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Post by philsbosoxfan on Jul 27, 2018 20:37:18 GMT -5
Yankees postponed, now they will have a double header tomorrow with the 2nd game being a 7PM game.
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Jul 27, 2018 20:41:27 GMT -5
barnes looks like he's got cotton mouth when they get a close up of him.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Jul 27, 2018 20:46:24 GMT -5
Interesting Kimbrel decision. I'm guessing it's because he hasn't pitched in a while.
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Jul 27, 2018 20:48:59 GMT -5
Interesting Kimbrel decision. I'm guessing it's because he hasn't pitched in a while. i dont like it...there really isn't a reason to do it.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jul 27, 2018 21:01:10 GMT -5
Interesting Kimbrel decision. I'm guessing it's because he hasn't pitched in a while. i dont like it...there really isn't a reason to do it. You got to try and win. That might be the best reason.
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Post by rjp313jr on Jul 27, 2018 21:02:10 GMT -5
Here's more on why I'm not sold on Barnes. I'm going to continue to track how he does in the 8th inning or later with the score within a run on either side or tied. Here's what I found out... I looked up all the games Barnes pitched in the 8th inning or later with the score either tied or within 1 run on either side. There have been 12 of these games. In 8 of these 12 he was pitching with a 1 run lead (7 in the 8th inning and 1 in the 11th). He’s blown 3 of the 8 leads he’s pitched with in these situations. That’s a 37.5% blown lead rate when pitching with a one run lead in the 8th inning or later. In 2 of the games he was pitching behind a run in the 8th. Against the White Sox he gave up 2 ER in the inning to squander a chance at a comeback. Against Toronto he pitched a scoreless 8th, however he had come in in the 7th in a tie game w/ 2 outs and runners on and gave up a hit to go behind by that run. It’s an inherited runner, not his run and I’m just looking at the 8th inning numbers. That leaves 2 games where he was pitching tied in the 8th or later. The first game against Toronto he was scoreless to hold the lead, but made it interesting by walking the first 2 batters facing the bottom of the order. The second time against Minnesota last night and we all know what happened. So in total in his 12 appearance pitching in a 1 run game or tied in the 8th inning or later he’s thrown 11 innings, blown 3 of the 8 leads he’s been given, blew 1 of the 2 ties he’s been given and extended the deficit in 1 of his 2 games pitching behind a run. He’s given up 8 ER, struck out 20, walked 15 and given up 9 hits. That gives him an ERA of 6.55 and a WHIP of 2.18. Has a great K/9 rate of 16.36, but a putrid BB/9 or 12.27 and his H/9 is 7.36. Gave up runs in 5 of the 12 appearances or basically 42% of them. The teams he’s faced: TB twice – held both those leads MIA – blew the lead KC – held the lead NYY – blew the lead and put them behind TOR 3 times – held a tie, held a lead and held a 1 run deficit he was partly responsible for CWC – was behind and put them behind further SEA – blew the lead and put them behind DET – held lead MIN – couldn't hold a tie I’ll let you draw your own conclusions on how he did versus what qualify of opponent. you get another test case....will you look like a genius or a SSS cherry picker ? Neither it just adds to the sample. Those aren’t cherry picked it’s just a certain situation that I happen to care about with regards to the post season more than any other situations that he pitches in. I would like him to succeed.
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Post by Guidas on Jul 27, 2018 21:02:30 GMT -5
I want to know what’s happened to the offense since the All Star game. Just turgid.
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Post by p23w on Jul 27, 2018 21:02:53 GMT -5
Doh!
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jul 27, 2018 21:04:01 GMT -5
I want to know what’s happened to the offense since the All Star game. Just turgid. Mookie has dropped close to 20 points in his batting average since that time.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jul 27, 2018 21:13:49 GMT -5
You got to be kidding me Kimbrel.
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Post by p23w on Jul 27, 2018 21:13:53 GMT -5
Painful
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Post by fenwaythehardway on Jul 27, 2018 21:14:21 GMT -5
Not great, Craig.
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Post by wildsox on Jul 27, 2018 21:14:27 GMT -5
Back to Back nights with a meltdown
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Post by tizzle on Jul 27, 2018 21:14:34 GMT -5
Are our managers ever going to figure out how much worse Kimbrel is when used for anything but a 3 out Save?
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Post by Guidas on Jul 27, 2018 21:14:59 GMT -5
Not again. This is nauseating. Wasting two good starts in a row.
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Post by soxfansince67 on Jul 27, 2018 21:15:13 GMT -5
Wow...we are in the first team-wide slump in some time. Hope it doesn't last long...
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jul 27, 2018 21:15:32 GMT -5
Are our managers ever going to figure out how much worse Kimbrel is when used for anything but a 3 out Save? Kimbrel can't be walking guys there. Cora didn't do anything wrong here.
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Post by kevfc89 on Jul 27, 2018 21:16:39 GMT -5
looked like 2016 Kimbrel there
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Post by wildsox on Jul 27, 2018 21:17:16 GMT -5
Are our managers ever going to figure out how much worse Kimbrel is when used for anything but a 3 out Save? Kimbrel can't be walking guys there. Cora didn't do anything wrong here. Cant blame Cora. We don’t have the depth now that Kelly is useless
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jul 27, 2018 21:17:18 GMT -5
Why can't the Twins play the Yankees like this!
They're going to have 4 games that on 4 consecutive nights that should have gone into the win column. Instead it will be 3 agonizing losses and a stupid rainout.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jul 27, 2018 21:17:23 GMT -5
This bullpen in general might just not be good enough in the playoffs. Kimbrel is elite and he's laboring through 30 pitches a lot because he's walking people half of the time.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2018 21:17:54 GMT -5
When you walk the guy with zero home runs to face the guy with 19, these things happen.
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Post by tizzle on Jul 27, 2018 21:18:02 GMT -5
Are our managers ever going to figure out how much worse Kimbrel is when used for anything but a 3 out Save? Kimbrel can't be walking guys there. Cora didn't do anything wrong here. BS. He used Kimbrel in a situation he's not nearly as effective in, dumbly. Barnes looked great for 2 batters and Cora pulled him for no reason.
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Post by Guidas on Jul 27, 2018 21:18:14 GMT -5
Devers, Nunez and Leon. If I’m their pitcher I don’t even throw a strike until I see any of them not swing at a pitch.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jul 27, 2018 21:18:21 GMT -5
Not blaming Cora. Just bringing up the question - is Kimbrel actually capable of getting more than 3 outs in a game?
He's among the best at getting 3, but it usually takes him a lot of pitches to do it.
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