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Post by soxjim on Oct 28, 2018 2:23:36 GMT -5
It will take us some time to come to terms with what we are privileged to be experiencing this season. Got no words, really.. except we are historically fortunate.Huh? We're better so far. Also-- I've found it odd some people have spoken of "throw-away games." This team is on the cusp of being considered all-time great. There is some luck required to win. But a 108 regular season win team overall is hardly "historically lucky."
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Post by rivenp on Oct 28, 2018 2:47:12 GMT -5
It will take us some time to come to terms with what we are privileged to be experiencing this season. Got no words, really.. except we are historically fortunate.Huh? We're better so far. Also-- I've found it odd some people have spoken of "throw-away games." This team is on the cusp of being considered all-time great. There is some luck required to win. But a 108 regular season win team overall is hardly "historically lucky." --- i think he meant as fans...lucky to be witnesses and not that the red sox have been lucky to win.
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Post by mobaz on Oct 28, 2018 3:18:53 GMT -5
I never doubted! Says the guy who fell asleep after Muncy HR (though partially due to extenuating circumstances) and awoke at 4am for the second night in a row saying WTF??? Love this team!
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Post by ericmvan on Oct 28, 2018 3:22:44 GMT -5
Pitcher G4 G3 G2 G1 Kimbrel 28 28 9 13 Barnes 11 23 -- 14 Brasier -- 18 -- 18 Kelly 30 12 11 14 Eovaldi -- 97 13 16 Hembree -- 25 -- -- Sale -- -- -- 91 Porcello -- 61 -- -- Rodriguez 93 6 -- 3 Price -- 13 88 -- Jansen 10 32 -- -- Baez -- 26 5 10 Madson 8 2 12 14 Urias -- 11 9 15 Maeda 12 36 14 -- Floro 10 29 -- -- Wood 4 15 -- 21 Alexander 4 19 5 -- Ryu -- -- 69 -- Buehler -- 108 -- -- Hill 91 -- -- -- Kershaw -- -- -- 79
Kimbrel might be available for a batter without pitching much past a career high; he tied his career high for pitches in back-to-back games (6/11 and 6/12 of this year) and has thrown more pitches over three consecutive games three times, in 2011 (58), 2015 (57), and 2017 (61). Barnes has pitched three straight days 4 times in his career. He once threw 27 over 2 days and another 20, and another time 24 over two days and then 27. So he's probably available for two outs and maybe an inning, but likely no more.
No idea if Porcello would be available for an inning. That would be very interesting. OTOH, if Sale pitches to try and clinch the series (which may well be the plan), and it backfires, I think that Porcello and Eovaldi are the game 6 and 7 starters, on 3 days rest each.
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Post by marrcus on Oct 28, 2018 4:57:39 GMT -5
Lou suggested on the radio broadcast --in real time-- that they were laying off his cutter because they knew it was coming?
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Post by lonborgski on Oct 28, 2018 4:57:43 GMT -5
Pitcher G4 G3 G2 G1 Kimbrel 28 28 9 13 Barnes 11 23 -- 14 Brasier -- 18 -- 18 Kelly 30 12 11 14 Eovaldi -- 97 13 16 Hembree -- 25 -- -- Sale -- -- -- 91 Porcello -- 61 -- -- Rodriguez 93 6 -- 3 Price -- 13 88 -- Jansen 10 32 -- -- Baez -- 26 5 10 Madson 8 2 12 14 Urias -- 11 9 15 Maeda 12 36 14 -- Floro 10 29 -- -- Wood 4 15 -- 21 Alexander 4 19 5 -- Ryu -- -- 69 -- Buehler -- 108 -- -- Hill 91 -- -- -- Kershaw -- -- -- 79
Kimbrel might be available for a batter without pitching much past a career high; he tied his career high for pitches in back-to-back games (6/11 and 6/12 of this year) and has thrown more pitches over three consecutive games three times, in 2011 (58), 2015 (57), and 2017 (61). Barnes has pitched three straight days 4 times in his career. He once threw 27 over 2 days and another 20, and another time 24 over two days and then 27. So he's probably available for two outs and maybe an inning, but likely no more.
No idea if Porcello would be available for an inning. That would be very interesting. OTOH, if Sale pitches to try and clinch the series (which may well be the plan), and it backfires, I think that Porcello and Eovaldi are the game 6 and 7 starters, on 3 days rest each.
Price?
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Post by ericmvan on Oct 28, 2018 5:55:31 GMT -5
Win Probability Added so far. I've charged the Kinsler error to him instead of Eovaldi (adjusting for the result if the play ends with runners on the corner with 2 out). Name WPA S Pearce .445 N Eovaldi .372 J Kelly .324 B Holt .306 C Kimbrel .290 R Devers .241 D Price .178 J Martinez .153 H Hembree .125 J Bradley Jr. .098 M Barnes .091 R Porcello .055 A Benintendi .046 S Leon .029 E Nunez .007 E Rodriguez -.008 C Sale -.020 B Swihart -.033 M Moreland -.042 R Brasier -.069 C Vazquez -.270 M Betts -.279 X Bogaerts -.472 I Kinsler -.567 How crazy is the ranking of the three July acquisitions? And who had the Sox up 3 to 1 with Mookie and Xander costing us 3/4 of a win?
