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4/19-4/21 Red Sox @ Rays Series Thread
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Post by James Dunne on Apr 19, 2019 7:48:55 GMT -5
4/19 Red Sox (LHP Eduardo Rodriguez 1-2, 7.98, 14.2 IP, 15K:6BB) @ Rays (RHP Ryne Stanek** 0-0, 1.93, 9.1 IP, 13K:2BB) 7:10 pm ET, NESN/WEEI 4/20 Red Sox (RHP Rick Porcello 0-3, 11.12, 11.1 IP, 10K:12BB) @ Rays (RHP Charlie Morton 2-0, 2.18, 20.2 IP, 25K:10BB) 6:10 pm ET, NESN/WEEI 4/21 Red Sox (LHP David Price 1-1, 3.79, 19.0 IP, 20K:3BB) @ Rays (RHP Tyler Glasnow 4-0, 1.13, 24.0 IP, 24K:3BB) 2:10 pm ET, NESN/WEEI **Stanek will serve as opener: Ryan Yarbrough or Jalen Beeks likely to follow. MLB StandingsRed Sox Hitting StatsRed Sox Pitching StatsMLB ScoreboardMLB TransactionsA note regarding moderating of the gameday threads in 2019: As the disclaimer has always said, in the past, we have been very liberal in moderating the Gameday threads. They're meant to be a lot less formal than other threads on the forum, so to moderate them the same way would be silly. However, we do ask posters to maintain a certain level of decorum in these threads, and we plan on moderating the Gameday threads a little more actively this season. In particular, we ask that posters refrain from being overly repetitive with their posts (if you've made your point, let it go), refrain from monopolizing the discussion (if you are making more than a couple posts in a row, you probably need to slow down a little bit), and of course, follow the Ground Rules ( link). The point is to make these threads worth participating in and fun for all posters, from our long-time fixtures to people just signing up today. -The Management
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Post by chrisfromnc on Apr 19, 2019 8:11:53 GMT -5
Well...one hopes that the offense is due to start breaking out. Unfortunately that hasn't happened so far against pitchers who haven't been throwing as well as the Rays' staff has been. It could be a tough series. I haven't really seen much of Beeks since the trade so I will be interested to see how he is throwing. Karma would seem to indicate he will throw like four scoreless innings.
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Apr 19, 2019 8:34:20 GMT -5
I believe this series is the season, which is crazy given that it's April 19th.
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Post by Costigan on Apr 19, 2019 11:28:26 GMT -5
It's Chavis and Lin time!
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Post by James Dunne on Apr 19, 2019 11:31:18 GMT -5
Lemme bury the lede here and go on record saying that DFAing Ramirez rather than just optioning Brewer or cutting Thornburg is pretty dumb.
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Apr 19, 2019 11:46:25 GMT -5
Lemme bury the lede here and go on record saying that DFAing Ramirez rather than just optioning Brewer or cutting Thornburg is pretty dumb. Dombrowksi is determined to get value out of Thornburg.
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Post by kevfc89 on Apr 19, 2019 11:58:15 GMT -5
Chavis
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Post by cdj on Apr 19, 2019 11:58:54 GMT -5
Lemme bury the lede here and go on record saying that DFAing Ramirez rather than just optioning Brewer or cutting Thornburg is pretty dumb. Agree as far as preserving depth goes but erasmo really does nothing for me. It’s been a blood bath for him against major league hitters lately. Tater city Excited about Chavis and Lin though. I actually feel as if they are possibly the two best 2B they have (which isn’t saying much considering Chavis has played 2B for about 5 seconds)
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Post by Don Caballero on Apr 19, 2019 12:00:16 GMT -5
Lemme bury the lede here and go on record saying that DFAing Ramirez rather than just optioning Brewer or cutting Thornburg is pretty dumb. Do we really want to keep Erasmo?
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Post by James Dunne on Apr 19, 2019 12:02:41 GMT -5
Lemme bury the lede here and go on record saying that DFAing Ramirez rather than just optioning Brewer or cutting Thornburg is pretty dumb. Do we really want to keep Erasmo? Yeah, I've always liked him, even before the Red Sox signed him. Not outstanding or anything, but as depth he's too good to be purchased for one mop-up outing and then DFA'd. If they weren't going to keep whoever they were calling up, they just should've gone with Shepherd. Or someone with options, since there's room on the 40-man. Maybe Erasmo clears (it's probably 50/50) but to me it's not worth the risk.
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Post by incandenza on Apr 19, 2019 12:02:55 GMT -5
Well, Nunez going on the IL ought to help the team at least.
So is Chavis our 2B for this series? That's a little bit into the fire...
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Post by humanbeingbean on Apr 19, 2019 12:04:18 GMT -5
Let’s hope Cora actually lets Chavis play and doesn’t have him ride pine too much. They have nothing to lose by letting him loose and seeing how he does in the starting lineup - Lin should be on the bench.
