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Post by texs31 on Nov 8, 2018 14:09:34 GMT -5
Burkhead back at practice so he's the 2nd DTR (of course, not a guarantee he returns but it looks good).
Croston to the PS after clearing waivers (S David Jones out)
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Nov 8, 2018 16:38:19 GMT -5
Burkhead is near a lock to come back, has to be. Only thing that makes sense. Bill didn't fill the hole at RB because he was coming back. They didn't go for an upgrade over Barner because he might not even be on the team for long. I am surprised they don't have a RB on the practice squad though, so maybe the do keep Barner or maybe they truly feel Patterson is the 4th RB. He looks good in that role and gives you major options. Heck I think he looks better at RB than WR.
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Post by rjp313jr on Nov 8, 2018 17:08:51 GMT -5
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Nov 8, 2018 17:17:23 GMT -5
I'd have to look at other guys, but I don't buy that for one second. He's the best receiving RB in football, but he's a rather poor runner. Just look at last game and 1st and goal from the 1 yard line. The best RB in football gets in 95% of the time. Whould you take White over Alvin Kamara? A guy that is a very good RB and great a catching the ball? He has 12 TDs and is the most complete RB that comes to mind.
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Post by texs31 on Nov 8, 2018 18:51:02 GMT -5
When I say it's not a lock, I'm referring to relapse of injury. They have made the decision to use their 2 DTRs on Dawson and Burkhead. So it is their intention to activate them.
But that intention doesnt guarantee activation. McLellin was designated in a prior year but he was not found to be healthy enough to activate.
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Post by rjp313jr on Nov 8, 2018 20:38:29 GMT -5
I'd have to look at other guys, but I don't buy that for one second. He's the best receiving RB in football, but he's a rather poor runner. Just look at last game and 1st and goal from the 1 yard line. The best RB in football gets in 95% of the time. Whould you take White over Alvin Kamara? A guy that is a very good RB and great a catching the ball? He has 12 TDs and is the most complete RB that comes to mind. I think the point is that running isn’t that valuable. No one is going to argue that White is the best at running, but on the series you’re referring to he was handed the ball once on first down and the blocking was terrible. He also ran it in later in the game on similar situation so 1 for 2 on goal line carries is pretty good. But again, the point is running the ball isn’t nearly as valuable as throwing and catching the ball. It’s also very dependent on the blockers. Gurley is running behind the best line In football this year. The year he had a terrible line his numbers were pedestrian. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Nov 9, 2018 7:48:59 GMT -5
I'd have to look at other guys, but I don't buy that for one second. He's the best receiving RB in football, but he's a rather poor runner. Just look at last game and 1st and goal from the 1 yard line. The best RB in football gets in 95% of the time. Whould you take White over Alvin Kamara? A guy that is a very good RB and great a catching the ball? He has 12 TDs and is the most complete RB that comes to mind. I think the point is that running isn’t that valuable. No one is going to argue that White is the best at running, but on the series you’re referring to he was handed the ball once on first down and the blocking was terrible. He also ran it in later in the game on similar situation so 1 for 2 on goal line carries is pretty good. But again, the point is running the ball isn’t nearly as valuable as throwing and catching the ball. It’s also very dependent on the blockers. Gurley is running behind the best line In football this year. The year he had a terrible line his numbers were pedestrian. Honest question you take White over Kamara? I don't buy running isn't that valuable, actually think its highly underrated. Kinda think Bill does too, as he just took a RB in the first round and pays a TE a ton to block, which is where Allen and the way he moves really has value. I do agree though that White is undervalued, I just think saying he's the best goes too far. Kamara is on pace for 20 TDs this year and close too 2,000 yards total offense. |
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Post by jimed14 on Nov 9, 2018 9:25:53 GMT -5
I think the point is that running isn’t that valuable. No one is going to argue that White is the best at running, but on the series you’re referring to he was handed the ball once on first down and the blocking was terrible. He also ran it in later in the game on similar situation so 1 for 2 on goal line carries is pretty good. But again, the point is running the ball isn’t nearly as valuable as throwing and catching the ball. It’s also very dependent on the blockers. Gurley is running behind the best line In football this year. The year he had a terrible line his numbers were pedestrian. Honest question you take White over Kamara? I don't buy running isn't that valuable, actually think its highly underrated. Kinda think Bill does too, as he just took a RB in the first round and pays a TE a ton to block, which is where Allen and the way he moves really has value. I do agree though that White is undervalued, I just think saying he's the best goes too far. Kamara is on pace for 20 TDs this year and close too 2,000 yards total offense. I think the point is that a lot of backs could do what Kamara is in New Orleans, but almost no backs can do what White is doing for the Pats. |
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Post by rjp313jr on Nov 9, 2018 13:10:49 GMT -5
