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Anyone else really afraid of flying?
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Post by Don Caballero on Jan 11, 2018 20:07:51 GMT -5
Seriously, I feel like I'm a kid whenever I have a flight scheduled. I'm going out of town tomorrow by plane and it's literally an 1 hour trip that I've took many many times, and yet I frequently find myself incredibly nervous.
And I know it makes no sense, I know statistically there's no need to be afraid, I'm not claustrophobic, I'm not agoraphobic, I'm just a regular dude that likes sports, heavy metal, defending John Farrell, playing videogames and everything in between, but I really hate flying which ironically contradicts the core concepts of everything I just listed. Eagle Fly Free MY ASS, why am I like this?
Anyone has this? And feels like it's a childish thing which also hurts? lol I'm using this thread as a "support group" of sorts for anyone that's like me.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Jan 11, 2018 21:13:12 GMT -5
lol. in college my best friend was like that. Being besties and all, I used to give him $1 to buy an insurance policy for the flight with me as the beneficiary (back then, they had insurance machines at the airport before they came to the conclusion that it wasn't a good idea.
I'm pretty sure you've heard it a thousand times, keep facing your fears head on. You'll be fine.
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Post by jmei on Jan 11, 2018 22:27:10 GMT -5
I’ve had friends with similar fears. Going with a friend usually helps. Podcasts might help as well (drowns out ambient plane noise). Hang in there buddy.
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Post by Don Caballero on Jan 12, 2018 12:17:30 GMT -5
Thank you both for answering (: and it was a very smooth flight, it's weird but I'm always way more anxious in the day before than I am once I actually board the plane. I've been flying my whole life, but somewhere in the past 10 years I developed this insane fear. It's annoying.
I read somewhere that we truly need to face our fears head on, our amygdala is reprogrammed when we grab the bull by the horns and eventually the problem goes away by itself. If it's safe, we should always expose ourselves to the thing that scares us and I plan to do keep doing that.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Jan 13, 2018 5:36:02 GMT -5
I always found 'fears' to be interesting, at least on an introspective basis. Since I have a house under construction, I find myself irrationally facing my fear, heights. I say irrational because my house is a one story with a flat roof. Worst case if I fell of would be a broken leg or something relatively minor. Yet, I get lightheaded when I'm near the edge.
The other hand says that when I was a soldier in Vietnam, I commanded a five man unit that always made either hot or warm insertions. I can honestly say that fear didn't enter the picture no matter how hot the action was, either on the way in a helicopter or on the ground. On the other hand, when it was over and we were being extracted, the emotions hit me like a Mack truck.
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Post by natesp4 on Jan 13, 2018 9:48:57 GMT -5
Well you can always handle it with some advice from Mr. Pedroia and Mr. Cora. "Pedroia: I hate flying. That's my biggest thing. ... Alex Cora, who is one of my best friends and was with a couple of years ago, he used a line from "Rocky" on it and I still kind of live by it. I looked at him one time and I was scared to death. And he goes, "Hey man: If we die, we die." And I'm like, "That's a good point." blog.masslive.com/redsoxmonster/2010/03/dustin_pedroia_is_afraid_of_fl.html
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Post by voiceofreason on Jan 13, 2018 10:38:58 GMT -5
I always found 'fears' to be interesting, at least on an introspective basis. Since I have a house under construction, I find myself irrationally facing my fear, heights. I say irrational because my house is a one story with a flat roof. Worst case if I fell of would be a broken leg or something relatively minor. Yet, I get lightheaded when I'm near the edge. The other hand says that when I was a soldier in Vietnam, I commanded a five man unit that always made either hot or warm insertions. I can honestly say that fear didn't enter the picture no matter how hot the action was, either on the way in a helicopter or on the ground. On the other hand, when it was over and we were being extracted, the emotions hit me like a Mack truck. Thank you for your service! When watching military action I have often wondered how I would react under duress. Having never experienced it before how would one know when there is nothing in life that comes close. My hat is off to anyone who has. It sounds like you had a pretty good handle on it mentally. What was the emotion you felt during extraction?
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Post by Don Caballero on Jan 13, 2018 17:57:55 GMT -5
I always found 'fears' to be interesting, at least on an introspective basis. Since I have a house under construction, I find myself irrationally facing my fear, heights. I say irrational because my house is a one story with a flat roof. Worst case if I fell of would be a broken leg or something relatively minor. Yet, I get lightheaded when I'm near the edge. The other hand says that when I was a soldier in Vietnam, I commanded a five man unit that always made either hot or warm insertions. I can honestly say that fear didn't enter the picture no matter how hot the action was, either on the way in a helicopter or on the ground. On the other hand, when it was over and we were being extracted, the emotions hit me like a Mack truck. That's an awesome story man, thanks for sharing. I've always been fascinated by how fears aren't universal at all, like someone next to me might be completely relaxed on a plane and yet may dread spiders or some stuff like that. And I can't begin to imagine how your experience must have been, it's a kind of courage that is honestly inspiring.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Jan 14, 2018 12:37:38 GMT -5
I've been mulling over my reply relative to Vietnam and there's really no way to short answer since I think war situations are highly individual both in circumstance and mindset. lol, I've had friends tell me I should write a book about it, it's basically that long sooo...
