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Red Sox vs. Dodgers 2018 World Series Gameday Thread
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Oct 26, 2018 6:25:52 GMT -5
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Oct 26, 2018 7:46:48 GMT -5
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Oct 26, 2018 8:15:56 GMT -5
So far so good. That was the best I've seen the Red Sox bullpen look all year. Whatever they did with Joe Kelly, I really, really like. Kimbrel was pumping in strikes as well. With Eovaldi doing rover duty those three relievers resembled the Nasty Boys. Very impressive. Now comes the big test. They don't necessarily have to ace it (win twice, although if they do I won't argue , but they have to pass it, which would be to win 1 of the 3 games in LA and give them 2 shots in Boston. And job well done by the Sox at home to put themselves in this position! Feel like we haven't really seen the Dodgers yet. The best part of the lineup has spent most of the game on the bench and then coming in ice cold. As every other Sox fan I love Dave Roberts, but his managing has been too by the numbers. It was obvious Baez was dealing during Game 1, but taking him out made no sense. And the continued use of Madson as his Heath Hembree. Contrast that with Cora using Barnes in a key spot in the 5th inning of Game 1. I think we see the real Dodgers tonight. A good young pitcher who could be a future ace, who's pretty good right now and a lineup that should match up well against Porcello, and an advantage that the Sox have to go away from one of their strengths, either lose 1/3 of the spectacular outfield defense or sit down the scariest bat in the lineup. I suspect with JDM's ankle as it is Cora won't want to risk making it worse and that he'll go with the outfield defense and save JDM to pinch-hit. Then he'll hope that JDM can play outfield Game 4 and Game 5 if necessary (hope it's not!!!!). Urias and Baez are the two relievers leading up to Jansen that are intimidating. The rest of the bullpen is hittable. Meanwhile I wonder if Cora's strategy of seize today and worry about tomorrow will come back and bite them in Game 4. I was hoping that Eovaldi would be the Game 3 starter so he'd be rested and lined up for a Game 7 start. As it is, it's Porcello, a flyball pitcher who doesn't have plus stuff, and isn't the guy I'd want starting a game like that. If the Sox don't win today, then they have a big fight on their hands because who knows how much Eovaldi will have in the tank to start Game 4? And would he be able on short rest to pitch effectively as a starter in Game 7? I don't think Cora is thinking like that - and given his results, who is to say he's incorrect? NOBODY right now. If they do have to use Eovadi to win Game 3 - and I agree here with Cora - use him if you must, then in Game 4, I would start E-Rod, see if Roberts does the kneejerk thing and starts his less than lethal RH hitting lineup. Either way, if the Sox could somehow pull off tonight's game they'd be sitting pretty and that would leave the Dodgers extremely deflated. It's not going to be easy, particularly if JDM isn't in the lineup, so Betts will have to be his MVP self, and they'll need contributions from guys like Moreland, Devers, and Xander. I'm guessing that Kinsler stays in the lineup so they can deploy Brock Holt when needed. I figure they'd have Holt on the bench to be the primary LH PH while they'd have a ton of PH options from the RH side including JDM, their primary option, and other guys like Pearce, Nunez, and even Swihart (a functional bench - how about that!) Here's hoping that the 8 day rest does Porcello a lot of good - it's probably the most rest he's had all year.
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Post by nomar on Oct 26, 2018 8:20:49 GMT -5
I actually like Porcello pitching away. When he gets beat it's typically the longball that hurts him, and the bigger ballpark may give him a bit more wiggle room. The Dodgers are cold pretty much across the board. Just limit the BBs and you could give a quality start much easier than the first 2 series of the postseason.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Oct 26, 2018 8:31:05 GMT -5
I wonder if the left handed batters for the Dodgers are better defenders than their right handed lineup. They were pretty bed in the 2nd game, horrible in the first game.
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Oct 26, 2018 8:42:31 GMT -5
How do we feel about today's game? LA is -150 and I think that seems about right. Porcello has been just OK this post season and Buehler has been their best pitcher. We could really use the Rick Porcello who threw a complete game against the Yankees...
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Post by nomar on Oct 26, 2018 8:52:37 GMT -5
I wonder if the left handed batters for the Dodgers are better defenders than their right handed lineup. They were pretty bed in the 2nd game, horrible in the first game. Bellinger is a great defender, but Freese isn't bad himself so I wouldn't expect them to be all too much better tonight defensively. Joc and Taylor are a wash.
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Post by huskies15 on Oct 26, 2018 8:55:58 GMT -5
I feel good about today. This team has just straight gotten the job done all post-season. I'd favor the Dodgers a bit tonight, but the Red Sox do seem like they're prepped to step on the throat.
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Oct 26, 2018 9:04:43 GMT -5
I hope we don't see León, that'd be brutal with the pitcher batting as well.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Oct 26, 2018 9:08:54 GMT -5
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Oct 26, 2018 9:17:00 GMT -5
I hope we don't see León, that'd be brutal with the pitcher batting as well. .429/.429/.714 ain't so bad.
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Post by jimed14 on Oct 26, 2018 9:20:06 GMT -5
I wouldn't be surprised to see Cora try to get Roberts to take out his LHH early by using Pomeranz and ERod. What if they actually just use Porcello as an opener?
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Post by Guidas on Oct 26, 2018 9:34:06 GMT -5
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Post by Guidas on Oct 26, 2018 9:36:57 GMT -5
I wouldn't be surprised to see Cora try to get Roberts to take out his LHH early by using Pomeranz and ERod. What if they actually just use Porcello as an opener? I'm wondering with all the heat and down 2-0 he sticks with his LH stars even if Sox did that. Could be wrong. I don't see how you keep Bellinger in particular out of this line-up.
