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Post by Don Caballero on Dec 27, 2019 19:34:00 GMT -5
Boy if there was ever a doubt whose team this is I'm pretty sure that's in the past. Just unbelievable how good Tatum and Brown have been.
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Post by rjp313jr on Dec 27, 2019 21:08:22 GMT -5
Boy if there was ever a doubt whose team this is I'm pretty sure that's in the past. Just unbelievable how good Tatum and Brown have been. Kemba still runs the show but he often does it by handing over the keys. |
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Post by rjp313jr on Dec 27, 2019 21:12:04 GMT -5
Also, I really like Romeo. Don’t forget he was the number 5 recruit in his class and played his freshman year with a torn ligament in the thumb on his shooting hand. I don’t know how good he will be, but the talent, size and length are there to be every bit as good as Tatum and Brown. Best part is they can actually all play together.
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Post by Don Caballero on Dec 27, 2019 22:41:33 GMT -5
Kemba still runs the show but he often does it by handing over the keys. Kemba is just a super dude, to be this good and gel that well with everyone else is pretty rare. The Celtics are yet to hit any real hardship so we can see how he would deal with the situation and Boston can be a sh*t place to struggle, but I'm fairly confident he'd nail it too. He's a mentality giant. |
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Post by rjp313jr on Dec 28, 2019 9:51:00 GMT -5
Kemba still runs the show but he often does it by handing over the keys. Kemba is just a super dude, to be this good and gel that well with everyone else is pretty rare. The Celtics are yet to hit any real hardship so we can see how he would deal with the situation and Boston can be a sh*t place to struggle, but I'm fairly confident he'd nail it too. He's a mentality giant. Spending that many years in Charlotte probably helps as well... not saying that’s the driver because he’s super loyal and wanted to stay there, but it certainly helps his perspective. |
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Post by Don Caballero on Dec 28, 2019 12:01:46 GMT -5
Spending that many years in Charlotte probably helps as well... not saying that’s the driver because he’s super loyal and wanted to stay there, but it certainly helps his perspective. Yeah I thought about that as well, he's done crossing his desert and ended up in a water park. Reminds me a bit of KG. |
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Post by jimed14 on Dec 28, 2019 13:58:14 GMT -5
Boy if there was ever a doubt whose team this is I'm pretty sure that's in the past. Just unbelievable how good Tatum and Brown have been. Kemba still runs the show but he often does it by handing over the keys. Yeah, imagine how badly Kyrie would be pouting if he was on this team now. Kemba is an absolute perfect fit for them. He can hit 5 3 pointers in a quarter if they need it and then just sit back and score 2 points with 11 assists and be happy that the team won. |
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Post by voiceofreason on Dec 28, 2019 14:21:09 GMT -5
I can't wait for the refs to give Theis the credit he deserves for playing very good D. Right now he is like a rookie getting called for everything and never getting a break. It is crazy how you have to earn your stripes in the NBA before they let you play D, did the same to Marcus.
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Post by wcp3 on Dec 28, 2019 19:33:36 GMT -5
Hopefully for New Years, Brad’s resolution is to learn how to use his timeouts. What a joke.
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Post by wcp3 on Dec 28, 2019 19:37:34 GMT -5
I’ve never seen such a good coach be so bad at something so fundamental. Brad is truly the worst coach I’ve ever seen at using timeouts.
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Post by wcp3 on Dec 28, 2019 19:55:04 GMT -5
Bozo Brad lets the deficit go from 3 to 12 before calling timeout.