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Oct 28, 2018 6:19:44 GMT -5
God I hate the National League. Pitchers hitting and running the bases is the dumbest thing ever. I'm not a fan of pitchers hitting but I gotta say (writing as a happy camper after the game) that if you don't know you should actually run when on the bases, that's a travesty. What we don't know is how ERod's ankle affects that.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Oct 28, 2018 6:26:26 GMT -5
Surprising....
Eric Fisher Verified account @ericfishersbj
MLB Commissioner Rob Manfred says that he, too, is a bit frustrated/bewildered about current World Series ratings. Despite west coast/east matchup w two glamour teams, G1-2 ratings off ~10% & lowest since SF/KC in '14. "We're looking hard at it and haven't isolated a cause."
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Oct 28, 2018 6:41:59 GMT -5
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Post by greatscottcooper on Oct 28, 2018 6:47:47 GMT -5
Holy cow what a game.
It’s amazing how at one moment we are up 2-0, then they win an 18 inning game which felt like everything could change. Then it felt as if the series could possibly be changing.
A day later our offense is MIA and it looks like we’re on the verge of being tied 2-2. The momentum has swung back towards LA, they have Verlander going tomorrow and they can come back to Boston up 3-2.
In seemingly one hour our offense breaks through and we find ourselves up 3-1. It’s amazing how a few plays and a few moments can define a series.
I love the ideal of Sale pitching game 6 with plenty of rest. If we needed a game 7 then seemingly everyone would be available for game 7. The way our starters have performed I’d trust them all for an inning or two in that situation.
I called Sox in 6, and at this point I’d be surprised if this series gets to a game 7. Screw wining at home or being right, I want this series tonight.
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Post by awall on Oct 28, 2018 7:07:01 GMT -5
It is way past time for the cowards running MLB to suspend this piece of trash.
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Post by awall on Oct 28, 2018 7:09:03 GMT -5
I went to bed after 5 cause I knew they had it in the bag. Honest. I swear.
I think what I love most about this year is that it feels like we have the same kind of team we had during the golden years of Tito’s reign.
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Post by chrisfromnc on Oct 28, 2018 7:21:45 GMT -5
It is way past time for the cowards running MLB to suspend this piece of trash. I’m sorry to repeat a post from about six pages ago. The bubble he’s blowing makes him a goofy idiot that I don’t want on my team. Him stepping on Pearce’s heel (spiking him) makes him a a dirty player who should not only be fined, but he should be ostracized by every member of the players union. He should be a treated as a pariah by his teammates. His oponents should reinforce how much he is disliked. He should get hard tags (glove love) when he is on the base paths. This should happen starting immediately in this series. His behavior should not be treated as if he’s normal. He’s not. He’s got all the talent in the world but who cares when you are such an ass on the field.
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Post by telson13 on Oct 28, 2018 7:53:47 GMT -5
Is anyone else having difficulty reconciling Price’s playoff history with the fact that he’s going to win MVP tonight with a 7 2 0 0 0 10 line?
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Post by wcp3 on Oct 28, 2018 7:56:31 GMT -5
Surprising.... Eric Fisher Verified account @ericfishersbj MLB Commissioner Rob Manfred says that he, too, is a bit frustrated/bewildered about current World Series ratings. Despite west coast/east matchup w two glamour teams, G1-2 ratings off ~10% & lowest since SF/KC in '14. "We're looking hard at it and haven't isolated a cause." When it comes to engaging casual fans, the MLB swings and misses every time, so it’s laughable that they’re surprised when something like this happens.
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Post by voiceofreason on Oct 28, 2018 8:09:30 GMT -5
The way the Dodgers are acting I would hope it would light a fire under the Sox bats that hasn't been there in too long. Come on boys get hot and get mad. LA is basking a bit too much. The bats woke up!! 1 win away from one of the best seasons of all time!! Kelly, Price, JBJ, Devers, Eovoldi, Pearce, the names leading the way is an interesting cast of characters. What a TEAM, what a year. Biggest concern turns into the greatest strength, you just never know that's why they play the games. How does a Pearce Moreland platoon look like for next season? Tonight has a Christmas kind of feel.
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Post by ancientsoxfogey on Oct 28, 2018 8:12:35 GMT -5
If you look at the swings of Holt and Devers in the 9th inning, they look like Rod Carew/Tony Gwynn clones. Both of them were aiming their swings to send the ball exactly where it went. Devers especially looked JUST like Rod Carew.
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Post by voiceofreason on Oct 28, 2018 8:13:28 GMT -5
Is anyone else having difficulty reconciling Price’s playoff history with the fact that he’s going to win MVP tonight with a 7 2 0 0 0 10 line? Love it when someone who has been justly vilified over comes a perceived weakness.
