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Post by art on Apr 23, 2019 21:40:16 GMT -5
Yeah I was thinking something along those lines, maybe Cora should have sent someone else out there to get the final 3 outs. Everyone was used in the first game and I'm sure Cora is trying everything he can to get Brasier and Barnes a extra day of rest. He really had no choice. It's too bad. So why did he have Barnes warm up then?
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Post by kevfc89 on Apr 23, 2019 21:40:37 GMT -5
oh poop
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Post by bosox on Apr 23, 2019 21:41:16 GMT -5
What can you do to shake up this offense. It's been almost a month of the season and very little sign of life.
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Post by Guidas on Apr 23, 2019 21:41:26 GMT -5
Quickly undoing all the good from the Tampa series here. Can’t blame it on the starters - mostly on the offense right now.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Apr 23, 2019 21:42:15 GMT -5
Everyone was used in the first game and I'm sure Cora is trying everything he can to get Brasier and Barnes a extra day of rest. He really had no choice. It's too bad. So why did he have Barnes warm up then? Just in case they took the lead.
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Post by Don Caballero on Apr 23, 2019 21:42:34 GMT -5
What can you do to shake up this offense. It's been almost a month of the season and very little sign of life. Based Sandy about to go on a hitting tear, just watch now.
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Post by congusgambler33 on Apr 23, 2019 21:43:16 GMT -5
Too many early opportunities squandered was the theme of this game.
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Post by grandsalami on Apr 23, 2019 21:43:43 GMT -5
Quickly undoing all the good from the Tampa series here. Can’t blame it on the starters - mostly on the offense right now. that tampa series was a mirage.... Bad teams have the occasionally good series. See the O's last year beating up the yankees.... This team isn't good and will have dug too big a hole to make the playoffs
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Post by caseytins on Apr 23, 2019 21:45:32 GMT -5
So why did he have Barnes warm up then? Just in case they took the lead. There was no need for him to extend Lakins. Barnes was warm and should have gone into the game. Thankfully, Lakins and Darwinzon looked good. They should both be kept up, IMO. Fake an injury for Hembree, or cut him. There are better options.
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Post by congusgambler33 on Apr 23, 2019 21:47:18 GMT -5
this team can't string any hits together. It is single,fly out,single DP. That has been the pattern for April.
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Post by congusgambler33 on Apr 23, 2019 21:49:55 GMT -5
Hernandez and Lakins did look good, but I have seen that from Brewer and Thornburg and the next time they stink it up. there is no conssistency in the middle relief pitching.
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Post by dirtdog on Apr 23, 2019 21:50:51 GMT -5
Dropping a double header to these bums and losing two to the Orioles at home come back to bite in August and September. This team is awful right now. Dont see an easy fix either.
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Post by kevfc89 on Apr 23, 2019 21:52:14 GMT -5
it's the offense now. The starters last time through the rotation have been a lot better, the good bullpen arms have been good (and the bad ones, yes, have been bad). But the offense continues to flounder and be way below average as a unit.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Apr 23, 2019 21:53:52 GMT -5
The 2019 Red Sox make it so hard to get excited about them.
They've killed any momentum they picked up. They looked primed to go on a winning streak, coming home, to play a punchless Tigers team, and of course, they get swept.
The bullpen hasn't killed them too much yet, because Barnes and Brasier have pitched well in the close games giving them a chance to hang onto the lead.
They're not the problem with the pen. The issue with the pen is that there just aren't enough quality options. Workman has pitched fairly well and Walden has surprisingly been good, but the rest of the pen has flat out sucked. Hembree has been terrible and he's probably the best of the rest which isn't saying much. Brewer's control is bad and his stuff hasn't been that unhittable to get away with it. Thornburg has been unimpressive. That's at least three spots that could be upgraded, which is why it's mind boggling they didn't even go sign lower tiered bullpen help.
And Chris Sale is still not himself. When he is it doesn't take him 100 pitches to go 5 inning and dispose of a lousy hitting team like Detroit.
And the offense...well the lack of power can be worked around when they hit, but they haven't hit, haven't moved the baserunners around like last season, and they certainly haven't been clutch. So when they're not stringing hits together that's when it's glaring that they're lacking in the power dept as other teams are smashing HRs all over the place.
Eventually JBJ will hit better, but for now he's an automatic out. They're getting more power out of Vazquez, but the offense out of catcher isn't good and they haven't gotten anything out of 2b offensively either. That's 3 spots and then you add in Mookie's slow start, Benintendi not being a sparkplug, Pearce still looking like he's in spring training mode, and the offense is not going to cover for the mediocre pitching.
