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Red Sox vs. Dodgers 2018 World Series Gameday Thread
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Oct 26, 2018 11:24:02 GMT -5
Blame Christian Vazquez if he's laying down blatant signs to steal. He's the one laying these signs down.
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Post by jimed14 on Oct 26, 2018 11:40:55 GMT -5
Blame Christian Vazquez if he's laying down blatant signs to steal. He's the one laying these signs down. Really? How does one lay down blatant signs with a runner on 2nd? And how would you know if he was? Give me a reason other than your hatred of him.
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Post by jimed14 on Oct 26, 2018 11:45:40 GMT -5
Here's why Boston is poised to hit BuehlerThere's no questioning Walker Buehler's stuff. The electricity flows into the strikeout numbers -- he has at least seven in each of his three postseason starts, including seven in 4 2/3 innings of one-run baseball in the Game 7 win that clinched the National League pennant for the Dodgers. But in Game 3 of the World Series at Dodger Stadium on Friday, he'll face a Red Sox offense that's unlike the Braves, or the Brewers, or really any team in Major League Baseball. Boston's lineup is going to pose a unique challenge for the 24-year-old flamethrower, for one big reason: The Red Sox crush high velocity. Highest team xwOBA vs. 96-plus-mph fastballs in the 2018 regular season 1. Red Sox: .360 2. Nationals: .336 3. Dodgers: .335 4. Cardinals: .324 5. Blue Jays: .323 19. Braves: .292 (Buehler's NLDS opponent) 22. Brewers: .287 (Buehler's NLCS opponent) League xwOBA vs. 96-plus mph fastballs: .302 The Red Sox also rarely swung and missed, even against fastballs at that high velocity. They whiffed on only 18.7 percent of their swings against 96-plus mph fastballs, the second-lowest rate of any team. That could make a big difference against a strikeout-oriented pitcher such as Buehler, who got 88 of his 151 strikeouts on fastballs during the regular season -- and has gotten 16 of his 22 postseason strikeouts -- nearly 75 percent -- on fastballs. I expect a huge percentage of curves from Buehler. Whether he can throw it for strikes will probably be the key to the game.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Oct 26, 2018 12:24:03 GMT -5
May have read too much in to what Roberts was saying in his press conference but it did sound to me like if there was another lefty going for the Sox that he would have went with that same righty only lineup. He said something along the lines of those guys will be in there but not because of the results of the last two games but because of the matchup with Porcello being a righty. Also if they were using anybody as an opener I would think they would have taken a page out of the Brewers book and went with E-Rod or Pomeranz as the opener and went to Porcello quickly. Can't figure out why Roberts wouldn't use Muncy against lefties. His numbers are great against lefties. Bellinger's numbers against lefties aren't great, but he's not helpless against them the way Pederson is. If they need to, E-Rod as a starter in Game 4 makes sense, or better yet, perhaps as a piggyback starter to Eovaldi as I can't imagine that Eovaldi would be able to throw a lot of pitches as a starter. The Robert's statement was made after game 2. It was in reference to why the same lineup in game 2. Two lefties, the statement made sense in the context he used it.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Oct 26, 2018 12:40:38 GMT -5
Blame Christian Vazquez if he's laying down blatant signs to steal. He's the one laying these signs down. Really? How does one lay down blatant signs with a runner on 2nd? And how would you know if he was? Give me a reason other than your hatred of him. I don't hate Vazquez. If a runner is picking up signs at second base, when you know he is going to try to pick up signs, then yes it's pretty blatant. It's just common sense. You think Manny Machado is that good at this kind of thing? Because Manny Machado comes off as a lazy moron when he talks most of the time.
