stronger on the puck Heinen is than a year ago. Cehlarik, when back from injury is already showing more speed and a 200 foot game than a year ago. Good things come to those who wait! The timing of this is impeccable given the B's went on their hot streak a few days later and all those young guys have really stepped up! Also take a look at what the P Bruins have been doing, they have been playing great and being led by the young prospects to. Add to that Donato who could win the Hobey Baker for Harvard and be in the B's lineup next year. With all these prospects who are developing really well it will give the B's the ability to do a deadline deal for a good veteran when the time comes, maybe not this year but hopefully next they will be ready to make a cup run. Just like the Celtics.
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Post by voiceofreason on Jan 21, 2018 5:07:41 GMT -5
During this Hot streak the Bruins went a month with only 3 losses, mid Nov to mid Dec. Now they have gone over a month without a single loss while going 12-0-4 in 16 games. And the icing on top is beating the Canadiens 3 times in the past week.
Consider that they are doing this while playing 5 to 6 rookies is astounding!!
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jan 24, 2018 16:41:35 GMT -5
Was in Montreal the week of the first game in that stretch for work and had to leave the day of the game. I'm pretty sure something similar happened the last time I was up there for work last year too. Awful timing. I'd love to catch a B's-Habs game at the Forum Bell Centre.
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Post by voiceofreason on Feb 7, 2018 10:10:00 GMT -5
Bruins are 26-4-4 since 11/15/17. Not too shabby for a very young team.
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Post by giltg on Feb 20, 2018 13:24:32 GMT -5
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Post by giltg on Feb 20, 2018 13:36:57 GMT -5
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Post by voiceofreason on Feb 25, 2018 9:39:07 GMT -5
Bruins just made the trade that puts them in to serious contention for the CUP. Nash for what they gave up is a good deal, IMO.
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Post by jodyreidnichols on Feb 25, 2018 10:39:27 GMT -5
Can anyone who watched the game talk me off the ledge that the fix was not in play last night?. I can't watch the last goal and see how interference was not called. People can debate to what extent until the cows come home but to say that wasn't goalie interference is beyond me. I think it leads a reasonable mind to the conclusion that some of these games just might be fixed. Can anyone even play the role of devil's advocate?
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Post by voiceofreason on Feb 25, 2018 11:19:34 GMT -5
Can anyone who watched the game talk me off the ledge that the fix was not in play last night?. I can't watch the last goal and see how interference was not called. People can debate to what extent until the cows come home but to say that wasn't goalie interference is beyond me. I think it leads a reasonable mind to the conclusion that some of these games just might be fixed. Can anyone even play the role of devil's advocate? Listening to the players and analysts talk about it they all said yes traditionally that is GI but for some reason or another the league has been calling it differently this year, something to do with could the goalie have still made the save and it being a judgement thing. Stupid for sure as that was GI. Players recognized that they won a game a month ago on a similar call that went their way so it has evened out. I know it is a dumb new way of looking at the rule but it should at least get you off that ledge and dismiss the idea pf the fix being in.
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Post by jodyreidnichols on Feb 25, 2018 13:50:02 GMT -5
Listening to the players and analysts talk about it they all said yes traditionally that is GI but for some reason or another the league has been calling it differently this year, something to do with could the goalie have still made the save and it being a judgement thing. Stupid for sure as that was GI. Players recognized that they won a game a month ago on a similar call that went their way so it has evened out. I know it is a dumb new way of looking at the rule but it should at least get you off that ledge and dismiss the idea of the fix being in. Thanks for the explanation. I think it's still crap but it is an explanation. I think it is a process, in that the rule was taken to an extreme and now they are over-reacting to the over-reaction. They need to better define it. If the "scoring" team on their own accord goes into the crease and causes contact either directly or indirectly to the goalie unless a referee is fairly certain it didn't impede the goalie then the goal should be waved off.
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Post by natesp4 on Feb 25, 2018 14:06:51 GMT -5
Quite a haul to give up for a rental, but they do get to dump Beleskey and get some value out of Spooner before he's gone in free agency. They definitely needed to push in the chips this season while Chara and Bergeron are still playing elite hockey.
