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Post by rjp313jr on May 7, 2018 18:58:42 GMT -5
16 isn’t
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Post by rjp313jr on May 7, 2018 18:59:44 GMT -5
Why can’t Rozier guard McConnell?
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on May 7, 2018 19:01:36 GMT -5
Why can’t Rozier guard McConnell? He's beaten him 5 times going to the rim. Have no idea why. |
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on May 7, 2018 19:18:38 GMT -5
Morris has been so bad tonight.
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Post by rjp313jr on May 7, 2018 19:22:27 GMT -5
For real Terry? He turned you like a turnstile again
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on May 7, 2018 19:22:44 GMT -5
Why can’t Rozier guard McConnell? He's beaten him 5 times going to the rim. Have no idea why. 6 times. Need to make a adjustment in the next game. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on May 7, 2018 19:24:42 GMT -5
I don't get why he's so close, back up play the drive. He's not a great shooter. It's like he trying to get steals. Needs to fix that.
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Post by wcp3 on May 7, 2018 19:25:01 GMT -5
Rozier should be embarrassed with his effort on D tonight. His road performances should put to bed the ridiculous trade Kyrie narrative.
Clean up the turnovers and close Philly out at home.
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Post by rjp313jr on May 7, 2018 19:26:33 GMT -5
At least Tatum got 20 again.
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Post by rjp313jr on May 7, 2018 19:26:56 GMT -5
I don't get why he's so close, back up play the drive. He's not a great shooter. It's like he trying to get steals. Needs to fix that. He’ll learn - just a bad night |
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Post by voiceofreason on May 7, 2018 19:58:25 GMT -5
Stevens will do his job and the C's will learn their lesson.
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Post by sarasoxer on May 8, 2018 7:26:49 GMT -5
Series was and is closer than 3-0 or 3-1. Max effort and performance can be sustained just so long. C's didn't need to win, dropped back the slightest of notches, understandably, and that was the difference.
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Post by swingingbunt on May 8, 2018 7:48:21 GMT -5
I stopped watching after they called a loose ball foul on Smart for getting landed on by Simmons. Seemed pretty obvious that the NBA wanted this series extended after that call. I was right.
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Post by jmei on May 8, 2018 9:04:17 GMT -5
Greg Monroe is a total sieve on defense, which is why he doesn’t get off the bench more often. Morris’ hero-ball tendencies reared their ugly head again. The Celtics as a team fell into the trap of not moving the ball and instead trying to take their guy one-on-one too often and too early in the shot clock. The Sixers did a good job of taking away the easy driving lanes, but the reaction needs to be crisper cuts and faster decisions, not putting your head down and getting stripped in the lane.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on May 8, 2018 10:41:44 GMT -5
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Post by umassgrad2005 on May 8, 2018 11:51:39 GMT -5
I'm almost glad we lost because the Celtics were getting too cocky and not running our offense. Tatum, Smart and Morris have been all hero ball the last two games. You can live with and even want Tatum playing that way, but Morris and Smart need to stop it. I don't even care if they take that many shots as long as it comes within the offense.
Even with Rozier playing McConnell wrong all night the D was still very good. That should be an easy fix. Terry play him to shoot. His impact is just look you, he drives to create and score. He's not Reddick, so back off 3-4 feet.
After Rozier averaged 7 assists per game through the first 9 games, he has 5 in the last two combined. Mainly because of hero ball and the lack of ball movement. He's just not touching the ball after he starts the offense. Heck Smart is making a point of bringing the ball up more and that's part of the problem. He just doesn't start of offense the way Rozier does. He'll jack up early shots or focus on getting the ball to someone like Morris on one side. Who we all know is most likely just going to shoot it. Instead of starting the offense at the top of the three point line. Ball movement creates lanes to drive, which leads to shooters getting open.
I'm not picking on Smart either, he's done some really good things in this series. Great D and overall he has shot the ball well. Rozier just runs the offense better and can create without turning it over. Something Smart really needs to work on. He tries to make so many hard passes that lead to turnovers.