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Post by jimed14 on Oct 26, 2018 12:42:12 GMT -5
Really? How does one lay down blatant signs with a runner on 2nd? And how would you know if he was? Give me a reason other than your hatred of him. I don't hate Vazquez. If a runner is picking up signs at second base, when you know he is going to pick up signs, then yes it's prett blatant. It's just common sense. You think Manny Machado is that good at this kind of thing? I think that the Red Sox use the same exact sign difficulty for every Red Sox catcher. Apparently Machado is good at it. It is not common sense that the catcher blew the calls when the other team steals the signs. I mean he was able to relay the information to the batter so they have prepared for stealing signs. The catcher does have to relay something that the pitcher can understand, and thus players on the other team are always able to steal. The only signs that cannot be stolen are ones that don't exist.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Oct 26, 2018 12:48:54 GMT -5
I don't hate Vazquez. If a runner is picking up signs at second base, when you know he is going to pick up signs, then yes it's prett blatant. It's just common sense. You think Manny Machado is that good at this kind of thing? I think that the Red Sox use the same exact sign difficulty for every Red Sox catcher. Apparently Machado is good at it. It is not common sense that the catcher blew the calls when the other team steals the signs. I totally disagree. There's a reason why they change signs at second base. Apparently Vazquez wasn't doing this enough. It's really that simple if the runner is picking them up.
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Post by jimed14 on Oct 26, 2018 12:50:44 GMT -5
I think that the Red Sox use the same exact sign difficulty for every Red Sox catcher. Apparently Machado is good at it. It is not common sense that the catcher blew the calls when the other team steals the signs. I totally disagree. There's a reason why they change signs at second base. Apparently Vazquez wasn't doing this enough. It's really that simple if the runner is picking them up. They could have picked up the sign change indication (which I believe happens when the catcher starts touching their arms). It's really kind of weird to start going down this road of assigning blame. The biggest problem was Levangie not visiting the mound. He won't do that again I bet.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Oct 26, 2018 12:54:13 GMT -5
I totally disagree. There's a reason why they change signs at second base. Apparently Vazquez wasn't doing this enough. It's really that simple if the runner is picking them up. They could have picked up the sign change indication (which I believe happens when the catcher starts touching their arms). Even if they did pick up the change sign indication, they wouldn't know what sign to look for usually when calling pitches, unless they had inside knowledge or something. It's okay if Vazquez got lazy back there or screwed up. The Sox still won. No reason to defend everything the Sox do. No one's perfect. I was just pointing out what I think needed to be said. That's all.
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Post by jimed14 on Oct 26, 2018 12:57:23 GMT -5
They could have picked up the sign change indication (which I believe happens when the catcher starts touching their arms). Even if they did pick up the change sign indication, they wouldn't know what sign to look for usually when calling pitches. Unless they had inside knowledge or something. It's okay if Vazquez got lazy back there or screwed up. The Sox still won. No reason to defend everything the Sox do. No one's perfect. I was just pointing out what I think needed to be said. That's all. You have zero evidence and are just assuming that your assumption is true. He may be at fault, but there's no possible way of knowing that without making a wild guess. Sorry. If they did pick up the change sign indication, they would know what sign to look for (which is exactly how the pitchers know what to throw). I mean the signs that the pitcher decodes are seen by absolutely everyone. If you decode it, you'll know as much as the pitcher. Machado did it. (or maybe he was just completely bluffing and we'll never know that either)
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Oct 26, 2018 13:01:12 GMT -5
Yeap sure whatever.
If someone told me if I had a option to pick-
That Machado is a smart astute student of the game or
That Vazquez got lazy, sidetracked, or distracted behind the plate and didn't pick up on Manny picking on signs.
Guess which option makes most sense.
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Post by jimed14 on Oct 26, 2018 13:04:31 GMT -5
Those are not the only two options which destroys the logic of "if not A, then B must be true". But I'm done now.