Honestly, at this point, with Holt not ready, I'd say play Chavis at 2b every day and take your lumps on defense, and then you could always put Lin in at 2b for late inning defense and replace Chavis or move him over to 3b as a defensive replacement for Devers.
I'd say Chavis is a jolt of energy this team badly needs and he has the kind of power they're lacking. What he can't do is waste away on the bench. I'd prefer that he not learn 2b at the major league level but with what's going on, they might not be able to help it.
This team will eventually play better but it'll be a while before they see .500.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Apr 23, 2019 21:55:16 GMT -5
The other thing that is mind boggling - it's been 24 games now - 0 blow out victories!! Blow out victories is the mark of a superior team. The Red Sox have NONE! And those big innings they were famous for last year - hasn't happened in 2019 as they cannot sustain rallies!
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Post by congusgambler33 on Apr 23, 2019 21:55:34 GMT -5
Just win the series is what we are told..Well..this series has been lost and they have lost all except Tampa.
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Post by libertine on Apr 23, 2019 21:56:16 GMT -5
We managed it somehow last season but I can foresee "moving the line" being a problem this season with the catchers and JBJ at the bottom of the line-up. JD and Devers really not producing yet either.
Plus the starting pitching is shaky to say the least (though a bit better lately) and the bullpen being much worse of late (after a good start). Using the analogy of a good team being a finely tuned machine what we have now is a complete systemic breakdown.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Apr 23, 2019 21:59:05 GMT -5
Just in case they took the lead. There was no need for him to extend Lakins. Barnes was warm and should have gone into the game. Thankfully, Lakins and Darwinzon looked good. They should both be kept up, IMO. Fake an injury for Hembree, or cut him. There are better options. Cora wants Barnes to be fresh for September. It wouldn't have mattered. The Sox offense can't score worth a lick, the Sox would have lost either way. Barnes or no Barnes.
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Post by kevfc89 on Apr 23, 2019 22:12:02 GMT -5
we could use Moncada's .982 OPS
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Post by soxfansince67 on Apr 23, 2019 22:24:39 GMT -5
Today was a different type of rock bottom. It was deflating, wasteful, uninspired, boring - the exact mirror opposite of last season.
Where is the power? JD is hitting soft singles, Mookie is popping out, JBJ can't hit a single thing, Moreland is back King or GIDP. Pearce is not a smidge of what he was last year (yet).
Somehow, the dismal pitching is now dwarfed by the impotent offense.
Yuck - and yikes!
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Post by station13 on Apr 23, 2019 22:25:47 GMT -5
This team is impossible.
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Post by Coreno on Apr 23, 2019 22:27:49 GMT -5
Just win the series is what we are told..Well..this series has been lost and they have lost all except Tampa. They can still split.
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Post by dirtdog on Apr 23, 2019 22:29:20 GMT -5
Today was a different type of rock bottom. It was deflating, wasteful, uninspired, boring - the exact mirror opposite of last season. Where is the power? JD is hitting soft singles, Mookie is popping out, JBJ can't hit a single thing, Moreland is back King or GIDP. Pearce is not a smidge of what he was last year (yet). Somehow, the dismal pitching is now dwarfed by the impotent offense. Yuck - and yikes! You forgot the slap hitting Raffy Devers doing his best Matty Alou impression.
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Post by sarasoxer on Apr 23, 2019 22:31:01 GMT -5
Hernandez and Lakins did look good, but I have seen that from Brewer and Thornburg and the next time they stink it up. there is no conssistency in the middle relief pitching. Neither is ready. Each gave up 4 hits in 2+ innings. Lakins topped at 94 and I think Hernandez did to. This is less than Hembree, Walden, Thornburg. True, velocity isn't everything but the dominant relief guys are 3-5 mph higher. Hernandez might help if his command gets better as he is a lefty.
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Post by libertine on Apr 23, 2019 22:35:20 GMT -5
This team really looks like one that is struggling with the weight of expectations. Won it all last season. Expecting themselves to possibly do the same thing this season. Get off to a bad start, start feeling the pressure a bit and it starts to snowball. Then throw in a panicky front office move and injuries for good measure.
I said at the end of the season opening west coast swing I thought the team needed to get home, settle in, and start playing the baseball they were capable of. Well they got home finally but it hasn't helped their play on the field.
At these times I like to remember what that great baseball player/philosopher Yogi said about 90% of the game...
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