So my game 5 game plan is get the ball in Roziers hands more to create, while getting a lot more shots for Horford and Brown.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on May 8, 2018 12:00:57 GMT -5
What drove me crazy was once we were down 16 with like 7-8 minutes to go they started calling a bunch of fouls on the Sixers. Games over lets even the fouls out. So you look at the boxscore and it's not that bad, but it really was. For second game in a row fouls were basically 2 to 1 untill the game was basically over. Philly was playing crazy physical too, it's not like they were playing like the Steve Nash Suns from years ago. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on May 8, 2018 12:07:27 GMT -5
What do the Duke fans think of Trevon Duval? He sounds like a Celtic guard. I wasn’t a big fan of him this year at Duke but he’s got a lot of talent. As a late first rounder you could do worse than to have him learn under Stevens for a couple years to see how he develops. I prefer Gary Trent because of his shooting. Duval just screams Celtic PG. He's like a mix of Rondo, Smart and Rozier. Everything you want minus shooting coming out of College. Nbadraft.net has Trent gone before the Celtics pick and that's not surprising shooters always rise on draft day. According to them he's also only an OK athlete, where Duval is a great athlete. I want my back up guards to be great defensive players because we're most likely going to lose one of Smart or Rozier. |
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Post by rjp313jr on May 8, 2018 12:13:55 GMT -5
I wasn’t a big fan of him this year at Duke but he’s got a lot of talent. As a late first rounder you could do worse than to have him learn under Stevens for a couple years to see how he develops. I prefer Gary Trent because of his shooting. Duval just screams Celtic PG. He's like a mix of Rondo, Smart and Rozier. Everything you want minus shooting coming out of College. Nbadraft.net has Trent gone before the Celtics pick and that's not surprising shooters always rise on draft day. According to them he's also only an OK athlete, where Duval is a great athlete. I want my back up guards to be great defensive players because we're most likely going to lose one of Smart or Rozier. Trent is not a very good athlete and he’s not a very good passer. His game in certainly limited. Duval is a terrible defensive player but he’s athletic so theoretically he doesn’t have to be. If I remember correctly, he got taken out of the starting lineup at one point, despite no other PGs on the roster, because he was so bad. Granted he’s young, and there were occasions he looked great and took over the scoring. I think he’d drive you crazy tho |
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Post by rjp313jr on May 8, 2018 12:15:29 GMT -5
I'm almost glad we lost because the Celtics were getting too cocky and not running our offense. Tatum, Smart and Morris have been all hero ball the last two games. You can live with and even want Tatum playing that way, but Morris and Smart need to stop it. I don't even care if they take that many shots as long as it comes within the offense. Even with Rozier playing McConnell wrong all night the D was still very good. That should be an easy fix. Terry play him to shoot. His impact is just look you, he drives to create and score. He's not Reddick, so back off 3-4 feet. After Rozier averaged 7 assists per game through the first 9 games, he has 5 in the last two combined. Mainly because of hero ball and the lack of ball movement. He's just not touching the ball after he starts the offense. Heck Smart is making a point of bringing the ball up more and that's part of the problem. He just doesn't start of offense the way Rozier does. He'll jack up early shots or focus on getting the ball to someone like Morris on one side. Who we all know is most likely just going to shoot it. Instead of starting the offense at the top of the three point line. Ball movement creates lanes to drive, which leads to shooters getting open. I'm not picking on Smart either, he's done some really good things in this series. Great D and overall he has shot the ball well. Rozier just runs the offense better and can create without turning it over. Something Smart really needs to work on. He tries to make so many hard passes that lead to turnovers. So my game 5 game plan is get the ball in Roziers hands more to create, while getting a lot more shots for Horford and Brown. Tatum only took 16 shots. No one else was doing anything either. I feel like he should have done more and I want him being aggressive and going ISO when things aren’t working elsewhere. Smart and Morris were bad tho |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on May 8, 2018 18:47:57 GMT -5
Duval just screams Celtic PG. He's like a mix of Rondo, Smart and Rozier. Everything you want minus shooting coming out of College. Nbadraft.net has Trent gone before the Celtics pick and that's not surprising shooters always rise on draft day. According to them he's also only an OK athlete, where Duval is a great athlete. I want my back up guards to be great defensive players because we're most likely going to lose one of Smart or Rozier. Trent is not a very good athlete and he’s not a very good passer. His game in certainly limited. Duval is a terrible defensive player but he’s athletic so theoretically he doesn’t have to be. If I remember correctly, he got taken out of the starting lineup at one point, despite no other PGs on the roster, because he was so bad. Granted he’s young, and there were occasions he looked great and took over the