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Post by ortiz34 on Jul 31, 2018 16:35:03 GMT -5
@chriscotillo Red Sox announce Chris Sale to the 10-day DL with shoulder inflammation.
Ugh...
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Post by jimed14 on Jul 31, 2018 16:35:58 GMT -5
@chriscotillo Red Sox announce Chris Sale to the 10-day DL with shoulder inflammation. Ugh... Praying this is just for a 10 day rest.
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Post by ortiz34 on Jul 31, 2018 16:36:33 GMT -5
@chriscotillo Brandon Workman called up in Sale's place. Brian Johnson will start Thursday vs. Yankees.
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Post by radiohix on Jul 31, 2018 16:38:43 GMT -5
@chriscotillo Red Sox announce Chris Sale to the 10-day DL with shoulder inflammation. Ugh... Praying this is just for a 10 day rest. It seems that way
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Post by jimed14 on Jul 31, 2018 16:39:50 GMT -5
Praying this is just for a 10 day rest. It seems that way What's concerning is that it was right before the Yankees series so it is actually something. But hopefully they're just being extra cautious.
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Post by johnsilver52 on Jul 31, 2018 16:40:50 GMT -5
Praying this is just for a 10 day rest. It seems that way If it was, doubt of all the other 29 teams it would be vs the NYY right now.
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Post by radiohix on Jul 31, 2018 16:41:26 GMT -5
I was hoping that after the NY series we manufacture a 10 days DL stint for him to reset and keep him fresh for October.
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Post by radiohix on Jul 31, 2018 16:43:45 GMT -5
BTW, it seems like JA Happ is suffering from the same hand mouth desease that hit Thor and he'll be missing the series too.
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Post by awall on Jul 31, 2018 16:51:01 GMT -5
<reserves space on Tobin>
Is the draft jinx contagious?
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Post by chrisfromnc on Jul 31, 2018 17:01:34 GMT -5
Please let him be ok. I’ll clean up my room. I’ll never say bad words again. I’ll eat all my vegetables. Don’t let this injury have any significant impact on a really special season for this player and for this team.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2018 17:01:45 GMT -5
Hard to imagine winning the World Series without him. Hoping this is one of those “blessing in disguise” scenarios that gives him a little extra rest before the home stretch.
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Post by manfred on Jul 31, 2018 17:08:36 GMT -5
What the holy hell???
Why?
Why?
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jul 31, 2018 17:10:15 GMT -5
Ugh...why can't we have nice things?!
I hope it's as mild as they say it is. Something is definitely up. You don't voluntarily go on the DL and miss a Yankees start.
I say give him as much rest as he needs. Give him the whole month off. Let him ramp up in September and hopefully we see the Chris Sale of July in October.
Dombrowski's decision to pick up Eovaldi is looking smarter by the day. Scary to think that if he didn't the rotation would be Price/Porcello/Pomeranz/Johnson/Velazquez.
Now the Red Sox need Drew Pomeranz to be a contributor. He really needs to step up.
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Post by nomar on Jul 31, 2018 17:12:13 GMT -5
And we pray
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jul 31, 2018 17:20:14 GMT -5
Hard to imagine winning the World Series without him. Hoping this is one of those “blessing in disguise” scenarios that gives him a little extra rest before the home stretch. That's the one silver lining I was thinking of too. If he comes back completely healthy that time off could really preserve him for the post-season. At some point, if possible, it might do Price and Porcello some good to pull back the reigns too if the team can afford to. Price and Porcello have struggled in the post-season (as if we didn't know), but perhaps saving their arms from some wear and tear at some point can do them good. Who knows? Maybe if E-Rod can return, you get 4 starters will plenty of life in their arms for this season and your righty reliever acquisition in the playoffs becomes Eovaldi.
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Post by kingofthetrill on Jul 31, 2018 17:28:13 GMT -5
@chriscotillo Brandon Workman called up in Sale's place. Brian Johnson will start Thursday vs. Yankees. Looks like we have another scheduled loss day.
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Post by Smittyw on Jul 31, 2018 17:30:44 GMT -5
He must be afraid to face the Yankees. Soft!!
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Post by jimed14 on Jul 31, 2018 17:33:46 GMT -5
Hard to imagine winning the World Series without him. Hoping this is one of those “blessing in disguise” scenarios that gives him a little extra rest before the home stretch. That's the one silver lining I was thinking of too. If he comes back completely healthy that time off could really preserve him for the post-season. At some point, if possible, it might do Price and Porcello some good to pull back the reigns too if the team can afford to. Price and Porcello have struggled in the post-season (as if we didn't know), but perhaps saving their arms from some wear and tear at some point can do them good. Who knows? Maybe if E-Rod can return, you get 4 starters will plenty of life in their arms for this season and your righty reliever acquisition in the playoffs becomes Eovaldi. I doubt they'd even bother to make the DL stint retroactive so he can come back in 7 days instead of 10 if it's anything more than giving him a little extra rest. ERod is returning man. Stop talking about everyone being lost for the season every time there's an injury!
