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4/18 Gameday Thread: Morning evolution. Drive throw Kutter
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Post by iakovos11 on Apr 18, 2018 6:47:04 GMT -5
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Post by Addam603 on Apr 18, 2018 10:52:59 GMT -5
Rough game for Darwinzon. Doesn’t even make it out of the first inning. 3 walks, one hit batter, one hit, five earned, and one K.
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Post by James Dunne on Apr 18, 2018 11:02:55 GMT -5
On the one hand I hate to reduce a player to a type. But on the other, Bobby Dalbec has 18 strikeouts, 8 walks, 3 homers, 3 HBPs, 2 doubles, and 2 singles in his first 50 plate appearances.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Apr 18, 2018 11:45:32 GMT -5
Rough game for Darwinzon. Doesn’t even make it out of the first inning. 3 walks, one hit batter, one hit, five earned, and one K. Oof. FWIW, 30 pitches has been seen in the past as kind of a magic number at which point guys come out of games, so that's likely why they didn't let him finish the frame after the two walks - he was at 32. |
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Post by patford on Apr 18, 2018 11:48:43 GMT -5
Rough game for Darwinzon. Doesn’t even make it out of the first inning. 3 walks, one hit batter, one hit, five earned, and one K. Oof. FWIW, 30 pitches has been seen in the past as kind of a magic number at which point guys come out of games, so that's likely why they didn't let him finish the frame after the two walks - he was at 32. Mata also struggled with his control recently. Perhaps weather related ? We'll see. |
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Apr 18, 2018 11:54:26 GMT -5
Oof. FWIW, 30 pitches has been seen in the past as kind of a magic number at which point guys come out of games, so that's likely why they didn't let him finish the frame after the two walks - he was at 32. Mata also struggled with his control recently. Perhaps weather related ? We'll see. Ben Chomsky tweeted this morning that it was a beautiful day in Zamunda Salem for a game, so it's unlikely that's it. Currently says 64 degrees and sunny on Google. |
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Post by Addam603 on Apr 18, 2018 11:59:24 GMT -5
On the one hand I hate to reduce a player to a type. But on the other, Bobby Dalbec has 18 strikeouts, 8 walks, 3 homers, 3 HBPs, 2 doubles, and 2 singles in his first 50 plate appearances. Dalbec is currently batting .179 but has the team lead in OPS by over 50 points. That’s crazy. |
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Apr 18, 2018 12:03:55 GMT -5
On the one hand I hate to reduce a player to a type. But on the other, Bobby Dalbec has 18 strikeouts, 8 walks, 3 homers, 3 HBPs, 2 doubles, and 2 singles in his first 50 plate appearances. Dalbec is currently batting .179 but has the team lead in OPS by over 50 points. That’s crazy. That's also the Carolina League for you though. Dalbec having 3 HR there might as well be double that. |
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Post by James Dunne on Apr 18, 2018 12:07:50 GMT -5
On the one hand I hate to reduce a player to a type. But on the other, Bobby Dalbec has 18 strikeouts, 8 walks, 3 homers, 3 HBPs, 2 doubles, and 2 singles in his first 50 plate appearances. Dalbec is currently batting .179 but has the team lead in OPS by over 50 points. That’s crazy. Yep. He's got those three homers, and the rest of the team only has two. Only 36.5% of his plate appearances are balls in play (through 3 PA today). For reference's sake, Joey Gallo had 39.8% in play last year, and Aaron Judge was at 42.2%. |
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Post by Addam603 on Apr 18, 2018 12:21:54 GMT -5
Dalbec is currently batting .179 but has the team lead in OPS by over 50 points. That’s crazy. That's also the Carolina League for you though. Dalbec having 3 HR there might as well be double that. Make that 4. |
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Apr 18, 2018 14:51:07 GMT -5
There's nothing wrong with Dalbec types in your system. As long as he's getting on base and making *enough* contact, he could survive and make it up the system. The problem is him making enough contact.
It'd be cool and different for this team to develop a potential Adam Dunn type.
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Post by James Dunne on Apr 18, 2018 15:20:44 GMT -5
It'd be cool and different for this team to develop a potential Adam Dunn type. Of course it would. But check out what Dunn did in the minor leagues: www.baseball-reference.com/register/player.fcgi?id=dunn--001adaAs a 21-year old, Dunn was placed in Double-A after spending the previous season in Low A. He hit .334/.444/.671 between Double-A and Triple-A with a 19.4% K rate before forcing his way to the majors in July. Chris Davis, another guy who might fit that type, hit .317/.374/.594 in the minors and made it to the majors at 22. Of course, those guys can't/couldn't play defense at all, while Dalbec can. |
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Apr 18, 2018 15:42:56 GMT -5
It'd be cool and different for this team to develop a potential Adam Dunn type. Of course it would. But check out what Dunn did in the minor leagues: www.baseball-reference.com/register/player.fcgi?id=dunn--001adaAs a 21-year old, Dunn was placed in Double-A after spending the previous season in Low A. He hit .334/.444/.671 between Double-A and Triple-A with a 19.4% K rate before forcing his way to the majors in July. Chris Davis, another guy who might fit that type, hit .317/.374/.594 in the minors and made it to the majors at 22. Of course, those guys can't/couldn't play defense at all, while Dalbec can. Yeah the hope with me is that Dalbec can progress through the system and hit close to .250 at each level. At that point, he's built enough value to keep or trade. Adam Dunn and Chris Davis are crazy talented, that's for sure (especially when they young in their 20's, where there bat speed was about as as good as it was going to get). |
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Apr 18, 2018 15:50:24 GMT -5
Yeah, being Adam Dunn in High A does not portend the player will be Adam Dunn in the major leagues.
I was about to type something here about what the discussion would be if he were to carry his current line for the year, but that wouldn't make any sense. In 53 plate appearances, he has 4 HR, 9 BB, and 18 K. If he gets, say, 500 PA this year, that prorates out to 38 HR, 85 BB, and 170 strikeouts. More conservatively, if we use 450 PA, it's still 34 HR, 76 BB, 152 K. Those are just bonkers, unrealistic numbers (neutral connotation). Something's gonna have to give here, and it's more likely that it's the home runs than the K's.
It is fun to have a true TTO hitter in the system again though.
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Post by danr on Apr 18, 2018 18:36:36 GMT -5
The system is really hurting for power.
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Post by ramireja on Apr 18, 2018 23:19:20 GMT -5
Kutter Crawford continuing to rack up Ks: 5IP, 6H, 3ER, 1BB, 8K
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Apr 19, 2018 9:00:42 GMT -5
Kutter Crawford continuing to rack up Ks: 5IP, 6H, 3ER, 1BB, 8K Turns out the guy talking him up to me this spring knows his stuff, I guess. |
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