scoring. I think he’d drive you crazy tho Interesting nbadraft.net has Duval rated 8/10 on D, 9/10 as an athlete, with 8/10 in quickness, and 9/10 for size. He has a 6'9.5'' wingspan, which helps because he's only 6'2.5'' tall. He has all the tools to be great defensively. They did say he gambles too much for steals, which probably made him look like Rozier last night. Is he a willing defender? They basically say he has starting PG on a playoff team potential but he's very raw. Comparing him to Rondo if his shot doesn't improve, with an overall comp of Kris Dunn. Very good ceiling, very low floor. I'm ok with that if he's a willing worker with a good attitude. He's not playing next year. Going to be hard for anyone drafted to get minutes unless they are a big. So I'm ok going after raw high upside guys. Going to be a very interesting draft because there are soooo many freshman and underclassmen in this draft right now. Not sure what they are thinking. Heck Duval should most likely go back to College. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on May 8, 2018 18:55:54 GMT -5
I'm almost glad we lost because the Celtics were getting too cocky and not running our offense. Tatum, Smart and Morris have been all hero ball the last two games. You can live with and even want Tatum playing that way, but Morris and Smart need to stop it. I don't even care if they take that many shots as long as it comes within the offense. Even with Rozier playing McConnell wrong all night the D was still very good. That should be an easy fix. Terry play him to shoot. His impact is just look you, he drives to create and score. He's not Reddick, so back off 3-4 feet. After Rozier averaged 7 assists per game through the first 9 games, he has 5 in the last two combined. Mainly because of hero ball and the lack of ball movement. He's just not touching the ball after he starts the offense. Heck Smart is making a point of bringing the ball up more and that's part of the problem. He just doesn't start of offense the way Rozier does. He'll jack up early shots or focus on getting the ball to someone like Morris on one side. Who we all know is most likely just going to shoot it. Instead of starting the offense at the top of the three point line. Ball movement creates lanes to drive, which leads to shooters getting open. I'm not picking on Smart either, he's done some really good things in this series. Great D and overall he has shot the ball well. Rozier just runs the offense better and can create without turning it over. Something Smart really needs to work on. He tries to make so many hard passes that lead to turnovers. So my game 5 game plan is get the ball in Roziers hands more to create, while getting a lot more shots for Horford and Brown. Tatum only took 16 shots. No one else was doing anything either. I feel like he should have done more and I want him being aggressive and going ISO when things aren’t working elsewhere. Smart and Morris were bad tho I don't disagree about Tatum, just a lot of his shots came early in a position. It stopped the ball from moving. For him it's not a bad thing. He's been crazy good. Just you add him to Morris and Smart the result in almost no ball movement. |
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Post by rjp313jr on May 8, 2018 19:06:01 GMT -5
Trent is not a very good athlete and he’s not a very good passer. His game in certainly limited. Duval is a terrible defensive player but he’s athletic so theoretically he doesn’t have to be. If I remember correctly, he got taken out of the starting lineup at one point, despite no other PGs on the roster, because he was so bad. Granted he’s young, and there were occasions he looked great and took over the scoring. I think he’d drive you crazy tho Interesting nbadraft.net has Duval rated 8/10 on D, 9/10 as an athlete, with 8/10 in quickness, and 9/10 for size. He has a 6'9.5'' wingspan, which helps because he's only 6'2.5'' tall. He has all the tools to be great defensively. They did say he gambles too much for steals, which probably made him look like Rozier last night. Is he a willing defender? They basically say he has starting PG on a playoff team potential but he's very raw. Comparing him to Rondo if his shot doesn't improve, with an overall comp of Kris Dunn. Very good ceiling, very low floor. I'm ok with that if he's a willing worker with a good attitude. He's not playing next year. Going to be hard for anyone drafted to get minutes unless they are a big. So I'm ok going after raw high upside guys. Going to be a very interesting draft because there are soooo many freshman and underclassmen in this draft right now. Not sure what they are thinking. Heck Duval should most likely go back to College. I’m shocked at the defensive rating. The rest regarding potential seems right. I mean the guy absolutely would take over for stretches but disappeared a ton. I guess a rondo defender Comp makes sense. Lazy on ball jumping passing lanes... Sorry I’m rambling a bit thinking as I type. I know his 3 point percentage wasn’t good but I never cringed when he shot. I’d take him at the end of the first - no doubt it’s an upside play |
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Post by Don Caballero on May 9, 2018 12:17:32 GMT -5
So Larkin out for good now, which is a shame because it was a bullsh*t move by Redick that injured him. Take no more dirty play from the Sixers, end this tonight.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on May 9, 2018 18:28:24 GMT -5
How does Stevens not get a single vote for coach of the year?
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