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Jul 31, 2018 17:45:41 GMT -5
They would not have rested him before the Yankees unless they had to. What a shame. Yankees winning 3 of 4 really would put them back in this race.
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Post by chrisfromnc on Jul 31, 2018 17:46:07 GMT -5
I just caught the last part of Chris Sale interview on the pregame show. He was naturally minimizing the injury. But he said the luxury of a six game lead and the depth of the team were contributing factors in putting him on the DL right now. He said “If push came to shove and the circumstances were different, I would be starting two days from now.” He also said, it wasn’t related to his mechanics. He indicated, “I’m a pitcher and sometimes we have to deal with this stuff”.
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Post by Oregon Norm on Jul 31, 2018 17:51:45 GMT -5
The front office needs to hire him to do PR once his playing days are over. This is a "strategic" injury I believe. Not unlike that wave we see traveling through the stadium, other pitchers may be raising their hands one after the other. When he says that "...sometimes we have to deal with stuff", he could easily be speaking for Price and Porcello also. He may be doing just that.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jul 31, 2018 17:54:27 GMT -5
That's the one silver lining I was thinking of too. If he comes back completely healthy that time off could really preserve him for the post-season. At some point, if possible, it might do Price and Porcello some good to pull back the reigns too if the team can afford to. Price and Porcello have struggled in the post-season (as if we didn't know), but perhaps saving their arms from some wear and tear at some point can do them good. Who knows? Maybe if E-Rod can return, you get 4 starters will plenty of life in their arms for this season and your righty reliever acquisition in the playoffs becomes Eovaldi. I doubt they'd even bother to make the DL stint retroactive so he can come back in 7 days instead of 10 if it's anything more than giving him a little extra rest. ERod is returning man. Stop talking about everyone being lost for the season every time there's an injury! Did I say that Sale was gone for the season? Where? All I said is that I just don't think it's quite the vacation that you perhaps think it is. It's a little worrisome (feeling more soreness than you are normally used to feeling is not a positive thing, not necessarily the end of the world, but not a positive thing) and they don't want it to turn into something bigger, so they're getting ahead of it which is smart. But it's not like he doesn't feel anything and he's just going on vacation. If I'm the Sox I do anything within reason to preserve him so that peak Sale shows up in October, because if he does, as long as the pen or offense doesn't struggle that day the other team has no shot. Sounds like E-Rod is returning thankfully, but I don't know how good he's going to be by time October rolls around. You might recall that both times when he injured his knee it took him awhile to get comfortable and trust his body. I don't know that he's simply going to come off the DL and be the E-Rod he has been. I don't feel as comfortable in assuming it as you do. There's also the matter of building up his pitches and innings and if he comes back on Sept 1st the minor league season is over so he can't rehab in the minors. Doesn't mean E-Rod can't be what he was prior to the injury. I just don't feel as certain as you seem to feel. I admit that I do think Wright and Pedroia are effectively done for the season. I think Dombrowski wasn't taking any chances either. That's why he acquired who he acquired, Eovaldi and Kinsler.
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Post by ancientsoxfogey on Jul 31, 2018 18:06:27 GMT -5
I think the salient point is that Sale's condition must be non-negligible, or he wouldn't have picked this particular time to go on the DL with the Yankee series coming up. It may be minimal in that the main fear is that he has too much adrenaline for a Yankee start and really damages himself.
But there is something there. And now we turn our attention to the "Sale comes out from under wraps and really starts cutting loose" stories from awhile back. Remember the 5-game starting streak with 11+ strikeouts. Those are a lot of serious pitches. And of course, with this inflammation episode, everyone is going to be holding their breath and looking for trouble every time he takes the mound and immediately afterward, for the remainder of the season. Cumulative wear and tear IS cumulative wear and tear.
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Post by ericmvan on Jul 31, 2018 18:09:29 GMT -5
I think the odds are very good that he's pitched through this level of inflammation in the past, and we've seen what happens when he's done that.
Meanwhile, Brian Johnson is an insanely good alternative, given that he's formally the #8 starter.
There are 181 MLB starters with 30 IP in the role, almost exactly 6 per team.
Johnson's ranks:
ERA: 1 xFIP: 146 BABIP: 80 HR/FB: 15
I was thinking earlier today that the 2018 Red Sox may now have the greatest starting pitching depth baseball. They may well have nine guys that are better than MLB average, which is to say, #3 starters or better.
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Post by rjp313jr on Jul 31, 2018 18:11:25 GMT -5
“If this was something more serious, I would tell you,” he said. “We’re not hiding anything. This is nothing we’re worried about; this is a ‘concern’ at most. It’s just a little soreness in your pitching arm — take some Advil, get it rubbed down and (be) ready to go.”
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