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Post by hammerhead on Jun 22, 2019 19:06:35 GMT -5
Looks like we're going to see the guy who we're going to and should trade for why would we make any reliever overpay trade? by the time of the deadline, we may know pretty well our position in the wildcard and division. We'll probably be looking good for the wildcard, unlikely for the division. So, we're going to gut the farm for Giles for a one game play-in? And i'm sure it will work great as all our reliever trades have. Why on Earth would we have to gut the farm for Giles? I think he's quite getable for fungible assets
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Post by soxfansince67 on Jun 22, 2019 19:07:36 GMT -5
Shouldn't be ignored...we scored early, in just 2 innings against Jay's pen arms. Mookie, JDM and Xander are 0 for. Can't get offense rolling on all cylinders
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Post by kevfc89 on Jun 22, 2019 19:08:37 GMT -5
why would we make any reliever overpay trade? by the time of the deadline, we may know pretty well our position in the wildcard and division. We'll probably be looking good for the wildcard, unlikely for the division. So, we're going to gut the farm for Giles for a one game play-in? And i'm sure it will work great as all our reliever trades have. Why on Earth would we have to gut the farm for Giles? I think he's quite getable for fungible assets because he's been really dam good? a lot of teams would love to have a guy with a 1.09 FIP this year...he should fetch quite a bit for the Jays
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Post by hammerhead on Jun 22, 2019 19:11:55 GMT -5
Why on Earth would we have to gut the farm for Giles? I think he's quite getable for fungible assets because he's been really dam good? a lot of teams would love to have a guy with a 1.09 FIP this year...he should fetch quite a bit for the Jays Every year these type of guys come around. Every year they're traded for less than you'd think. We have a shitty farm, but what we do have is redundancy, trade that redundancy for a guy like Giles
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Jun 22, 2019 19:16:30 GMT -5
because he's been really dam good? a lot of teams would love to have a guy with a 1.09 FIP this year...he should fetch quite a bit for the Jays Every year these type of guys come around. Every year they're traded for less than you'd think. We have a shitty farm, but what we do have is redundancy, trade that redundancy for a guy like Giles Expanded playoff format means more buyers than sellers. It takes one team who feels they're a closer away from a championship to over spend. He's been really, really good. You're not going to get him for Mata.
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Post by kevfc89 on Jun 22, 2019 19:17:41 GMT -5
LOL popup double somehow falls into left field...we're still alive
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Post by tizzle on Jun 22, 2019 19:17:48 GMT -5
Uhh... what?
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Jun 22, 2019 19:18:35 GMT -5
Wow.
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Post by tizzle on Jun 22, 2019 19:18:38 GMT -5
I'd bunt here. They'd never expect it.
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Jun 22, 2019 19:19:30 GMT -5
I'd bunt here. They'd never expect it. Probably end up a double.
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Post by hammerhead on Jun 22, 2019 19:21:16 GMT -5
Every year these type of guys come around. Every year they're traded for less than you'd think. We have a shitty farm, but what we do have is redundancy, trade that redundancy for a guy like Giles Expanded playoff format means more buyers than sellers. It takes one team who feels they're a closer away from a championship to over spend. He's been really, really good. You're not going to get him for Mata. I don't know... Hard throwers are a dime a dozen nowadays. I know he's been really good, I wouldn't want him if he wasn't.
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Post by kevfc89 on Jun 22, 2019 19:21:23 GMT -5
fudge
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Jun 22, 2019 19:23:00 GMT -5
Weird feeling. Like, today I was just half expecting a loss anyways with BJ on the mound and was fine with whatever outcome, but how they lost just makes it an awful feeling.
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Post by soxfansince67 on Jun 22, 2019 19:23:02 GMT -5
JD is in a tough stretch
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Post by station13 on Jun 22, 2019 19:24:15 GMT -5
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Jun 22, 2019 19:24:23 GMT -5
Hopefully your kayak goes better.
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Post by bosox on Jun 22, 2019 19:36:40 GMT -5
Only the Mets have more blown saves (16) than the Red Sox at 15.
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Jun 22, 2019 19:38:17 GMT -5
Only the Mets have more blown save (16) than the Red Sox at 15. To be fair, I think the Sox pen is 2nd or 3rd in innings pitched.
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Post by kevfc89 on Jun 22, 2019 19:41:23 GMT -5
i think the bullpen is good, but dam it's unfortunate/bad luck/whatever that this in now our 7th!! loss this year when leading after 7 innings.
One of the ways in which it feels it's just not quite our year.
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Post by soxfaninnj on Jun 22, 2019 19:48:32 GMT -5
Lost a game we should have won tonight. Won a game we should have lost last night. Let’s win the series tomorrow and get over this dreadful loss.
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Post by larrycook on Jun 22, 2019 19:55:19 GMT -5
i think the bullpen is good, but dam it's unfortunate/bad luck/whatever that this in now our 7th!! loss this year when leading after 7 innings. One of the ways in which it feels it's just not quite our year. Aren’t we up to 11 losses due to bullpen meltdowns?
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Jun 22, 2019 20:00:17 GMT -5
Red Sox bullpen: 5th ERA 2nd in SO 5th in BAA
Not sure if tonight is updated, I don't think it is.
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Post by TearsIn04 on Jun 22, 2019 20:08:33 GMT -5
The MFY have taken the lead again over the Astros and if they win they'll be on pace for 104 W's. It just feels like their year. We switched places with them. They are the juggernaut of 2019 and we're the good, solid team.
Most ominously, I think they're likely to finish with the best record in the AL. That means we would play them if we were to get past the one-game WC playoff game. That could be an ugly series.
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Jun 22, 2019 20:13:00 GMT -5
The MFY have taken the lead again over the Astros and if they win they'll be on pace for 104 W's. It just feels like their year. We switched places with them. They are the juggernaut of 2019 and we're the good, solid team. Most ominously, I think they're likely to finish with the best record in the AL. That means we would play them if we were to get past the one-game WC playoff game. That could be an ugly series. Just wait until they get Max Scherzer for a bag of balls.
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Post by tizzle on Jun 22, 2019 20:23:10 GMT -5
i think the bullpen is good, but dam it's unfortunate/bad luck/whatever that this in now our 7th!! loss this year when leading after 7 innings. One of the ways in which it feels it's just not quite our year. Or, you know, they're not really that good. I like Barnes, always have. But he's inconsistent. He's a good reliever, but he really shouldn't be a contender's best reliever. Our second best reliever has been Walden, a 30 year old having his first taste of competence in the majors. Our 3rd best is Workman, who's never been better than average and is averaging about 6 Walks per 9. Brasier is a 31 year old with one partial season of success. Hembree has a whole career of looking good in low-leverage situations and bad under pressure, except for a few brief spells. It's a Petri dish of inconsistency. I'm not all that interested in people trying to show me how good they are because of this stat or that one. They fail way too much. And the stats people want to post to prove otherwise I just read as "hey, when they're not a disaster, they're pretty good".
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