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Post by jimed14 on Feb 28, 2019 16:16:08 GMT -5
He's absolutely known for his patience. Second in the system in walks last year, behind only Ockimey. Arguably I'd say he's too patient, getting into too many pitcher's counts, which is part of the reason the strikeouts are so high. I wonder if his time in spring training with JDM and Pedey and others will help be a bit more aggressive with his pitch and/or in nhis zone earlier in the count this year. That might be big deal for him - if he can strike the right balance. Pedroia is terrible about that though. He has taken strike one right down the middle of the plate for his entire career.
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Post by James Dunne on Feb 28, 2019 16:28:44 GMT -5
Six years later and "let's make something out of what Jackie Bradley is doing in spring training" is still happening.
I love the dude too, but let's not do this ever again.
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Post by maxwellsdemon on Feb 28, 2019 16:38:43 GMT -5
Besides we've got Michael Chavis now
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Post by jimed14 on Feb 28, 2019 16:40:36 GMT -5
Six years later and "let's make something out of what Jackie Bradley is doing in spring training" is still happening. I love the dude too, but let's not do this ever again. He's the kind of guy who is so close to being a perennial All-Star. We've seen him when he's hot. He just has to get rid of the long cold streaks. He has way more unrealized potential than anyone I can remember. I could see him having a 2011 Ellsbury year one of these years. The guy hits 440 foot home runs with ease. But then he loses his swing and it takes him too long finding it again. He might finally be beyond that based on working with JDM's coach and his influence. I'll never give up on getting excited about him. His swing looks better than it ever has. I made a joke when I saw it and said that he's the next JDM, but I wasn't completely joking.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Feb 28, 2019 16:46:42 GMT -5
Six years later and "let's make something out of what Jackie Bradley is doing in spring training" is still happening. I love the dude too, but let's not do this ever again. I think the excitement about JBJ is that he sustained a solid second half, worked on his swing all winter long (interesting to hear him say that he had been doing things all wrong mechanically all of his career), and I think it's reasonable to be bullish on him this season, and if is at least who he was in the second half last year, that's a guy that you can move up from the #9 spot in the order at least and if he can break out then you drop Moreland down in the order and move up JBJ, which is what I'm hoping for.
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Post by greatscottcooper on Feb 28, 2019 17:34:02 GMT -5
I have zero doubt in my mind that JBJ is going to have a month this year that is going to make him look like an MVP, and he's going to have another month where he barely avg's above .100.
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Post by James Dunne on Feb 28, 2019 19:13:26 GMT -5
He's the kind of guy who is so close to being a perennial All-Star. We've seen him when he's hot. He just has to get rid of the long cold streaks. He has way more unrealized potential than anyone I can remember. I could see him having a 2011 Ellsbury year one of these years. The guy hits 440 foot home runs with ease. But then he loses his swing and it takes him too long finding it again. He might finally be beyond that based on working with JDM's coach and his influence. I'll never give up on getting excited about him. His swing looks better than it ever has. I made a joke when I saw it and said that he's the next JDM, but I wasn't completely joking. I think it's more likely his best case is a career arc something more like Dwight Evans', though with less overall value - he finally puts together the offensive potential and develops some consistency in his 30's just as his defensive value is starting to slip. And like I said, I love Bradley and totally get why people can be hyped on him. But it's just funny that people are getting excited about his spring training performance. Jackie Bradley is THE cautionary tale about getting excited for spring training performance. He got onto most people's radar (not here, obviously... I'm talking those plebians who don't follow SoxProspects) with a ridiculous spring training performance that got the Red Sox to foolishly carry him on the major league team.
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Post by dd on Feb 28, 2019 19:23:57 GMT -5
I have zero doubt in my mind that JBJ is going to have a month this year that is going to make him look like an MVP, and he's going to have another month where he barely avg's above .100. {dislike} It could be true, it could happen, but I just don't want to think about it. He's still my favorite player. So, BOOOOO!!
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Post by sarasoxer on Feb 28, 2019 21:49:14 GMT -5
He's the kind of guy who is so close to being a perennial All-Star. We've seen him when he's hot. He just has to get rid of the long cold streaks. He has way more unrealized potential than anyone I can remember. I could see him having a 2011 Ellsbury year one of these years. The guy hits 440 foot home runs with ease. But then he loses his swing and it takes him too long finding it again. He might finally be beyond that based on working with JDM's coach and his influence. I'll never give up on getting excited about him. His swing looks better than it ever has. I made a joke when I saw it and said that he's the next JDM, but I wasn't completely joking. I think it's more likely his best case is a career arc something more like Dwight Evans', though with less overall value - he finally puts together the offensive potential and develops some consistency in his 30's just as his defensive value is starting to slip. And like I said, I love Bradley and totally get why people can be hyped on him. But it's just funny that people are getting excited about his spring training performance. Jackie Bradley is THE cautionary tale about getting excited for spring training performance. He got onto most people's radar (not here, obviously... I'm talking those plebians who don't follow SoxProspects) with a ridiculous spring training performance that got the Red Sox to foolishly carry him on the major league team. The fact that Bradley has had absurdly hot streaks in the past says to me that he has that talent innately. He practiced with a guru over the winter and altered his swing. Even with rolling over at a high % in the past, he still had a high average exit velocity. I think this guy is transforming before our eyes. I, for one, expect a quantum offensive leap here. Hopefully that offsets likely declines from Martinez and Betts. If Pedey comes back near his historical numbers and the catchers come closer to norms, it could offset bullpen loss. Devers is likely to be better....(why does he continue to swing so hard and so unnecesserily?)
