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Post by texs31 on Dec 4, 2018 12:22:52 GMT -5
Seems crazy that the NHL was the 2nd league to 32 teams
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Post by jimed14 on Dec 4, 2018 12:42:40 GMT -5
Seems crazy that the NHL was the 2nd league to 32 teams NHL owners want to split that $650 million in expansion fees. That's all the thought put into it. They already can't support what they have now.
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Post by James Dunne on Dec 4, 2018 14:00:36 GMT -5
Seems crazy that the NHL was the 2nd league to 32 teams NHL owners want to split that $650 million in expansion fees. That's all the thought put into it. They already can't support what they have now.Part of that is because they've been expanding in relocating in wrong places, rather than Seattle.
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Post by jimed14 on Dec 4, 2018 16:59:21 GMT -5
NHL owners want to split that $650 million in expansion fees. That's all the thought put into it. They already can't support what they have now.Part of that is because they've been expanding in relocating in wrong places, rather than Seattle. There aren't 32 cities that can support NHL teams was the point. They could have moved a team pretending to draw 12,000 fans a game where in actuality, only about 6000 of those fans paid for the tickets and only 6500 showed up. Living in Carolina Hurricanes territory, I know that they come nowhere close to the 12,728 average attendance they say they draw. They have buy one get one free nights. They have 'donate a can of food, get a ticket for $5' nights. They also give away tons of tickets. They have free tickets for veterans nights and $5 college nights. And this is the first year in about 10 years where the Canes look competitive. Other years when they stink, you'd have sections of the lower level that had dozens of completely empty rows.
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Post by James Dunne on Dec 4, 2018 17:07:07 GMT -5
Yeah, I don't really disagree with any of that. I'm just happy Seattle has a team. Other issues aside, it's a good match.
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Post by soxfansince67 on Jan 2, 2019 0:23:24 GMT -5
I've not watched a Bruins game in a long time, but did catch the outdoor game today - what fun! Rask looked great, offense looked pretty good - a nice win. Only thing that would have made it better would have been some snow showers to give it a bit more atmosphere!
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Post by texs31 on Jan 4, 2019 22:58:30 GMT -5
Jimmy Murphy reporting that STL and BOS are talking trade. Brayden Schenn seems to be the target.
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Post by texs31 on Jan 28, 2019 14:29:51 GMT -5
Frederic getting a crack at 3rd line C (JFK and Donato sent down). McIntyre called up with Rask likely still dealing with a concussion.
Of course, Frederic could also be a showcase for a trade. Given that he's from St Louis, he's often mentioned as a piece in a Schenn or (less likely?) Tarasenko trade.
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Post by texs31 on Jan 29, 2019 21:09:21 GMT -5
Can't help but think we're going to love Frederic.
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Post by texs31 on Jan 30, 2019 14:30:24 GMT -5
Reports are that Sweeney re-engaged Columbus on Panarin and it's said the offer would start at Debrusk, a prospect (preferably with a few NHL games of experience) and a 1st rounder.
That just seems to heavy for my tastes (especially for a Free Agent).
Seems like the demands all start with:
1 of DeBrusk, McAvoy or Carlo 1 Prospect 1st Rounder
Just think that's crazy for any who doesn't have term. Guys like Schenn SHOULD cost less but we'll see.
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Post by texs31 on Feb 12, 2019 13:12:55 GMT -5
Pastrnak out 2-3 weeks with a broken thumb
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Post by texs31 on Feb 15, 2019 11:45:44 GMT -5
With the NHL Trade Deadline 10 days away, I thought it's a good time to summarize where things stand. The needs are obvious. A top 6 Wing and a 3rd line C. Not sure there is any debate on that. Ideally, Sweeney has been looking for guys with term but that means you're either giving up a haul or getting someone who you hope plays up after a trade. Now to the assets:
Untouchable: Marchand, Pastrnak, Bergeron, McAvoy Shouldn't go anywhere despite what many want: Krejci, Krug, Rask Untradeable: Backes What's the point of trading them: Chara, Moore, Miller, Kampfer, Acciari, Nordstrom, Wagner, Kuraly
Not untouchable but trading them would be unwise IMO - Debrusk and Carlo (I know I'll get some pushback on Carlo but he's a young, big RH D and he's starting to use his size. To replace him would be hard).
So now let's group the REAL trade candidates by position:
Cs - Studnicka, Frederic, JFK - I'd put them in that order in terms of upside. Would love to keep Studnicka. No problem trading JFK. May need to trade Frederic to fill one of your needs with a guy who has term.
Wings (with NHL experience) - Donato, Heinen, Cehlarik and Bjork - Bjork is injured (again) so you're not trading him for anything of value. The other 3 have had various levels of success and trials and all 3 are restricted next year. I'm guessing 1 of them goes. Heinen is the most established and fits in the top 9 (ideally, he's a 3rd liner who can swing to 2nd line. But when you have linemates like Marchand and Bergy, he hasn't looked out of place. Problem, for me, is how much is that going to cost next year. On an entry deal, he's perfect. Signed as an RFA, does he become too expensive? With Donato, we've seen great signs but also some significant dips. I also wonder how it looks to convince a guy to not become a FA out of college to come play for the home team and then trade him within the year. I like Cehlarik and wonder if he can't do what Heinen does.