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Post by voiceofreason on Oct 28, 2018 8:15:44 GMT -5
If you look at the swings of Holt and Devers in the 9th inning, they look like Rod Carew/Tony Gwynn clones. Both of them were aiming their swings to send the ball exactly where it went. Devers especially looked JUST like Rod Carew. If Raffy can be as consistent as Carew was with his pop he is on his way to a great career.
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Post by wcp3 on Oct 28, 2018 8:34:53 GMT -5
Embarrassing performance by the offense this weekend. spoke a little too soon *whispers* all about dat reverse jinx
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Post by nomar on Oct 28, 2018 8:38:23 GMT -5
Surprising.... Eric Fisher Verified account @ericfishersbj MLB Commissioner Rob Manfred says that he, too, is a bit frustrated/bewildered about current World Series ratings. Despite west coast/east matchup w two glamour teams, G1-2 ratings off ~10% & lowest since SF/KC in '14. "We're looking hard at it and haven't isolated a cause." The Dodgers may have the least sincere fan base in the sport. I think it starts and ends there. You have like 5% of it who actually follows them, and the rest only pretend to care about sports for a few weeks out of the year. I wouldn’t be surprised if there were more people watching the game at 3 AM on the east coast than 12 AM on the west coast.
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Post by jimoh on Oct 28, 2018 8:40:56 GMT -5
Pitcher G4 G3 G2 G1 Kimbrel 28 28 9 13 Barnes 11 23 -- 14 Brasier -- 18 -- 18 Kelly 30 12 11 14 Eovaldi -- 97 13 16 Hembree -- 25 -- -- Sale -- -- -- 91 Porcello -- 61 -- -- Rodriguez 93 6 -- 3 Price -- 13 88 -- Jansen 10 32 -- -- Baez -- 26 5 10 Madson 8 2 12 14 Urias -- 11 9 15 Maeda 12 36 14 -- Floro 10 29 -- -- Wood 4 15 -- 21 Alexander 4 19 5 -- Ryu -- -- 69 -- Buehler -- 108 -- -- Hill 91 -- -- -- Kershaw -- -- -- 79
Kimbrel might be available for a batter without pitching much past a career high; he tied his career high for pitches in back-to-back games (6/11 and 6/12 of this year) and has thrown more pitches over three consecutive games three times, in 2011 (58), 2015 (57), and 2017 (61). Barnes has pitched three straight days 4 times in his career. He once threw 27 over 2 days and another 20, and another time 24 over two days and then 27. So he's probably available for two outs and maybe an inning, but likely no more.
No idea if Porcello would be available for an inning. That would be very interesting. OTOH, if Sale pitches to try and clinch the series (which may well be the plan), and it backfires, I think that Porcello and Eovaldi are the game 6 and 7 starters, on 3 days rest each.
Interesting choice ahead if we have a lead in the 9th tonight. Tired, shaky Kimbrell? Brasier? Tired Kelly? Barnes? Hembree? Eovaldi? Sale? Porcello? Three guys R L R?
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Post by Legion of Bloom on Oct 28, 2018 8:48:48 GMT -5
That Sale vid screaming in the dugout is pure gold.
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Post by manfred on Oct 28, 2018 8:57:34 GMT -5
Pitcher G4 G3 G2 G1 Kimbrel 28 28 9 13 Barnes 11 23 -- 14 Brasier -- 18 -- 18 Kelly 30 12 11 14 Eovaldi -- 97 13 16 Hembree -- 25 -- -- Sale -- -- -- 91 Porcello -- 61 -- -- Rodriguez 93 6 -- 3 Price -- 13 88 -- Jansen 10 32 -- -- Baez -- 26 5 10 Madson 8 2 12 14 Urias -- 11 9 15 Maeda 12 36 14 -- Floro 10 29 -- -- Wood 4 15 -- 21 Alexander 4 19 5 -- Ryu -- -- 69 -- Buehler -- 108 -- -- Hill 91 -- -- -- Kershaw -- -- -- 79
Kimbrel might be available for a batter without pitching much past a career high; he tied his career high for pitches in back-to-back games (6/11 and 6/12 of this year) and has thrown more pitches over three consecutive games three times, in 2011 (58), 2015 (57), and 2017 (61). Barnes has pitched three straight days 4 times in his career. He once threw 27 over 2 days and another 20, and another time 24 over two days and then 27. So he's probably available for two outs and maybe an inning, but likely no more.
No idea if Porcello would be available for an inning. That would be very interesting. OTOH, if Sale pitches to try and clinch the series (which may well be the plan), and it backfires, I think that Porcello and Eovaldi are the game 6 and 7 starters, on 3 days rest each.
Interesting choice ahead if we have a lead in the 9th tonight. Tired, shaky Kimbrell? Brasier? Tired Kelly? Barnes? Hembree? Eovaldi? Sale? Porcello? Three guys R L R? Well rested Pomeranz?
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