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Post by mobaz on Mar 1, 2019 7:47:14 GMT -5
We are 4 months out from an amazing WS win. It's spring training. Snow is still on the ground. Yes we can have Jackie Bradley for MVP convos right now! Why not? This is his year!
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Post by greatscottcooper on Mar 1, 2019 10:20:17 GMT -5
I have zero doubt in my mind that JBJ is going to have a month this year that is going to make him look like an MVP, and he's going to have another month where he barely avg's above .100. {dislike} It could be true, it could happen, but I just don't want to think about it. He's still my favorite player. So, BOOOOO!! I love JBJ. Right now I'd happily take the good with the bad. This line up is good enough to bury him for his glove, and they're that much better when he's on. I also don't fully discount his ability to reduce his valleys and prolong his hills. I think he's always going to be a streaky hitter but I think he has it in him to do that enough to become an all star caliber player for a few years. He's 28 years old, and his best seasons could easily be the next 3-4.
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Post by soxfansince67 on Mar 1, 2019 10:20:58 GMT -5
Today's line up
Josh Taylor LHP 0-0, 0.00 ERA, 0 SO Tzu-Wei Lin (L) CF Eduardo Nunez (R) SS Rafael Devers (L) 3B Gorkys Hernandez (R) RF Sandy Leon (S) C Sam Travis (R) LF Bryce Brentz (R) DH Michael Chavis (R) 1B Tony Renda (R) 2B
Devers, Travis, Brentz and Chavis the hightlights of this one for me.
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Post by gerry on Mar 1, 2019 12:18:50 GMT -5
Today's line up Josh Taylor LHP 0-0, 0.00 ERA, 0 SO Tzu-Wei Lin (L) CF Eduardo Nunez (R) SS Rafael Devers (L) 3B Gorkys Hernandez (R) RF Sandy Leon (S) C Sam Travis (R) LF Bryce Brentz (R) DH Michael Chavis (R) 1B Tony Renda (R) 2B Devers, Travis, Brentz and Chavis the hightlights of this one for me. Agree, and on the other end, am glad Lin, Renda and Gorkys are getting good looks. Rend’s slash lines, speed and decent glove make me think he may be more valuable than just one game at Fenway.
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Post by Oregon Norm on Mar 1, 2019 12:46:38 GMT -5
I don't think Renda and Hernandez belong in the same conversation as Lin. The latter is guaranteed to see a lot of time on the field for the Sox this year. The other two are 4A filler and not much more. Neither can carry Lin's bat despite the fact he's barely put any wear on it.
Add: Just read through the Fort Report and found out that Dalbec has yet to strike out this spring! That... is real news.
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Post by jimed14 on Mar 1, 2019 12:55:40 GMT -5
I don't think Renda and Hernandez belong in the same conversation as Lin. The latter is guaranteed to see a lot of time on the field for the Sox this year. The other two are 4A filler and not much more. Neither can carry Lin's bat despite the fact he's barely put any wear on it. Add: Just read through the Fort Report and found out that Dalbec has yet to strike out this spring! That... is real news. Dalbec did strike out yesterday, but he's sitting at 5 walks, 1 hbp and 1 k in 13 plate appearances. That doesn't include the game against BU.
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Post by gerry on Mar 1, 2019 13:19:45 GMT -5
I don't think Renda and Hernandez belong in the same conversation as Lin. The latter is guaranteed to see a lot of time on the field for the Sox this year. The other two are 4A filler and not much more. Neither can carry Lin's bat despite the fact he's barely put any wear on it. Add: Just read through the Fort Report and found out that Dalbec has yet to strike out this spring! That... is real news. Agree about Lin’s value and suspect he finally comes up to fill Nunez’ spot on the 25-man for 2020. His bat, defense, speed and contract all contribute to that value; and playing CF enhances that value. But I think there is more to Renda, even in an up and down role, than we have had a chance to see yet. So I am glad he is getting in these games. And having Brentz and Gorkys available for 4th-5th OF has its own merits. The more these guys succeed in ST, the more confident I will feel about low cost, positive contributions to Sox OF and IF depth in 2019. The deeper the better. And speaking of depth, good call on Dalbec.