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Oct 26, 2018 13:17:50 GMT -5
I don't have a great feeling about this one, I know we're hot but its been a bit worrying this team is taking cookies down the middle and then swinging in the dirt for strike 3, especially Bogaerts. Teams don't hit as well on the road and the Dodgers have their best pitcher.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Oct 26, 2018 13:33:44 GMT -5
I don't have a great feeling about this one, I know we're hot but its been a bit worrying this team is taking cookies down the middle and then swinging in the dirt for strike 3, especially Bogaerts. Teams don't hit as well on the road and the Dodgers have their best pitcher. Plus JDM's health is questionable and even if he plays JBJ doesn't. I would think the Dodgers are more likely to win today and if they do we have ourselves a series and a big test for the Sox. There's been a more than a few articles already declaring the Series over which is kind of uncomfortable. But if the Sox find a way to swipe this game away and the Dodgers go down 3-0, then yeah, they're in huge trouble and that's why Cora will be managing to win this games at almost all costs (don't think he'd risk the health of JDM or Sale to win the game). The good news is that the Sox made it easier on themselves by literally freezing out the Dodgers the first two games, so their margin of error is a little bit bigger, but still...and I think Cora has instilled it in his team that there's plenty of more work to do. I think the Sox have the right attitude.
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Post by Oregon Norm on Oct 26, 2018 13:40:40 GMT -5
Yeap sure whatever. If someone told me if I had a option to pick- That Machado is a smart astute student of the game or That Vazquez got lazy, sidetracked, or distracted behind the plate and didn't pick up on Manny picking on signs. Guess which option makes most sense. You can stop that stuff right now or get your ass off the board.
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Post by ematz1423 on Oct 26, 2018 13:48:20 GMT -5
My hopeful prediction for tonight is that Buehler being a rookie struggles out of the gate on the big stage and the Sox take an early lead. Porcello pitches well enough to keep them in the game, I'm thinking 5 innings and 3 or 4 runs. After settling in after the first inning Buehler runs into a bit of trouble in the 5th and Roberts continues to manage as he has this series and pulls him too early preferably for Madson and the Red Sox once again take the lead and once again the bullpen including Eovaldi lock it down on the way to a 7 to 5 victory.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Oct 26, 2018 13:55:14 GMT -5
Yeap sure whatever. If someone told me if I had a option to pick- That Machado is a smart astute student of the game or That Vazquez got lazy, sidetracked, or distracted behind the plate and didn't pick up on Manny picking on signs. Guess which option makes most sense. You can stop that stuff right now or get your ass off the board. No problem. Wouldn't be the first time I left, but it could be the last. I only stick around for few, but this is what drives me away.
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Post by Guidas on Oct 26, 2018 13:59:23 GMT -5
Here's why Boston is poised to hit BuehlerThere's no questioning Walker Buehler's stuff. The electricity flows into the strikeout numbers -- he has at least seven in each of his three postseason starts, including seven in 4 2/3 innings of one-run baseball in the Game 7 win that clinched the National League pennant for the Dodgers. But in Game 3 of the World Series at Dodger Stadium on Friday, he'll face a Red Sox offense that's unlike the Braves, or the Brewers, or really any team in Major League Baseball. Boston's lineup is going to pose a unique challenge for the 24-year-old flamethrower, for one big reason: The Red Sox crush high velocity. Highest team xwOBA vs. 96-plus-mph fastballs in the 2018 regular season 1. Red Sox: .360 2. Nationals: .336 3. Dodgers: .335 4. Cardinals: .324 5. Blue Jays: .323 19. Braves: .292 (Buehler's NLDS opponent) 22. Brewers: .287 (Buehler's NLCS opponent) League xwOBA vs. 96-plus mph fastballs: .302 The Red Sox also rarely swung and missed, even against fastballs at that high velocity. They whiffed on only 18.7 percent of their swings against 96-plus mph fastballs, the second-lowest rate of any team. That could make a big difference against a strikeout-oriented pitcher such as Buehler, who got 88 of his 151 strikeouts on fastballs during the regular season -- and has gotten 16 of his 22 postseason strikeouts -- nearly 75 percent -- on fastballs. I expect a huge percentage of curves from Buehler. Whether he can throw it for strikes will probably be the key to the game. He does throw the fastball a little more than 50% of the time, but if the Dodgers have a clue they'll have him pitch "backwards" - that is, leading with the breaking balls first time through to get strike 1 rather than the fast ball.
