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ericmvan
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Post by ericmvan on Jul 23, 2018 22:49:28 GMT -5
An interesting and viable option for a LHR addition: the Twin's Zach Duke, who's a FA.
Statcast says that his .371 BABIP is all crap luck. They have his xBA at .210 (instead of .284) and his xSLG at .276 (it's .331). Even without that, he's still getting lefties out: 2.83 xFIP, .326 BABIP, 0 HR, .241 / .279 / .293.
His jxwOBA (adjusted expected) is .259. The next guy on the list is Kirby Yates at .260.
He's given up 5 ER in his last 3 G and 2 IP, blowing up his ERA from 2.65 to 3.75 and driving his WAR down to 0.0, which could create a recency bias against him. One hard hit ball did all the damage (a two-out bases-clearing triple after two cheap hits and an IBB), and 2 of the runs that scored were inherited with 2 outs. (bRef's failure to adjust RA for inherited runners is inexcusable.)
He should cost little or nothing, and he'd probably be a more useful bullpen piece than Velazquez or Workman. He's not the stud Zach we want but he'd be another piece for Cora to mix and match expertly in the 7th.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Jul 24, 2018 2:38:34 GMT -5
Scratch Harvey from your wish lists...
Rob Bradford Verified account @bradfo 3h3 hours ago
Dombrowski on importance of any acquisition being able to fit into clubhouse culture: "It’s very important. Just like there are other guys right now that I’ve looked at and I’m not interested because of the things I know."
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Post by Guidas on Jul 24, 2018 8:29:05 GMT -5
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Jul 24, 2018 8:32:29 GMT -5
Thats what they said about Rodriguez shortly after he got the injury.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jul 24, 2018 8:35:32 GMT -5
Honestly, I'd be a bit surprised if he actually was able to start a post-season game for the Red Sox. I think the injury might be worse than some suspect. It was also interesting to read what BCSox posted. Grain of salt and all, but it's hard to imagine that he's simply going to come back, ramp up his innings and ready to be what he was prior to the injury. And with Wright not likely coming back, it really puts the onus on Pomeranz, which isn't exactly reassuring. Maybe if not Pomeranz, then maybe Johnson could start a Game 4 in the post-season or perhaps even a guy like Fiers if the Sox do acquire him. It's a shame. I'd love to see what E-Rod can be if fluky things could finally stop happening to him.
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Post by ortiz34 on Jul 24, 2018 9:04:04 GMT -5
@ken_Rosenthal Hearing similar, but with #RedSox, #Brewers also involved. Situation fluid and subject to change…
On Britton
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jul 24, 2018 10:52:17 GMT -5
I'd love for the Sox to get Britton, but now I'm wondering if the Sox would have to surrender at least one of Houck, Mata, Chavis, Groome, or Dalbec to come away with him given all the competition. I'd hate to see the Sox have to part with any of those five guys, but I'd think they'd have to in order to top Houston (who I think will wind up with him), NYY, or Milwaukee.
I'd rather they part with lesser prospects for Soria if it takes any of those guys to get Britton.
I still can't get Crasnick's scout's quote about the Sox going after "The Big Dogs". I'm sure they wanted guys like Ottavino, perhaps Wade Davis, and Treinen, but with Colorado and Oakland very much in it, that's not happening.
I can't imagine that Fernando Rodney would be a "Big Dog". Makes me wonder if the Sox are going after Iglesias from Cincinnati with the intent of pairing him with Kimbrel this season and then letting Kimbrel walk after the season. In that scenario I would think Houck and/or Mata would be a goner among others.
I'd rather the Sox go with Soria if Britton is too much to get and keep the system intact rather than doing what Cleveland did.
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Post by ortiz34 on Jul 24, 2018 11:54:44 GMT -5
@bobbymilone29 Morosi on MLB radio just said the Cubs leader on Britton
At least its not the Yankees or Astros
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Post by ramireja on Jul 24, 2018 12:07:13 GMT -5
@bobbymilone29 Morosi on MLB radio just said the Cubs leader on Britton At least its not the Yankees or Astros That said, wouldn't it be dreamy for the Yanks to spend some farm resources on a pure rental only to get shutout by James Paxton in the WC game.
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radiohix
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Post by radiohix on Jul 24, 2018 12:08:57 GMT -5
For the trade deadline I would like the Sox to get a healthy Rodriguez, a healthy Wright and Dustin Pedroia. Thanks.
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Post by ericmvan on Jul 24, 2018 12:10:54 GMT -5
The phrasing is Cora's off-the-cuff characterization of what E-Rod said to him an unknown time earlier. In Spanish. I don't think you can read anything into the specific word choice.
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Post by wildsox on Jul 24, 2018 12:24:26 GMT -5
I wonder what it would take if we expanded the deal to be Britton and Schoop? Apparently the O's are looking at moving Schoop as well. Or even a Brach and Schoop deal.