A few comments though; I've never viewed myself as courageous. A better picture is an expression we had, "gung ho". I commanded a hand picked unit and we were all gung ho meaning we were looking for action. Our unit technically didn't exist and only the Brigade Commander knew what we were doing. Because of that, my unit didn't receive many individual medals but two things we did won unit ribbons for the 1st Infantry Division flag but they have other unit's names on them. That's all well and fine but my biggest accomplishment and biggest source of pride is that none of us were killed or wounded.
Going into and during the mission, the mission pretty much occupied my thoughts. Afterwards the emotions ranged depending on what happened. Either disappointment if nothing happened, major relief which can best be described by the expression "holy shit" or else exuberance if we successfully avenged something (if we took it as personal) which can best be described by the expression "yes, yes, yes".
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2018 14:33:04 GMT -5
I've been mulling over my reply relative to Vietnam and there's really no way to short answer since I think war situations are highly individual both in circumstance and mindset. lol, I've had friends tell me I should write a book about it, it's basically that long sooo... A few comments though; I've never viewed myself as courageous. A better picture is an expression we had, "gung ho". I commanded a hand picked unit and we were all gung ho meaning we were looking for action. Our unit technically didn't exist and only the Brigade Commander knew what we were doing. Because of that, my unit didn't receive many individual medals but two things we did won unit ribbons for the 1st Infantry Division flag but they have other unit's names on them. That's all well and fine but my biggest accomplishment and biggest source of pride is that none of us were killed or wounded. Going into and during the mission, the mission pretty much occupied my thoughts. Afterwards the emotions ranged depending on what happened. Either disappointment if nothing happened, major relief which can best be described by the expression "holy shit" or else exuberance if we successfully avenged something (if we took it as personal) which can best be described by the expression "yes, yes, yes". Thank you for your service.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Jan 15, 2018 1:43:25 GMT -5
Not a problem but as I said, mindset was different for each of us, particularly the mindset going into Vietnam, at the start. The movie Platoon does a great job of illustrating how combat participants changed over the course of their tours. I'd do it today if I thought I'd be useful (no way, lol, I haven't pulled a trigger on a weapon since I left Vietnam, haven't had to).
I grew up with weapons, my father bought me a Springfield 22 when I was 10 and spent far more time in a pool hall than a study hall. By the time I was drafted I owned 3 rifles and a revolver. I was young, immature and a bit stupid. I viewed my year in Vietnam as an all expenses paid hunting trip. Realistically, that was my mindset, not patriotism.
The Vietnam movie character I most relate to is Tom Berringer in Platoon. Nowhere near as badass though. Interestingly the whole chain of events that led me to the unit started when I threatened the Brigade Commander telling him he was going to need a body bag. That threat came in the heat of battle and was treated as such and the unit was formed shortly after.
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Post by rookie13 on Jan 15, 2018 9:31:52 GMT -5
I used to be, but a few years ago I really wanted to go home to watch a game at Fenway on my birthday. So I convinced myself that the fear was worth it. After take off, I was totally fine. Wasn't nervous coming back, and I've been fine since then.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Jan 16, 2018 1:01:39 GMT -5
Haha, you could also try parachuting once or twice. I guarantee you will have a newfound appreciation for being inside an airplane.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jan 16, 2018 12:58:19 GMT -5
Don, my wife always had anxiety on flights, and she got over it by educating herself about flying. Not that she was ignorant about it or anything, but among other things, she started reading www.askthepilot.com/ religiously and I think read a book by that same guy. The whole "knowledge is power" thing really worked, and now she's perfectly fine on flights while before she would crush my hand during takeoffs and turbulence. May not work for everyone, but was a bit outside-the-box and worked for her, so maybe try that. And perhaps www.askthepilot.com/baseball-and-flying/, in which the author complains about Farrell starting Gomes over Nava (I'm starting to wonder if he posts here...), might be a good starting point! Oh and avoid Air Canada. I just had a brutal week with that airline.
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Post by jimed14 on Jan 16, 2018 13:12:40 GMT -5
I'm more anxious about flying now that I'm older and started thinking about the excessive radiation in the body scanners, the toxic chemicals used to disinfect planes and the really bad air quality. I used to have about a half million frequent flier miles.
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Post by Don Caballero on Jan 17, 2018 7:31:10 GMT -5
Don, my wife always had anxiety on flights, and she got over it by educating herself about flying. Not that she was ignorant about it or anything, but among other things, she started reading www.askthepilot.com/ religiously and I think read a book by that same guy. The whole "knowledge is power" thing really worked, and now she's perfectly fine on flights while before she would crush my hand during takeoffs and turbulence. May not work for everyone, but was a bit outside-the-box and worked for her, so maybe try that. And perhaps www.askthepilot.com/baseball-and-flying/, in which the author complains about Farrell starting Gomes over Nava (I'm starting to wonder if he posts here...), might be a good starting point! Oh and avoid Air Canada. I just had a brutal week with that airline. That looks fantastic, thank you! I have the return flight later today and I have the afternoon free so I'll read a couple of pages on that website. I already love it because there's a Husker Du cover right at the front page, if a person that likes Husker Du is telling me that I'll be alright I just have to believe then. I'm more anxious about flying now that I'm older and started thinking about the excessive radiation in the body scanners, the toxic chemicals used to disinfect planes and the really bad air quality. I used to have about a half million frequent flier miles. Eh, can't be worse than the terrible food I had to eat yesterday.
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