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Post by vermontsox1 on Jun 12, 2018 16:37:00 GMT -5
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Post by ramireja on Jun 12, 2018 17:20:44 GMT -5
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Post by DesignatedForAssignment on Jun 12, 2018 17:20:58 GMT -5
Kule
LHB, 1B will be 26 yo
I feelya
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Post by Addam603 on Jun 12, 2018 17:33:11 GMT -5
MLB has him at 11. BBA has him at 14. Seems like a pretty good deal for a PTBNL. Especially because Elias had no future on this team.
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Post by patford on Jun 12, 2018 17:48:48 GMT -5
MLB has him at 11. BBA has him at 14. Seems like a pretty good deal for a PTBNL. Especially because Elias had no future on this team. His history isn't that big of a red flag. Plagiarizing a philosophy paper at UCLA and a recreational drug suspension (and those two factors combined suggest pot to me) are less a concern than his age and lack of HR power. Still his OPS averages .888.
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Post by thegoodthebadthesox on Jun 12, 2018 17:51:45 GMT -5
Kule LHB, 1B will be 26 yo I feelya He didn't get drafted until he was 24, he missed two years at UCLA due to an injury and then a yearlong suspension for plagiarism (as a UCLA student, this was super frustrating because I missed out on seeing him as much as I wanted to). So while he's not the highest ceiling player in the world, I wouldn't look at his age as an indicator that he's just a minor league journeyman that's pretty much AAA fodder. He's a talented guy and, in my opinion, isn't that far off from Travis as a prospect, though that may be my UCLA bias.
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Post by greatscottcooper on Jun 12, 2018 18:09:58 GMT -5
If you ignore the age and just look at his developmental path it’s pretty impressive. The big knock is the lack of power, and his position. Still, this guy seems a little bit more intriguing than your prototypical PTBNL
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Post by radiohix on Jun 12, 2018 18:16:08 GMT -5
OH MY GOD!
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Post by maxwellsdemon on Jun 12, 2018 18:20:58 GMT -5
NOMAH!!!
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jun 12, 2018 18:30:42 GMT -5
Wow. This is a good get for Elias. The Sox probably got themselves a AAAA player who could actually be a useful piece off the bench.
A corner OF/1b who's LH who can hit and get on base is a very useful bench piece.
Especially in this day and age where the lineups are dotted with guys hitting .230. It's nice to have a good bat off the bench to pinch-hit and not be a black hole in the lineup when a regular is injured or needs a day off.
Again that's a scenario if he continues to develop. Either way I was expecting cash or some lottery ticket. This guy has a chance to help in a year or two.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jun 12, 2018 20:36:41 GMT -5
Yeah, might be a option off the bench versus Adam Lind. Nice to have competition there.
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Post by azblue on Jun 12, 2018 21:04:38 GMT -5
There's something about plagiarizing a philosophy paper that seems worse than plagiarism regarding almost any other subject.
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Post by James Dunne on Jun 12, 2018 21:26:37 GMT -5
In 924 minor league plate appearances he has 68 strikeouts, so that's neat.
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Post by lennsakata on Jun 12, 2018 21:28:51 GMT -5
That's way past Nomar, what is this guy doing?!?! How have his teammates not laughed him off the field?? So many jokes... Looks oddly like my dogs routine right before she crashes in her bed
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Post by bosox on Jun 12, 2018 21:48:01 GMT -5
That's way past Nomar, what is this guy doing?!?! How have his teammates not laughed him off the field?? So many jokes... Did he get those moves from Elaine Benes...
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jun 12, 2018 23:01:29 GMT -5
Yeah, might be a option off the bench versus Adam Lind. Nice to have competition there. Filia is in AA right now so I don't think he'd be competition for Lind for that role this season necessarily. But come next year and going forward I'd expect he'd be a legit bench option. It looks like the guy has a legit hit tool, takes a walk and doesn't strike out. He lacks power and he's old for his leagues he plays in which I think are kind of hitters' leagues so we'll have to see what those numbers look like when those things are factored out, but the BB/K skills and the ability to hit for average everywhere makes him very intriguing. I think this could be a real astute pickup for down the road. I'm pleasantly surprised the Sox could get a player like this for Elias who did next to nothing for the Red Sox.
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Post by Oregon Norm on Jun 13, 2018 0:26:06 GMT -5
I don't care if he moonwalks to the plate if he can hit.
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Post by awall on Jun 13, 2018 5:50:02 GMT -5
gimme the cash, please.
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Post by jimed14 on Jun 13, 2018 6:56:33 GMT -5
Yeah, might be a option off the bench versus Adam Lind. Nice to have competition there. Filia is in AA right now so I don't think he'd be competition for Lind for that role this season necessarily. But come next year and going forward I'd expect he'd be a legit bench option. It looks like the guy has a legit hit tool, takes a walk and doesn't strike out. He lacks power and he's old for his leagues he plays in which I think are kind of hitters' leagues so we'll have to see what those numbers look like when those things are factored out, but the BB/K skills and the ability to hit for average everywhere makes him very intriguing. I think this could be a real astute pickup for down the road. I'm pleasantly surprised the Sox could get a player like this for Elias who did next to nothing for the Red Sox. Well, he's batting .426/.508/.537 with a 6.3% k rate so he may not be in AA long.