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Post by jimed14 on Jul 24, 2018 12:26:47 GMT -5
@bobbymilone29 Morosi on MLB radio just said the Cubs leader on Britton At least its not the Yankees or Astros That said, wouldn't it be dreamy for the Yanks to spend some farm resources on a pure rental only to get shutout by James Paxton in the WC game. I loved those games when the Red Sox played the Yankees when they had Miller, Chapman and Betances when he was good and none of them would pitch because they were losing.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Jul 24, 2018 12:42:41 GMT -5
Apparently, the Rockies are trying to trade for Britton, Gausman and Bundy.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jul 24, 2018 12:44:24 GMT -5
For the trade deadline I would like the Sox to get a healthy Rodriguez, a healthy Wright and Dustin Pedroia. Thanks. It's nice to wish for things but.....I wouldn't count on any of those three. The odds we see Pedroia back and healthy are practically nil, Wright's prognosis isn't too good, and all we can do is cross our fingers on E-Rod. Honestly the Sox need to proceed as if none of them are coming back. They'd be crazy not to.
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Post by vermontsox1 on Jul 24, 2018 13:01:15 GMT -5
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Post by James Dunne on Jul 24, 2018 13:04:54 GMT -5
I think it's more a snapshot of the current market value of Michael Chavis and Jay Groome, unfortunately.
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Post by grandsalami on Jul 24, 2018 13:24:43 GMT -5
I think it's more a snapshot of the current market value of Michael Chavis and Jay Groome, unfortunately. Or it’s just the marlins being the marlins.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Jul 24, 2018 13:43:53 GMT -5
Chris Cotillo Retweeted
Roch Kubatko Verified account @masnroch 11m11 minutes ago More Latest I'm hearing on #orioles Britton talks is that #astros & #yankees in the lead, #redsox close behind. They seem to be the top 3 at this hour. And yes, it's been changing. #cubs were up there as recently as Sunday. I still have Alabama No. 1, but it might be a different poll
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Post by klostrophobic on Jul 24, 2018 13:46:16 GMT -5
The Marlins don't want to trade for a guy coming off a PED suspension or one coming off TJS? Neither one looks like a top-150 prospect.
Would the Nationals trade Bryce Harper? Say they lose like three more games and look at the standings and find themselves in 7th place in the Wild Card. Not that he'd be a fit for the Red Sox necessarily, but I would look to move him for sure unless the Nationals turn it around really quickly over this next 5-6 games. The Indians could use some corner OF help for sure. Mariners too. I have no idea what 50 games of Bryce Harper is worth, but I imagine it would require a top-20 prospect or so, right?
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Post by brendan98 on Jul 24, 2018 16:06:50 GMT -5
Mike Minor had excellent numbers as a reliever for KC last year, but has been mediocre as a starter in Texas, if he goes back to the bullpen he might be a guy who could be a big piece down the stretch for a contender. I think he’d be relatively inexpensive trade wise, as he is still due around $3M this year, and $9.5M in both 2019 & 2020. Maybe the Sox could get the Rangers to eat a portion of what he is still owed this year, to stay under the Luxury Tax threshold. $9.5M for 2 years is pricey, but it’s better than what you’d have to pay Kelly on an extension, and the Sox need the lefty more. Thoughts?
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Post by dmaineah on Jul 24, 2018 16:06:56 GMT -5
The Marlins don't want to trade for a guy coming off a PED suspension or one coming off TJS? Neither one looks like a top-150 prospect. Would the Nationals trade Bryce Harper? Say they lose like three more games and look at the standings and find themselves in 7th place in the Wild Card. Not that he'd be a fit for the Red Sox necessarily, but I would look to move him for sure unless the Nationals turn it around really quickly over this next 5-6 games. The Indians could use some corner OF help for sure. Mariners too. I have no idea what 50 games of Bryce Harper is worth, but I imagine it would require a top-20 prospect or so, right? Why wouldn't he be a fit for the Sox?
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Post by jimed14 on Jul 24, 2018 16:07:50 GMT -5
The Marlins don't want to trade for a guy coming off a PED suspension or one coming off TJS? Neither one looks like a top-150 prospect. Would the Nationals trade Bryce Harper? Say they lose like three more games and look at the standings and find themselves in 7th place in the Wild Card. Not that he'd be a fit for the Red Sox necessarily, but I would look to move him for sure unless the Nationals turn it around really quickly over this next 5-6 games. The Indians could use some corner OF help for sure. Mariners too. I have no idea what 50 games of Bryce Harper is worth, but I imagine it would require a top-20 prospect or so, right? Why wouldn't he be a fit for the Sox? Because he's not better than JBJ.
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Post by dmaineah on Jul 24, 2018 16:09:37 GMT -5
Why wouldn't he be a fit for the Sox? Because he's not better than JBJ.Yes he is
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Post by fenwaythehardway on Jul 24, 2018 16:17:28 GMT -5
The Marlins don't want to trade for a guy coming off a PED suspension or one coming off TJS? Neither one looks like a top-150 prospect. Would the Nationals trade Bryce Harper? Say they lose like three more games and look at the standings and find themselves in 7th place in the Wild Card. Not that he'd be a fit for the Red Sox necessarily, but I would look to move him for sure unless the Nationals turn it around really quickly over this next 5-6 games. The Indians could use some corner OF help for sure. Mariners too. I have no idea what 50 games of Bryce Harper is worth, but I imagine it would require a top-20 prospect or so, right?I don't see why it would. I'm not one of the Bryce Harper Actually Sucks people or anything, but like... I don't think you can really say he's a better player than Manny Machado at this point. He's not worth more in a trade just because he hit some dingers when he was nine.
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