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Post by jimed14 on Mar 1, 2019 13:22:40 GMT -5
Chavis made an error at 1b, trying to rush a ground ball, but then made a really nice play to start a 3-6-3 double play to make up for it.
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Post by jimed14 on Mar 1, 2019 13:33:33 GMT -5
Josh Taylor looks about 10 times better than Robbie Scott as a LOOGY. Maybe he's not even a LOOGY, given that he's throwing 94. I think I've looked him up 3 times this spring so far after watching him pitch a few pitches. Just needs to cut the walks a little more and he looks like a major league pitcher.
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Post by jimed14 on Mar 1, 2019 14:01:33 GMT -5
Wow, Sandy Leon just pulled a line drive HR to RF.
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Post by jimed14 on Mar 1, 2019 15:13:49 GMT -5
Brentz just mishit a bomb to CF. Looked like a pop fly but still went that far.
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Post by telson13 on Mar 1, 2019 23:58:33 GMT -5
Six years later and "let's make something out of what Jackie Bradley is doing in spring training" is still happening. I love the dude too, but let's not do this ever again. I think the excitement about JBJ is that he sustained a solid second half, worked on his swing all winter long (interesting to hear him say that he had been doing things all wrong mechanically all of his career), and I think it's reasonable to be bullish on him this season, and if is at least who he was in the second half last year, that's a guy that you can move up from the #9 spot in the order at least and if he can break out then you drop Moreland down in the order and move up JBJ, which is what I'm hoping for. With the way he gets on base, and plus baserunning, yeah...if he’s who he was in the second half (and as you mention there’s plenty of reason to be optimistic), he’s an outside threat to take the 3 spot. If he’s finally figured it out and puts up an 0.850 OPS (again, I’m optimistic...his performance/results coincide nicely with his swing adjustments), JBJ is going to be a helluvan addition to the top of the order. I’m very bullish...he got results last year that passed the eyeball test (more LD/fewer GB in the second half, consistent hard contact); his results going oppo or CF are outstanding...I think he’s got another step to take this year, where the consistency shows up. 3HR and 13 2b in just 70 PA when hitting the ball to left. If there’s anybody (and as jimed said, he has pretty big power for a little guy) who could benefit from looking more like JDM approach-wise, Jackie’s it. He’ll pepper the monster, I think. He also hits the ball hard enough that he should get more than his share of Fenway “cheapies” on lazy flies.
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Post by soxfansince67 on Mar 2, 2019 9:50:57 GMT -5
Here's a fun line up - today's game - Mookie! JBJ! J. D. Martinez!!!!!!!!! Xander, and Dalbec.
Brian Johnson LHP 0-0, 4.50 ERA, 2 SO
Gorkys Hernandez (R) LF Mookie Betts (R) RF Jackie Bradley Jr. (L) CF J.D. Martinez (R) DH Xander Bogaerts (R) SS Brock Holt (L) 2B Eduardo Nunez (R) 3B Christian Vazquez (R) C Bobby Dalbec (R) 1B
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Post by rjp313jr on Mar 2, 2019 11:04:30 GMT -5
I think the excitement about JBJ is that he sustained a solid second half, worked on his swing all winter long (interesting to hear him say that he had been doing things all wrong mechanically all of his career), and I think it's reasonable to be bullish on him this season, and if is at least who he was in the second half last year, that's a guy that you can move up from the #9 spot in the order at least and if he can break out then you drop Moreland down in the order and move up JBJ, which is what I'm hoping for. With the way he gets on base, and plus baserunning, yeah...if he’s who he was in the second half (and as you mention there’s plenty of reason to be optimistic), he’s an outside threat to take the 3 spot. If he’s finally figured it out and puts up an 0.850 OPS (again, I’m optimistic...his performance/results coincide nicely with his swing adjustments), JBJ is going to be a helluvan addition to the top of the order. I’m very bullish...he got results last year that passed the eyeball test (more LD/fewer GB in the second half, consistent hard contact); his results going oppo or CF are outstanding...I think he’s got another step to take this year, where the consistency shows up. 3HR and 13 2b in just 70 PA when hitting the ball to left. If there’s anybody (and as jimed said, he has pretty big power for a little guy) who could benefit from looking more like JDM approach-wise, Jackie’s it. He’ll pepper the monster, I think. He also hits the ball hard enough that he should get more than his share of Fenway “cheapies” on lazy flies. He’d have to take more than another step to get to where you want him...
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Post by soxfansince67 on Mar 2, 2019 13:36:04 GMT -5
Brewer...seems like a nibbler, not hitting the plate much yet. Still early in the spring though of course
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Mar 2, 2019 14:28:27 GMT -5
JD looks horrendous out there. DFA !!
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