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Post by rjp313jr on Apr 1, 2018 8:01:06 GMT -5
No Bruins fans here eh? What an incredible team they are. The Bergeron - Marchand - - Pasta line is insanely good and talented.
DeBrusk comes back and slots with Krejci and Donato and they look great.
The amount of offensive talent and youth on this squad is incredible. If you like hockey but haven’t been watching, this is your warning you are missing out big time. There has never been a Bruins team this skilled and fast before.
They are rolling and doing it without Chara, McAvoy and Rick Nash. When they come back watch out...
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Post by natesp4 on Apr 1, 2018 8:58:19 GMT -5
I'll second this. Not only are the stars playing amazing, but bottom 6 guys like Riley Nash and Schaller are having career years. The backup goalie is playing well enough to be a starter. For the second year in a row, they sign a college kid who immediately comes in and dominates. I'll also point out that everyone should watch what Bergeron is doing this year (and past years). He wins the Selke every year and I still think he's horrifically underrated. He can take any player in the league and completely shut them down, while still tossing up ~30 goals.
I think we have a quite a few fans here on the site who would love to post about the B's more often, but there's not a ton to say. We're best at over-analyzing things and complaining about things here. It's hard to over-analyze such a fast paced game and there's nothing to complain about with this team right now.
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Post by voiceofreason on Apr 1, 2018 10:24:05 GMT -5
Another reason to be optimistic going into the playoffs id how deep the team is. All year they have been able to roll out a 4th line that is very tough. Now add Dinato, Gionta, Wingles and Nash to that and the B's go 15 deep with forwards. It will make it tough to decide who is active but as the playoffs go on they can with stand injuries and stay fresh. Hopefully everyone comes back healthy and not at 75% and needing surgery when it is all over. It does look like Carlo is done for the year but they have the depth at D to handle that also.
They have a very good shot at winning the Cup!!
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Post by rjp313jr on Apr 1, 2018 11:11:26 GMT -5
Bergeron is the best... i wonder what his point totals would look like if he didn’t play for Julien most of his career.
Also, he had me thinking the other day and I almost started a thread on it. I don’t know if there’s a better Boston athlete in the last 30 years that is both great and an unbelievable role model. I can’t think of one thing bad or controversial or less than stellar to say about either his game or him as a person or as a leader. He’s absolutely unbelievable and grossly under appreciated. Maybe if he wins a second cup people will start talking about him in the same breath as Orr, Brady, Ortiz, Pedro, Bird and all the other Boston Legends. He’s that good.
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Post by rjp313jr on Apr 1, 2018 11:14:40 GMT -5
Another reason to be optimistic going into the playoffs id how deep the team is. All year they have been able to roll out a 4th line that is very tough. Now add Dinato, Gionta, Wingles and Nash to that and the B's go 15 deep with forwards. It will make it tough to decide who is active but as the playoffs go on they can with stand injuries and stay fresh. Hopefully everyone comes back healthy and not at 75% and needing surgery when it is all over. It does look like Carlo is done for the year but they have the depth at D to handle that also. They have a very good shot at winning the Cup!! I don’t know, It depends on which Carlo they were going to get. The guy of the last 3 weeks has been amazing and we absolutely don’t have anyone to replace him. Defense is the biggest weakness. They really could have used a top 4 guy at the deadline and didn’t get one. Carlo stepped up tho so it felt like they did. I don’t want to say they are screwed without him because they aren’t and it wasn’t really likely he’d play this way. So in that sense he’s replaceable. They have plenty of 5/6 guys but outside of Chara and McEvoy no really top 4. Unless you count Krug, but he only fits that mold offensively.
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Post by voiceofreason on Apr 4, 2018 9:05:29 GMT -5
Nash had been playing better but the addition of Holden looks like a smart move now as he has been playing very well lately also. I think with Chara, McAvoy, Krug, Holden, Miller, Grelcyk, and McQuaid they are good enough as long as they are healthy.
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