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Post by James Dunne on Jun 13, 2018 7:38:49 GMT -5
There's a Youkilis-esque thing going on in the stance, where his hands are really far forward at the beginning but he's in good hitting position by the time the pitch is coming in. With guys like that I always wonder if pitchers will succeed in disrupting the timing mechanism when they can throw secondaries over the plate, but you never know until they do. Julio Franco's stance was absurd and he played in the majors until he was 78 years old. Perhaps more importantly, that's nearly a Chris Resop level of crotch grabbing.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jun 13, 2018 8:27:42 GMT -5
Filia is in AA right now so I don't think he'd be competition for Lind for that role this season necessarily. But come next year and going forward I'd expect he'd be a legit bench option. It looks like the guy has a legit hit tool, takes a walk and doesn't strike out. He lacks power and he's old for his leagues he plays in which I think are kind of hitters' leagues so we'll have to see what those numbers look like when those things are factored out, but the BB/K skills and the ability to hit for average everywhere makes him very intriguing. I think this could be a real astute pickup for down the road. I'm pleasantly surprised the Sox could get a player like this for Elias who did next to nothing for the Red Sox. Well, he's batting .426/.508/.537 with a 6.3% k rate so he may not be in AA long. Point well taken. What I was trying to get at is that Adam Lind IS a major league player coming off a strong season with the bat. The fact that he's in AAA doesn't make any less of a major league hitter in my mind. Eric Filia is an older minor leaguer on the way up, not an established player like Lind, so I would favor Lind this season if we need a bat, particularly with the possibility of having that 5th bench player in the post-season if they don't use 12 pitchers. Beyond this season, I'd look to Filia. But yes, it's not out of the realm of possibility that Filia could get first call over Lind by virtue of being able to play defense to go along with his promising bat.
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Post by patford on Jun 13, 2018 8:41:15 GMT -5
Given his performance, age and extreme confidence the Sox should aggressively promote him. See what he does at AAA and then give him a shot in MLB at the first opportunity. baseballcensus.com/2017/10/19/seattle-mariners-eric-filia-arizona-fall-league-shimmy-baseball-feature-interview/"UCLA baseball coach John Savage decided to reinstate Filia from academic suspension, the coach said something important that was buried as an afterthought at the end of a larger feature in the Daily Bruin. “This dude can hit,” Savage told the student paper at the time about Filia. “This isn’t ‘Oh, he’s got a good swing.’ No, this dude can hit. I think he’s one of the best hitters in college baseball and people are going to find out this year.' "
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Post by James Dunne on Jun 13, 2018 8:49:07 GMT -5
Given his performance, age and extreme confidence the Sox should aggressively promote him. See what he does at AAA and then give him a shot in MLB at the first opportunity. The best way to keep a bad farm system bad is to believe player development doesn't matter. The Red Sox have been extremely aggressive this year with placements: Houck, Scherff, Thomspon, Brannen, Netzer, Lozada, and to what end? None are closer to the majors than they otherwise would have been, at least one of them (Brannen) was straight-up overmatched and has seen his value decline, making him less of a trade option. I don't understand the urge. Who benefits from Filia being next in line for the MLB, ahead of Lind or Tavarez or whomever? He ends up clogging the 40-man when there are players who need to be added in December, and instead of getting consistent the consistent reps that he needs he gets like six PA's a week in the majors.
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Post by patford on Jun 13, 2018 8:54:57 GMT -5
Scouting report: Tool (PV/FV) Notes & Comments Hit (70/75) Flat out best prospect hit tool I’ve seen entering my fourth year of covering minor leaguers. Very unique stance and approach with remarkable penchant for contact; mechanics are a mix of Craig Counsell and Tony Batista, to say the least. Very, very wide open stance with low crouch before stride; hands extremely high — literally up and over the top of his head — but remarkably consistent to get into a hitting position at load with enough bat speed and top-level pitch recognition to track pitches deep and still fire off in time. Preternatural contact ability; absurd feel for putting the barrel on the ball and making solid line drive contact gap to gap with a predominantly back-up-the-middle orientation. Remarkable strike zone discipline and pitch recognition unique to my now three years of covering minor league baseball players. After seeing Eric Filia play a lot this summer, I toyed with grading him out as an 8 here, before ultimately deciding to temper it slightly accounting for smaller, but legitimate, concerns (hitter’s league in 2017, his age vs. the competition, etc.). Regardless, the hit tool is for real and will carry him everywhere he goes. baseballcensus.com/2018/01/24/seattle-mariners-eric-filia-scouting-report-baseball-player-evaluation-video-january-2018/
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Jun 13, 2018 8:55:44 GMT -5
One of the major benefits here is that he'll be in his prime with three options and no need to put him on the 40 man.
Like the little fire sign, "break glass in emergency."
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