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Post by 1toolplayer on Jul 10, 2019 12:37:39 GMT -5
Different sides, but does anyone else get flashes of Alex Bregman there? Stance, swing, finish...
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Post by 1toolplayer on Jul 10, 2019 12:38:47 GMT -5
Well, it's not a super detailed analysis, but it's something: IIRC Keith did not have Duran in his top 25 or so in his pre-season Red Sox rankings.
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Post by cdj on Jul 10, 2019 16:14:07 GMT -5
Well, it's not a super detailed analysis, but it's something: IIRC Keith did not have Duran in his top 25 or so in his pre-season Red Sox rankings. In fairness to him Hitting .400 for 2.5 months and getting up to AA in your first full season of pro ball will change some things I’m very excited to see how he finishes the year
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Post by 1toolplayer on Jul 11, 2019 12:23:12 GMT -5
IIRC Keith did not have Duran in his top 25 or so in his pre-season Red Sox rankings. In fairness to him Hitting .400 for 2.5 months and getting up to AA in your first full season of pro ball will change some things I’m very excited to see how he finishes the year That wasn't a criticism of Keith, more of an indication of how remarkable Duran's rise has been.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jul 11, 2019 12:25:25 GMT -5
In fairness to him Hitting .400 for 2.5 months and getting up to AA in your first full season of pro ball will change some things I’m very excited to see how he finishes the year That wasn't a criticism of Keith, more of an indication of how remarkable Duran's rise has been. Law not ranking Duran was odd at the time. He was an outlier in that sense. We had him at 16, BA (Alex) had him at 12, FG had him at 13, and MLB Pipeline had him at 10.
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Post by 1toolplayer on Jul 11, 2019 15:30:06 GMT -5
That wasn't a criticism of Keith, more of an indication of how remarkable Duran's rise has been. Law not ranking Duran was odd at the time. He was an outlier in that sense. We had him at 16, BA (Alex) had him at 12, FG had him at 13, and MLB Pipeline had him at 10. Yep, was def odd, which why it stuck out in my mind. My thinking is he hadn't seen much of him, or didn't get much from scouts and they/he overlooked his profile. Maybe I can ask him during his next klaw chat or even twitter.
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Post by kingstephanos on Jul 11, 2019 16:08:36 GMT -5
In the recent Eric Longenhagen and Kiley McDaniel podcast (~37:40), both were lower on Duran after their recent Futures Game look (BPs etc.). They see a 45 profile with a chance at becoming a role 5 player. Calling him a more of a "contact heavy tweener" than they were expecting - though Kiley liked his potential more than Darwinzon Hernandez, similar to Soxprospects. www.fangraphs.com/blogs/fangraphs-audio-presents-the-untitled-mcdongenhagen-project-ep-18/
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jul 11, 2019 17:32:55 GMT -5
In the recent Eric Longenhagen and Kiley McDaniel podcast (~37:40), both were lower on Duran after their recent Futures Game look (BPs etc.). They see a 45 profile with a chance at becoming a role 5 player. Calling him a more of a "contact heavy tweener" than they were expecting - though Kiley liked his potential more than Darwinzon Hernandez, similar to Soxprospects. www.fangraphs.com/blogs/fangraphs-audio-presents-the-untitled-mcdongenhagen-project-ep-18/We have him graded as a 45 as well, so that sounds right.
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Post by soxfan511 on Jul 11, 2019 21:14:04 GMT -5
In the recent Eric Longenhagen and Kiley McDaniel podcast (~37:40), both were lower on Duran after their recent Futures Game look (BPs etc.). They see a 45 profile with a chance at becoming a role 5 player. Calling him a more of a "contact heavy tweener" than they were expecting - though Kiley liked his potential more than Darwinzon Hernandez, similar to Soxprospects. www.fangraphs.com/blogs/fangraphs-audio-presents-the-untitled-mcdongenhagen-project-ep-18/I’ve been on the trade Duran bandwagon while his value is still high. I don’t think he will ever hit well enough in the majors, and his arm and fielding is very questionable.
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Post by soxfan511 on Jul 11, 2019 21:15:00 GMT -5
In the recent Eric Longenhagen and Kiley McDaniel podcast (~37:40), both were lower on Duran after their recent Futures Game look (BPs etc.). They see a 45 profile with a chance at becoming a role 5 player. Calling him a more of a "contact heavy tweener" than they were expecting - though Kiley liked his potential more than Darwinzon Hernandez, similar to Soxprospects. www.fangraphs.com/blogs/fangraphs-audio-presents-the-untitled-mcdongenhagen-project-ep-18/We have him graded as a 45 as well, so that sounds right. Good to know. Perfect trade bait. Jimenez has the much higher ceiling in my opinion as a center fielder
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Post by thegoodthebadthesox on Jul 11, 2019 21:30:13 GMT -5
We have him graded as a 45 as well, so that sounds right. Good to know. Perfect trade bait. Jimenez has the much higher ceiling in my opinion as a center fielder Bobby Dalbec sounds like perfect trade bait too. Nick Northcut has a much higher ceiling as a third baseman
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jul 11, 2019 21:57:27 GMT -5
We have him graded as a 45 as well, so that sounds right. Good to know. Perfect trade bait. Jimenez has the much higher ceiling in my opinion as a center fielder Jimenez is about 3-4 years away. Duran is maybe a year away. Proximity to the big leagues matters.