Left Shot Defense - Grzelcyk, Vaakanainen, Lauzon and Zboril - Grizz might be the most tradeable amongst are established players. I know everyone wants to trade Krug saying that he can replace Torey. Long term, maybe that's the play (but Krug is one of the best as an offensive D and, despite defensive short-comings, that's not getting replaced by anything that Grizz does). I think Vaakanainen is with Studnicka as close to untouchable amongst the prospects. Zboril is the LH D version of JK. Disappointing prospect who still shows signs. I'm fine if they trade him. I like Lauzon but he could be a valuable piece.
Wings (Prospect) - Senyshyn and Lauko - I don't hate the Senyshyn pick as much as others do. It was always going to take time and I keep reading that there is something there. That being said, I get that you'd like to have something to show for a 1st rounder by now. Meanwhile, Lauko has taken his place as the high upside wing that is further away.
Grouping them differently, I'd probably go
Trade - Heinen, Grzelcyk, JFK, Zboril and Senyshyn Better be a good deal - Frederic, Donato/Cehlarik, Lauzon and Lauko Please no - Studnicka and Vaakanainen Injured - Bjork
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Post by texs31 on Feb 15, 2019 11:52:16 GMT -5
Forgot the Goalie Prospects.
I'd like to keep Keyser. No loyalties to either Vladar or McIntyre though both probably have NHL futures (even if only as backups).
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Post by rjp313jr on Feb 15, 2019 13:40:48 GMT -5
Hasn’t heinen played well up on the first line the last few games? I think he’s a solid player but haven’t watched a lot this year
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Post by texs31 on Feb 15, 2019 13:58:00 GMT -5
Oh I like Heinen. It was not my intent to say otherwise. Just that:
1. If the idea is that we're trading for a top 6 winger, then Heinen is getting bumped to 3rd line (yes, I know Pasta is out but I'm thinking about a playoff run and into subsequent seasons)
2. As a 3rd liner, could Cehlarik give you what he would? DH has more of a track record to be sure. But that leads me to:
3. Both are RFAs next year. Cehlarik probably cheaper than Heinen but might give you similar production.
4. Also, Heinen (and Grizz) are the assets that are not really projections as NHL players. They ARE players now and, despite pending FA, that has value.
So it's really a combo of "you have to give something to get something" and "would the drop off to Cehlarik - short term and long term, really be that significant?"
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Post by texs31 on Feb 20, 2019 18:06:50 GMT -5
Charlie Coyle to Bruins. Joey Mac hearing its Donato and a 5th.
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Post by voiceofreason on Feb 20, 2019 19:37:03 GMT -5
I was/am hoping for Stone.
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Post by texs31 on Feb 21, 2019 8:36:42 GMT -5
I'd like to think there is another move coming. Coyle should be the 3rd line C not the 2nd line wing they need.
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Post by rjp313jr on Feb 21, 2019 8:43:56 GMT -5
I'd like to think there is another move coming. Coyle should be the 3rd line C not the 2nd line wing they need. Donato was a steep price but he’s had a terrible year
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Post by voiceofreason on Feb 21, 2019 8:47:21 GMT -5
Bruins are hot, stranger things have happened.
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Post by texs31 on Feb 21, 2019 10:26:13 GMT -5
After the Coyle move, Bruins have about $3.5 million in space. A trade for a 2nd line winger would like include someone from the current roster. If we assume, DeBrusk is untouchable, that would leave Grzlecyk and Heinen as the candidates most likely to move in such a deal.
Alternatively, you could see Moore moved in a separate deal to move salary and maybe re-coup that pick you just gave to Minnesota (note on that, the 5th could become NYR's 4th depending on the B's playoff success).
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Post by texs31 on Feb 21, 2019 10:43:22 GMT -5
For additional context, the Pats have a projected 2019 Cap Space of about $14M with the following free agents pending (not including those that are depth guys at best):
UFA - Chara and Acciari RFA - McAvoy, Carlo, Heinen, Cehlarik and JFK
They'd still have a need for a top 6 wing (depending on what happens at this year's deadline) and would have to decide if they want to bring back Chara while they let a guy like Vaakanainen develop (most think he's a top 4 pair guy and he's NHL ready but I'd think bottom pair early on would be the better expectation for next year).
As an exercise @bruinscapspace was using some projections on the RFAs
McAvoy - $6M (wouldn't surprise me if that ends up being low) Carlo - $4.25M Heinen - $2.75M
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Post by texs31 on Feb 22, 2019 15:01:53 GMT -5
Matt Duchene just went to Columbus (along with an okay prospect) for 2 decent prospects and a 1st rounder (2nd 1st rounder will also be included if Duchene signs with the Jackets).
I'd like to think that stops the Stone (comparable player in similar situation) is going to cost DeBrusk talk. Not sure what it says about Panarin (different team, much better player, etc)
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Post by voiceofreason on Feb 23, 2019 8:43:11 GMT -5
The B's have the prospects to give.
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Post by texs31 on Feb 23, 2019 10:17:14 GMT -5
Really hope they hold on to Vaakanainen and Studnicka. Based on 1 man's view of the prospects (Corey Pronman's midseason update) those 2 are rated higher than the 2 that CMB gave up for Duchene (2 Bs guys were on his "just missed" list).
I do wonder if hes holding out for someone with term though. Started to read some buzz about Hoffman being available. Not as good as Stone or Panarin (obviously) but may not be a bad option.
That being said, too much added salary for next yr (coupled with the pending RFA status of McAvoy, Carlo and Heinen) and you might have to dump someone to make it all work next offseason.
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