I think the point is that running isn’t that valuable. No one is going to argue that White is the best at running, but on the series you’re referring to he was handed the ball once on first down and the blocking was terrible. He also ran it in later in the game on similar situation so 1 for 2 on goal line carries is pretty good. But again, the point is running the ball isn’t nearly as valuable as throwing and catching the ball. It’s also very dependent on the blockers. Gurley is running behind the best line In football this year. The year he had a terrible line his numbers were pedestrian. Honest question you take White over Kamara? I don't buy running isn't that valuable, actually think its highly underrated. Kinda think Bill does too, as he just took a RB in the first round and pays a TE a ton to block, which is where Allen and the way he moves really has value. I do agree though that White is undervalued, I just think saying he's the best goes too far. Kamara is on pace for 20 TDs this year and close too 2,000 yards total offense. No i would not, but I think you’re getting too mixed up. All they’ve said it what White has done this year has been the most valuable to today’s game. It has as much to do with how the Pats have used him and distributes the ball as it does with anything else. Put Kamara and Gurley on this offense instead of White and they may have all the rushing yards plus 61 receptions. It’s not about White being better than them. Also, your point about Bill paying a blocker more than his runners should tell you how he feels about the running game. Get good blocking and you can get production out of low priced backs. Let’s wait and see on Michel. I think they drafted him there because they think he can be a pass catching weapon (for bill that means blocking as much as catching) and also run the ball. Right now he’s just been running because that’s the easy part. |
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Post by texs31 on Nov 9, 2018 16:20:51 GMT -5
Wow! Unrelated to Pats but Dez Bryant likely tore his Achilles in practice today, according to reports.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Nov 9, 2018 17:51:29 GMT -5
Honest question you take White over Kamara? I don't buy running isn't that valuable, actually think its highly underrated. Kinda think Bill does too, as he just took a RB in the first round and pays a TE a ton to block, which is where Allen and the way he moves really has value. I do agree though that White is undervalued, I just think saying he's the best goes too far. Kamara is on pace for 20 TDs this year and close too 2,000 yards total offense. I think the point is that a lot of backs could do what Kamara is in New Orleans, but almost no backs can do what White is doing for the Pats. Are you joking? Kamara is on pace for over 1,900 yards of total offense and 24 TDs. He's an elite runner and pass catcher. He has a chance to be a 1,000 yard rusher and pass catcher. White is good, but Brady and our offense help him. He's likely the top pass catching RB, but that's because that is his role mainly. He's not getting beat up running the ball a ton. He's also on maybe the most talented offense in the league where teams focus on stopping Gronk, Gordon, Edleman, and then him. Heck when Michel was healthy he was likely in that mix. A guy like Kamara is there #1 playmaker. That team was in such need of help they signed Dez Bryant! |
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Post by rjp313jr on Nov 9, 2018 19:01:06 GMT -5
I think the point is that a lot of backs could do what Kamara is in New Orleans, but almost no backs can do what White is doing for the Pats. Are you joking? Kamara is on pace for over 1,900 yards of total offense and 24 TDs. He's an elite runner and pass catcher. He has a chance to be a 1,000 yard rusher and pass catcher. White is good, but Brady and our offense help him. He's likely the top pass catching RB, but that's because that is his role mainly. He's not getting beat up running the ball a ton. He's also on maybe the most talented offense in the league where teams focus on stopping Gronk, Gordon, Edleman, and then him. Heck when Michel was healthy he was likely in that mix. A guy like Kamara is there #1 playmaker. That team was in such need of help they signed Dez Bryant! I agree with this, which is why in football roles and teams are important. Just because what one player has done may make him more valuable at a given time, it doesn’t mean he’s the best. It’s a unique sport like that |
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Post by rjp313jr on Nov 10, 2018 13:31:58 GMT -5
Michel is going to play tomorrow but Gronk will not. The fact that Michel is coming back before the bye week is encouraging.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Nov 10, 2018 13:37:58 GMT -5
Michel is going to play tomorrow but Gronk will not. The fact that Michel is coming back before the bye week is encouraging. I was hoping they keep him out until after the bye week for recovery sake. |
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Post by rjp313jr on Nov 10, 2018 18:18:17 GMT -5
Michel is going to play tomorrow but Gronk will not. The fact that Michel is coming back before the bye week is encouraging. I was hoping they keep him out until after the bye week for recovery sake. Now reports are mixed. He did travel with the team. |
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Nov 11, 2018 10:12:56 GMT -5
I was hoping they keep him out until after the bye week for recovery sake. Now reports are mixed. He did travel with the team. They should hold him out for another week. The Pats should beat Tennessee regardless. |
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Post by jimed14 on Nov 11, 2018 11:54:18 GMT -5
I just can't get enough "will Le'Veon Bell report?" stories.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Nov 11, 2018 13:23:57 GMT -5
Man I miss Dion Lewis.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Nov 11, 2018 13:30:28 GMT -5
Giving up 14 points to one of the worst offenses in football in the first quarter.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Nov 11, 2018 13:36:16 GMT -5
Are they really going to lose to the freaking Titans?
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Nov 11, 2018 13:41:43 GMT -5
Giving up 14 points to one of the worst offenses in football in the first quarter. Correction. 17 points. Yay for the defense. |
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Post by soxfansince67 on Nov 11, 2018 13:55:32 GMT -5
The D started out looking completely uninterested. Offense is waking up anyway.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Nov 11, 2018 14:17:50 GMT -5
The D started out looking completely uninterested. Offense is waking up anyway. Defense decided to wake up a little. Finally. Meanwhile Gordon has one catch on 6 targets I'm counting. He's letting passes go through his fingertips. He's falling down on the field. |
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Post by wcp3 on Nov 11, 2018 14:18:12 GMT -5
The D started out looking completely uninterested. Offense is waking up anyway. They were, but McDaniels got in its way. |
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Post by rjp313jr on Nov 11, 2018 14:21:36 GMT -5
Gilmore just not having a good day
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