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Post by Addam603 on Jul 12, 2019 11:10:14 GMT -5
Good to know. Perfect trade bait. Jimenez has the much higher ceiling in my opinion as a center fielder Bobby Dalbec sounds like perfect trade bait too. Nick Northcut has a much higher ceiling as a third baseman In what world does Nick Northcut have a higher ceiling than Bobby Dalbec?
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Post by James Dunne on Jul 12, 2019 11:18:36 GMT -5
Bobby Dalbec sounds like perfect trade bait too. Nick Northcut has a much higher ceiling as a third baseman In what world does Nick Northcut have a higher ceiling than Bobby Dalbec? He's being saucy/jokey. Original poster's rationale for why they should trade Duran is, perhaps, not totally sound.
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Post by Guidas on Jul 12, 2019 12:07:23 GMT -5
With his wheels he could turn bunting for a base hit into an offensive weapon alone. Need development on pitch recognition and OF routes, but speed cannot be taught and if you're fast enough and can make decent contact you'll have a very nice career in MLB. See Hamilton, Billy.
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Post by kingstephanos on Jul 12, 2019 14:31:01 GMT -5
With his wheels he could turn bunting for a base hit into an offensive weapon alone. Need development on pitch recognition and OF routes, but speed cannot be taught and if you're fast enough and can make decent contact you'll have a very nice career in MLB. See Hamilton, Billy.Guidas, I hope for Duran's sake he turns out a little bit better than that. As Hamilton, to me, is one of the worst 'overhyped prospect' to major leaguer I have witnessed. We can bring up Delmon Young, Bubba Starling, and Brandon Woods etc. - however most of those players had a big league carrying tool. Speed is the least important of the prototypical "5-tools", imo. Because if you can't hit, you won't play for long... unless you're Eduardo Nuñez, of course.
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Post by Ryanod1 on Sept 9, 2019 0:08:50 GMT -5
Has anyone had a chance to see a fair amount of AB's from Duran after his move to Portland? He had yet another great season of course! However, he did hit in the .250s in Portland, and I was curious what people thought about it. Was his lower batting average due to bad luck, being semi overwhelmed by more advanced pitching, a little fatigued due to longer seasons etc? I know there's a million things it could be, but im sure something stood out in one way or another. The kid has been so damn impressive since we drafted him. Can't wait to see him running amok in a few years!
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Post by jimed14 on Sept 9, 2019 0:18:08 GMT -5
Has anyone had a chance to see a fair amount of AB's from Duran after his move to Portland? He had yet another great season of course! However, he did hit in the .250s in Portland, and I was curious what people thought about it. Was his lower batting average due to bad luck, being semi overwhelmed by more advanced pitching, a little fatigued due to longer seasons etc? I know there's a million things it could be, but im sure something stood out in one way or another. The kid has been so damn impressive since we drafted him. Can't wait to see him running amok in a few years! What I take away from it is that he's not a true talent .480 BABIP guy.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Sept 12, 2019 9:43:39 GMT -5
Baseball America @baseballamerica Our Players of the Year! AAA: Ty France, @padres AA: Dylan Carlson, @cardinals High-A: Jarren Duran, redsox Low-A: Wander Franco, @raysbaseball SS: Franklin Labour, @sfgiants Rookie: CJ Abrams, @padres DSL: Noelvi Marte, @mariners
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Sept 20, 2019 7:37:29 GMT -5
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Post by nomar on Sept 20, 2019 11:19:00 GMT -5
Has anyone had a chance to see a fair amount of AB's from Duran after his move to Portland? He had yet another great season of course! However, he did hit in the .250s in Portland, and I was curious what people thought about it. Was his lower batting average due to bad luck, being semi overwhelmed by more advanced pitching, a little fatigued due to longer seasons etc? I know there's a million things it could be, but im sure something stood out in one way or another. The kid has been so damn impressive since we drafted him. Can't wait to see him running amok in a few years! What I take away from it is that he's not a true talent .480 BABIP guy. .330 is fair enough (that's what he was in Portland). The problem is for a mostly opposite field slap hitter, he strikes out way too much. Really needs to figure out how to make more contact if he's not going to be hitting for any power.
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Post by fenwaydouble on Feb 26, 2020 9:18:01 GMT -5
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Feb 26, 2020 14:52:44 GMT -5
Big hopes for this young buck. Looked the part when I say him last year in double A (just a couple of games but was athletic as all hell) . Good to see him having a quick start to the spring.
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Post by brendan98 on Feb 26, 2020 16:50:24 GMT -5
Duran showed some oppo power in his first AB today.
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Post by GyIantosca on Feb 27, 2020 6:56:30 GMT -5
Looks like this kid is on his way.
Who says we have no prospects. If those pitchers start showing or taking the next steps this season watch out.
Just a side note I was always rooting for Okimey ( platoon first base) and before they signed Moreland I thought he have a chance as a lefty bat to play first. I hope he gets a chance to come up even for a few games. I never thought he got even a little sniff yet, when you look at some of the others who got a chance I thought the bat at least warranted it. Moreland gets hurt , I do like his signing because he has a knack to provide pitch hitting also.
I am telling you the future of this team is tied into that young pitching I really have a feeling they have something there.
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