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Post by michael on Oct 26, 2018 14:13:35 GMT -5
Here's why Boston is poised to hit BuehlerThere's no questioning Walker Buehler's stuff. The electricity flows into the strikeout numbers -- he has at least seven in each of his three postseason starts, including seven in 4 2/3 innings of one-run baseball in the Game 7 win that clinched the National League pennant for the Dodgers. But in Game 3 of the World Series at Dodger Stadium on Friday, he'll face a Red Sox offense that's unlike the Braves, or the Brewers, or really any team in Major League Baseball. Boston's lineup is going to pose a unique challenge for the 24-year-old flamethrower, for one big reason: The Red Sox crush high velocity. Highest team xwOBA vs. 96-plus-mph fastballs in the 2018 regular season 1. Red Sox: .360 2. Nationals: .336 3. Dodgers: .335 4. Cardinals: .324 5. Blue Jays: .323 19. Braves: .292 (Buehler's NLDS opponent) 22. Brewers: .287 (Buehler's NLCS opponent) League xwOBA vs. 96-plus mph fastballs: .302 The Red Sox also rarely swung and missed, even against fastballs at that high velocity. They whiffed on only 18.7 percent of their swings against 96-plus mph fastballs, the second-lowest rate of any team. That could make a big difference against a strikeout-oriented pitcher such as Buehler, who got 88 of his 151 strikeouts on fastballs during the regular season -- and has gotten 16 of his 22 postseason strikeouts -- nearly 75 percent -- on fastballs. I expect a huge percentage of curves from Buehler. Whether he can throw it for strikes will probably be the key to the game. Jimed, are these numbers inclusive of both right and left handed pitchers?
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Post by Oregon Norm on Oct 26, 2018 14:15:44 GMT -5
That fastball comes in at 97, usually at the knees. He's got some stuff. Combine it with those breaking pitches and - if he's on - it will be a real test.
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Post by jimed14 on Oct 26, 2018 14:16:09 GMT -5
Here's why Boston is poised to hit BuehlerThere's no questioning Walker Buehler's stuff. The electricity flows into the strikeout numbers -- he has at least seven in each of his three postseason starts, including seven in 4 2/3 innings of one-run baseball in the Game 7 win that clinched the National League pennant for the Dodgers. But in Game 3 of the World Series at Dodger Stadium on Friday, he'll face a Red Sox offense that's unlike the Braves, or the Brewers, or really any team in Major League Baseball. Boston's lineup is going to pose a unique challenge for the 24-year-old flamethrower, for one big reason: The Red Sox crush high velocity. Highest team xwOBA vs. 96-plus-mph fastballs in the 2018 regular season 1. Red Sox: .360 2. Nationals: .336 3. Dodgers: .335 4. Cardinals: .324 5. Blue Jays: .323 19. Braves: .292 (Buehler's NLDS opponent) 22. Brewers: .287 (Buehler's NLCS opponent) League xwOBA vs. 96-plus mph fastballs: .302 The Red Sox also rarely swung and missed, even against fastballs at that high velocity. They whiffed on only 18.7 percent of their swings against 96-plus mph fastballs, the second-lowest rate of any team. That could make a big difference against a strikeout-oriented pitcher such as Buehler, who got 88 of his 151 strikeouts on fastballs during the regular season -- and has gotten 16 of his 22 postseason strikeouts -- nearly 75 percent -- on fastballs. I expect a huge percentage of curves from Buehler. Whether he can throw it for strikes will probably be the key to the game. Jimed, are these numbers inclusive of both right and left handed pitchers? Probably since they don't specify. But they also hit RHP quite well. They're from the link at the top.
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Post by Guidas on Oct 26, 2018 14:47:58 GMT -5
Excerpt from a scouting report in The Athletic on tonight’s homeplet ump, Ted Barrett. His replay overturn rate would be much-much higher if they could review close ball and strike calls, especially against LHH:
Game 3: Ted Barrett Barrett, a 25-year veteran, will be the crew chief for his fourth World Series, the last two of which have gone seven games (2011 and 2014). His strike calls typically go beyond the borders of the rulebook strike zone.