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Post by kevfc89 on Apr 19, 2019 12:06:19 GMT -5
Well, Nunez going on the IL ought to help the team at least. So is Chavis our 2B for this series? That's a little bit into the fire... if Benny is still out, maybe they have JD in the outfield, Lin at second, Chavis at DH? idk
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Post by Don Caballero on Apr 19, 2019 12:10:38 GMT -5
Yeah, I've always liked him, even before the Red Sox signed him. Not outstanding or anything, but as depth he's too good to be purchased for one mop-up outing and then DFA'd. If they weren't going to keep whoever they were calling up, they just should've gone with Shepherd. Or someone with options, since there's room on the 40-man. Maybe Erasmo clears (it's probably 50/50) but to me it's not worth the risk. That's fair. I didn't see enough to form an opinion one way or the other and I do think it's pretty bad he was used in that situation to begin with. They have been strikingly bad with these smaller moves for quite a while now, it's so weird.
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Post by James Dunne on Apr 19, 2019 12:13:32 GMT -5
Yeah, I've always liked him, even before the Red Sox signed him. Not outstanding or anything, but as depth he's too good to be purchased for one mop-up outing and then DFA'd. If they weren't going to keep whoever they were calling up, they just should've gone with Shepherd. Or someone with options, since there's room on the 40-man. Maybe Erasmo clears (it's probably 50/50) but to me it's not worth the risk. That's fair. I didn't see enough to form an opinion one way or the other and I do think it's pretty bad he was used in that situation to begin with. They have been strikingly bad with these smaller moves for quite a while now, it's so weird. Managing the margins of the roster isn't something I've been impressed with from Dombrowski over the last few years, even when things were going great last year. And it was a criticism of him with Detroit as well. It's less important than the things he does well, so I'll take the tradeoff, but it is often frustrating.
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Post by ramireja on Apr 19, 2019 12:42:50 GMT -5
That's fair. I didn't see enough to form an opinion one way or the other and I do think it's pretty bad he was used in that situation to begin with. They have been strikingly bad with these smaller moves for quite a while now, it's so weird. Managing the margins of the roster isn't something I've been impressed with from Dombrowski over the last few years, even when things were going great last year. And it was a criticism of him with Detroit as well. It's less important than the things he does well, so I'll take the tradeoff, but it is often frustrating. Strong agree and I came on to post something along these lines. He definitely seems like a below average GM in this regard.
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Post by mobaz on Apr 19, 2019 13:05:35 GMT -5
Managing the margins of the roster isn't something I've been impressed with from Dombrowski over the last few years, even when things were going great last year. And it was a criticism of him with Detroit as well. It's less important than the things he does well, so I'll take the tradeoff, but it is often frustrating. Strong agree and I came on to post something along these lines. He definitely seems like a below average GM in this regard. The opposite of Theo and Ben here, who understood everyone to be an asset (to an extreme at times)
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Apr 19, 2019 13:28:37 GMT -5
On Erasmo, I am fairly certain that he had an opt out. I'm working to confirm the date.
If, say, it was a May 1 or 15 opt out, this makes a bit more sense.
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Post by Guidas on Apr 19, 2019 14:18:55 GMT -5
Lemme bury the lede here and go on record saying that DFAing Ramirez rather than just optioning Brewer or cutting Thornburg is pretty dumb. Do we really want to keep Erasmo? Agree with this. He is not a major league pitcher, IMHO. If you're at a point where you think you need to keep him on the MLB roster your season is probably done and you're in the tank for a draft pick. Any of a dozen other guys can play that role, and allow the Sox to get a look at their potential. Erasmo is not one of those guys.
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Post by grandsalami on Apr 19, 2019 14:40:43 GMT -5
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Post by bosox on Apr 19, 2019 14:58:40 GMT -5
On Erasmo, I am fairly certain that he had an opt out. I'm working to confirm the date. If, say, it was a May 1 or 15 opt out, this makes a bit more sense. Aside from any other opt he agreed to, being a MLB FA signed to a minor league deal at least 10 days prior to Opening Day, I believe he has an automatic June 1st opt out if not added to the 25-man roster. I could be wrong on that but I believe that is the case.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Apr 19, 2019 15:14:51 GMT -5
On Erasmo, I am fairly certain that he had an opt out. I'm working to confirm the date. If, say, it was a May 1 or 15 opt out, this makes a bit more sense. Why do you think they promoted Chavis, Chris? Just a look? Panic time for offense? I honestly don't know where they'll even play him. DHing a lot I guess, which is probably what his future is anyways.
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Post by bosox on Apr 19, 2019 15:25:22 GMT -5
Looks like Beni is starting in left and Lin is starting at second. Chavis on the bench tonight. Link
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Apr 19, 2019 15:31:09 GMT -5
Lemme bury the lede here and go on record saying that DFAing Ramirez rather than just optioning Brewer or cutting Thornburg is pretty dumb. I agree Thornburg should have been cut first, but this team has a ton of options at a reliever that can give you multiple innings. Right? Starting with Velazquez, then who knows about Johnson, and then the best arm out of the group in Shawaryn.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Apr 19, 2019 15:57:46 GMT -5
On Erasmo, I am fairly certain that he had an opt out. I'm working to confirm the date. If, say, it was a May 1 or 15 opt out, this makes a bit more sense. Aside from any other opt he agreed to, being a MLB FA signed to a minor league deal at least 10 days prior to Opening Day, I believe he has an automatic June 1st opt out if not added to the 25-man roster. I could be wrong on that but I believe that is the case. You're referring to an Article XX-B free agent. Those are players with 6 years of service time. Erasmo does not have 6 years.
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