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Post by wildsox on Jul 30, 2018 16:23:36 GMT -5
So Astros get Osuna and the Mariners get Zach Duke. I hope DD doesn't do anything crazy.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jul 30, 2018 16:23:56 GMT -5
Wow Houston acquired the worst guy in the league perhaps. Roberto Osuna. Good. Houston is desperate and the Sox (this is my memory talking) have handled Osuna. When he comes into the game, I don't get that "Game Over" feeling.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jul 30, 2018 16:24:39 GMT -5
Wow Houston acquired the worst guy in the league perhaps. Roberto Osuna. Ken Giles headed back to Toronto Wow. Head Case for Head Case. At least Giles only beats himself up.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jul 30, 2018 16:27:33 GMT -5
Geez, I looked at Osuna's numbers. Didn't realize they were THAT good. If he wasn't who he was I'd have wished the Sox got him.
I guess the Sox treated Osuna in Toronto the way they treated Tom Henke when he was their closer. He was one of the best closers in the league but for some reason the Sox were able to get to him with some regularity as they did Osuna.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jul 30, 2018 16:27:36 GMT -5
Ken Giles headed back to Toronto Wow. Head Case for Head Case. At least Giles only beats himself up. What a trash move by Houston. Really that goes beyond trying to win at all costs. I really didn't have a real reason to hate Houston until now.
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Post by Addam603 on Jul 30, 2018 16:30:54 GMT -5
The move for Duke was pretty good for the Mariners. Only had to give up two prospects, their #28 and a non-top 30. In a crappy system, that’s not bad.
Yeah, he’s a 35 year old journeyman free agent to be, but rentals aren’t costing a lot.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jul 30, 2018 16:31:21 GMT -5
Wow. Head Case for Head Case. At least Giles only beats himself up. What a trash move by Houston. Really that goes beyond trying to win at all costs. I really didn't have a real reason to hate Houston until now. It worked with the Yankees for Chapman.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jul 30, 2018 16:32:01 GMT -5
The move for Duke was pretty good for the Mariners. Only had to give up two prospects, their #28 and a non-top 30. In a crappy system, that’s not bad. Guess the Sox aren't likely picking up a lefty specialist. Given the layout of their pen, they might not really need to.
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Post by Smittyw on Jul 30, 2018 16:35:00 GMT -5
Wow Houston acquired the worst guy in the league perhaps. Roberto Osuna. Gross. Glad we stayed far away from that.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jul 30, 2018 16:36:38 GMT -5
What a trash move by Houston. Really that goes beyond trying to win at all costs. I really didn't have a real reason to hate Houston until now. It worked with the Yankees for Chapman. I just can't believe it knowing that they probably know this as well. Just a horrible look for the Astros. Jays did well. Giles could rebound nicely for them.
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Post by tizzle on Jul 30, 2018 16:42:43 GMT -5
If he is so valuable, then why were the Yankees so willing to give him away? The Yankees could have stayed under the CBT if they kept Castro. He was maybe the most valuable piece in the Stanton trade and this guy named Torres. Have you ever heard of him? For the record, Castro wasn't a "valuable piece" in that trade. He was the salary Miami had to take back to offset a small portion of Stanton's contract. Miami didn't need him to be included for the deal to get done, New York did.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jul 30, 2018 16:50:00 GMT -5
Yankees could be on the verge of yet another trade too.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jul 30, 2018 16:54:10 GMT -5
Wow Houston acquired the worst guy in the league perhaps. Roberto Osuna. Ken Giles headed back to Toronto Crazy. Houston is sending back a PED prospect in the Osuna deal to complete it. This might be one of the most controversial trades in MLB history. So many questionable players going back from end to the other. Ken Giles looks like a saint in this deal.
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Post by tizzle on Jul 30, 2018 16:54:16 GMT -5
Yankees could be on the verge of yet another trade too. As long as it's not DeGrom, Syndergaard or Bumgarner, I'm not too concerned with deals they make. None of the avaliable starters would change the race, they really can't do anything to improve that bullpen and line-up wise they'd just be patching until Judge or Sanchez come back.
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Post by Addam603 on Jul 30, 2018 16:59:04 GMT -5
Am I the only one thinking the Astros gave up a lot? I understand Osuna is good (at baseball) and controllable, but they gave up a guy that’s been an elite reliever 3 of the past 5 years, a top ten prospect in their system, and a guy that was a highly regarded top ten prospect in their system before a PED suspension. Unless the market for Osuna was stronger than I thought, that’s a lot.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jul 30, 2018 17:02:55 GMT -5
Now there's talk of Bryce Harper trades.
Today went from dead to controversial and dead in this thread, to pumping out rumors and trades. What a crazy night so far.
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Post by ortiz34 on Jul 30, 2018 17:03:16 GMT -5
@ken_Rosenthal #Mariners get Adam Warren from #Yankees, sources tell me and @emilycwaldon.
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Post by jimed14 on Jul 30, 2018 17:12:36 GMT -5
Not Sox related, but at least it isn't the Yankees that are most heavily involved with Archer. Looks like the Rays want Sheffield for him. Would love for the Yankees to give him up for Archer, who doesn't worry me at all anymore.
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Post by jimed14 on Jul 30, 2018 17:14:51 GMT -5
Your reading to deep into that. Any competition for Dozier really knocks the Sox chances of landing him really. Just something to keep an eye on. That tweet says the opposite of what you're saying though.
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Post by soxfan50 on Jul 30, 2018 17:15:11 GMT -5
I'm new here.... first post. :-)
What are the chances that the Red Sox might be able to nab one of the Padres relief pitchers like Yates!?
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jul 30, 2018 17:15:23 GMT -5
Not Sox related, but at least it isn't the Yankees that are most heavily involved with Archer. Looks like the Rays want Sheffield for him. Would love for the Yankees to give him up for Archer, who doesn't worry me at all anymore. Yeah, Archer's got great stuff, but another right hander in that tiny bandbox is like Sony Gray 2.0 all over again. I think we might end up seeing Tyler Austin and Sheffield plus more in a Archer deal to New York. Just too much smoke Jim. Edit- The Adam Warren deal might be related to this Archer deal too. Don't know why the Yankees would give up a good reliever to playoff rival if it wasn't related.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jul 30, 2018 17:16:26 GMT -5
Any competition for Dozier really knocks the Sox chances of landing him really. Just something to keep an eye on. That tweet says the opposite of what you're saying though. Yeah you're probably right and now the Indians seem hot after Harper now, which is ironic.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jul 30, 2018 17:17:52 GMT -5
I'm new here.... first post. :-) What are the chances that the Red Sox might be able to nab one of the Padres relief pitchers like Yates!? Hard to tell buddy. Welcome to the board. Stay tuned until tomorrow. I'll probably tweet anything the second it's available.
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Post by jimed14 on Jul 30, 2018 17:19:41 GMT -5
What a trash move by Houston. Really that goes beyond trying to win at all costs. I really didn't have a real reason to hate Houston until now. It worked with the Yankees for Chapman. They'd sign Hitler, Stalin and Pol Pot too as long as their fans continue to overlook the terrible character. I never want anyone like that on the Red Sox for 5 minutes. Not ever.
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Post by jimed14 on Jul 30, 2018 17:23:31 GMT -5
@ken_Rosenthal #Mariners get Adam Warren from #Yankees, sources tell me and @emilycwaldon. Looks like they're getting more international money for him.
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