By SIS measures, Barrett called 28 percent of taken pitches off the plate, but within two inches of a strike zone edge a strike. That’s four percentage points above the MLB average and ninth-highest among umpires this season. Most notable tendencies: With left-handed batters, Barrett has called more strikes than most umpires on pitches at the bottom of the strike zone, especially those on (or just off) the outside corner. In fact, Barrett’s tendency to call pitches just off the edges for lefty batters is highest in MLB.
Also important: Though Barrett usually calls strikes with regularity, he’s lighter than most umps on checked-swing calls. If a hitter checks his swing with Barrett behind the plate, he’s called it a strike 12 percent of the time. That ranks in the bottom 10 in MLB. Lastly, Barrett has been overturned by replay review on 19 of 52 calls in the last three seasons (37 percent). That’s the fifth-lowest rate among umpires.
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Post by KB24 on Oct 26, 2018 14:52:38 GMT -5
Excerpt from a scouting report in The Athletic on tonight’s homeplet ump, Ted Barrett. His replay overturn rate would be much-much higher if they could review close ball and strike calls, especially against LHH: Game 3: Ted Barrett Barrett, a 25-year veteran, will be the crew chief for his fourth World Series, the last two of which have gone seven games (2011 and 2014). His strike calls typically go beyond the borders of the rulebook strike zone. By SIS measures, Barrett called 28 percent of taken pitches off the plate, but within two inches of a strike zone edge a strike. That’s four percentage points above the MLB average and ninth-highest among umpires this season. Most notable tendencies: With left-handed batters, Barrett has called more strikes than most umpires on pitches at the bottom of the strike zone, especially those on (or just off) the outside corner. In fact, Barrett’s tendency to call pitches just off the edges for lefty batters is highest in MLB. Also important: Though Barrett usually calls strikes with regularity, he’s lighter than most umps on checked-swing calls. If a hitter checks his swing with Barrett behind the plate, he’s called it a strike 12 percent of the time. That ranks in the bottom 10 in MLB. Lastly, Barrett has been overturned by replay review on 19 of 52 calls in the last three seasons (37 percent). That’s the fifth-lowest rate among umpires. Not a bad pitcher to have on the mound then. Based on this, Porcello should be pounding the bottom part of the zone with the tailing two seamer all night.
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Post by orion09 on Oct 26, 2018 15:01:05 GMT -5
Excerpt from a scouting report in The Athletic on tonight’s homeplet ump, Ted Barrett. His replay overturn rate would be much-much higher if they could review close ball and strike calls, especially against LHH: Game 3: Ted Barrett Barrett, a 25-year veteran, will be the crew chief for his fourth World Series, the last two of which have gone seven games (2011 and 2014). His strike calls typically go beyond the borders of the rulebook strike zone. By SIS measures, Barrett called 28 percent of taken pitches off the plate, but within two inches of a strike zone edge a strike. That’s four percentage points above the MLB average and ninth-highest among umpires this season. Most notable tendencies: With left-handed batters, Barrett has called more strikes than most umpires on pitches at the bottom of the strike zone, especially those on (or just off) the outside corner. In fact, Barrett’s tendency to call pitches just off the edges for lefty batters is highest in MLB. Also important: Though Barrett usually calls strikes with regularity, he’s lighter than most umps on checked-swing calls. If a hitter checks his swing with Barrett behind the plate, he’s called it a strike 12 percent of the time. That ranks in the bottom 10 in MLB. Lastly, Barrett has been overturned by replay review on 19 of 52 calls in the last three seasons (37 percent). That’s the fifth-lowest rate among umpires. In my mind, at least, there’s a definite correlation between “games in which Rick Porcello is dominant” and “games in which Rick Porcello gets borderline strikes on the front door sinker to lefties.”
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Post by klostrophobic on Oct 26, 2018 15:09:56 GMT -5
Wow, I like Machado now. Very strange feeling.
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