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Post by ematz1423 on Oct 26, 2018 9:43:42 GMT -5
I wouldn't be surprised to see Cora try to get Roberts to take out his LHH early by using Pomeranz and ERod. What if they actually just use Porcello as an opener? I'm wondering with all the heat and down 2-0 he sticks with his LH stars even if Sox did that. Could be wrong. I don't see how you keep Bellinger in particular out of this line-up. May have read too much in to what Roberts was saying in his press conference but it did sound to me like if there was another lefty going for the Sox that he would have went with that same righty only lineup. He said something along the lines of those guys will be in there but not because of the results of the last two games but because of the matchup with Porcello being a righty. Also if they were using anybody as an opener I would think they would have taken a page out of the Brewers book and went with E-Rod or Pomeranz as the opener and went to Porcello quickly.
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Post by Guidas on Oct 26, 2018 9:45:52 GMT -5
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Oct 26, 2018 9:47:44 GMT -5
I'm wondering with all the heat and down 2-0 he sticks with his LH stars even if Sox did that. Could be wrong. I don't see how you keep Bellinger in particular out of this line-up. May have read too much in to what Roberts was saying in his press conference but it did sound to me like if there was another lefty going for the Sox that he would have went with that same righty only lineup. He said something along the lines of those guys will be in there but not because of the results of the last two games but because of the matchup with Porcello being a righty. Also if they were using anybody as an opener I would think they would have taken a page out of the Brewers book and went with E-Rod or Pomeranz as the opener and went to Porcello quickly. Can't figure out why Roberts wouldn't use Muncy against lefties. His numbers are great against lefties. Bellinger's numbers against lefties aren't great, but he's not helpless against them the way Pederson is. If they need to, E-Rod as a starter in Game 4 makes sense, or better yet, perhaps as a piggyback starter to Eovaldi as I can't imagine that Eovaldi would be able to throw a lot of pitches as a starter.
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Post by huskies15 on Oct 26, 2018 10:15:28 GMT -5
The whole hoopla about sign stealing is weird. It's literally a part of the game and thats why everything is coded. Growing up it was awesome when I could figure out the signs from their coaches or catchers. So Machado was wise enough to figure it out, go change the signals again. Sign stealing, if done organically and not through nefarious means, is a non-story to me.
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Post by fenwaydouble on Oct 26, 2018 10:17:03 GMT -5
Eh, Machado is the worst, but I don't really have a problem with this. It's not even against the rules, right? This is why they even HAVE elaborate signs.
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Post by Canseco on Oct 26, 2018 10:21:30 GMT -5
Eh, Machado is the worst, but I don't really have a problem with this. It's not even against the rules, right? This is why they even HAVE elaborate signs. I get that, but it just seems this type of questionable, bush league-bordering behavior follows Machado. It’s very similar to a lot of the nickel-and-dime crap utilized by A-Rod. It compounds and gets old quickly.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Oct 26, 2018 10:25:53 GMT -5
Eh, Machado is the worst, but I don't really have a problem with this. It's not even against the rules, right? This is why they even HAVE elaborate signs. I get that, but it just seems this type of questionable, bush league-bordering behavior follows Machado. It’s very similar to a lot of the nickel-and-dime crap utilized by A-Rod. It compounds and gets old quickly. Machado does plenty of bush league things, but stealing signs isn't one of them. I can't imagine it's not like the Red Sox don't try to steal signs the old fashioned way themselves. They certainly has Luis Severino's pitches down in Game 3 of the ALDS. Nothing nefarious about that. Same thing here with Machado. The Sox simply have to and probably already have altered their signs.
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Post by Guidas on Oct 26, 2018 10:35:39 GMT -5
The whole hoopla about sign stealing is weird. It's literally a part of the game and thats why everything is coded. Growing up it was awesome when I could figure out the signs from their coaches or catchers. So Machado was wise enough to figure it out, go change the signals again. Sign stealing, if done organically and not through nefarious means, is a non-story to me. Agree.
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Post by jimed14 on Oct 26, 2018 11:07:39 GMT -5
I'm surprised he has the mental capacity to do that. The way he tries to defend some of his behavior makes him sound like a complete moron. Just saying "hustling to first base isn't my game" and thinking that anyone will buy that?
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Post by jimed14 on Oct 26, 2018 11:11:04 GMT -5
I get that, but it just seems this type of questionable, bush league-bordering behavior follows Machado. It’s very similar to a lot of the nickel-and-dime crap utilized by A-Rod. It compounds and gets old quickly. Machado does plenty of bush league things, but stealing signs isn't one of them. I can't imagine it's not like the Red Sox don't try to steal signs the old fashioned way themselves. They certainly has Luis Severino's pitches down in Game 3 of the ALDS. Nothing nefarious about that. Same thing here with Machado. The Sox simply have to and probably already have altered their signs. They alter their signs continually. Keeping their signs straight is a necessary skill for pitchers and catchers now because it would be quite easy to screw it up as we've seen at times.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Oct 26, 2018 11:22:34 GMT -5
How do we feel about today's game? LA is -150 and I think that seems about right. Porcello has been just OK this post season and Buehler has been their best pitcher. We could really use the Rick Porcello who threw a complete game against the Yankees... Tell me if JDM is playing and healthy enough to play, then I will like the Sox chances better.
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