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Post by rjp313jr on Dec 29, 2019 6:12:47 GMT -5
I’ve never seen such a good coach be so bad at something so fundamental. Brad is truly the worst coach I’ve ever seen at using timeouts. He’s gotten better at challenges maybe timeouts is next! In all seriousness, I do think overall he’s been better about it. |
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Post by dirtywater43 on Dec 29, 2019 6:46:47 GMT -5
Kemba still runs the show but he often does it by handing over the keys. Yeah, imagine how badly Kyrie would be pouting if he was on this team now. Kemba is an absolute perfect fit for them. He can hit 5 3 pointers in a quarter if they need it and then just sit back and score 2 points with 11 assists and be happy that the team won. All of this doesn't matter, the comparisons. Absolutely doesn't in any of the context of the Celtics winning their next ring or getting to the finals even, whenever that comes. The Celtics haven't done that since KG left. I'm sick of being the cute team that doesn't make it to that point. This franchise has been that for a decade. Sorry if anyone wants to settle for less and disagrees with me. Yeah not sorry. This team's history isn't built off of cute stories. It's built off of titles. |
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Post by dirtywater43 on Dec 29, 2019 6:48:00 GMT -5
Boy if there was ever a doubt whose team this is I'm pretty sure that's in the past. Just unbelievable how good Tatum and Brown have been. I got huge questions about this team with Tatum. Sorry Don, no sure bet here. Brown is looking like a solid bet to keep being a solid to great player though. He's been progressing and getting to that point. Glad they gave Brown the money. He's worth it. |
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Post by wcp3 on Dec 29, 2019 10:32:08 GMT -5
Boy if there was ever a doubt whose team this is I'm pretty sure that's in the past. Just unbelievable how good Tatum and Brown have been. I got huge questions about this team with Tatum. Sorry Don, no sure bet here. Brown is looking like a solid bet to keep being a solid to great player though. He's been progressing and getting to that point. Glad they gave Brown the money. He's worth it. I’m pretty confident in Tatum’s future. He still has some bad habits that make him frustrating in games when he’s off, but literally every aspect of his game has taken steps forward this season - including his D, which too many people are overlooking. Scal had a great point yesterday about what it takes for good young players to become great players. Good young players will dominant the Clevelands and Knicks of the world, but the next step will be to do that against good teams. And the step after that will be to take over on the road against good teams. Both Tatum and Brown have certainly done the first part and shown flashes of the second, but the next step is for them to consistently be better against good teams. When you consider how far they’ve come at their respective ages, I’m pretty confident they have another level to get to. |
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Post by voiceofreason on Dec 29, 2019 10:43:51 GMT -5
I like Scal I think he does a good job and he is smart and informative about the game. I for one don't overlook the D at all and it is why I think both JB and JT are destined for some all-star games. Neither one of them is lazy on D and they impact the game. Tatum is #6 in the league right now in +/- and most of that rating is on D.
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Post by Don Caballero on Dec 29, 2019 11:11:08 GMT -5
I got huge questions about this team with Tatum. Sorry Don, no sure bet here. Brown is looking like a solid bet to keep being a solid to great player though. He's been progressing and getting to that point. Glad they gave Brown the money. He's worth it. Tatum is still inconsistent like wcp3 mentioned, but he passes the eye test. He's got a lot of go to moves that lead to scoring chances, it's a matter of him finishing a bit better which should come. Combine that with an impressive elite defense and there's not a lot of reason to be concerned about Tatum. Is he a 1A option on a championship team? With this team as it is, he doesn't need to be. |
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Post by dirtywater43 on Dec 29, 2019 12:02:24 GMT -5
I got huge questions about this team with Tatum. Sorry Don, no sure bet here. Brown is looking like a solid bet to keep being a solid to great player though. He's been progressing and getting to that point. Glad they gave Brown the money. He's worth it. I’m pretty confident in Tatum’s future. He still has some bad habits that make him frustrating in games when he’s off, but literally every aspect of his game has taken steps forward this season - including his D, which too many people are overlooking. He does have everything you look for with ceiling in a young player for sure. He also is a guy they will gamble everything for in the future to make sure he reaches that ceiling. Quite frankly, the Celtics kind of have to pay him the money, even if he's not worth it because of their future cap ramifications. They can't really spend it anywhere else for a long while. All you got is leverage over your own players with the bird's rights and restricted free agency. The Celtics can't really sign anyone else because of contracts like Kemba, Brown, Smart (to a degree). |
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Post by texs31 on Dec 29, 2019 14:26:28 GMT -5
The Cs cap situation isnt really the reason they have to pay him. What the other 29 teams (or the subset of them that will have space the following offseason) would offer is.
For whatever flaws we think he has, he 100% gets a max offer from somebody (assuming no drastic change to his play/health).
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Post by voiceofreason on Dec 29, 2019 14:42:27 GMT -5
For a 21 year old he doesn't have many flaws and we should all be happy that Markelle Fultz isn't a Celtic!!
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Post by Don Caballero on Dec 29, 2019 15:09:08 GMT -5
The Cs cap situation isnt really the reason they have to pay him. What the other 29 teams (or the subset of them that will have space the following offseason) would offer is. For whatever flaws we think he has, he 100% gets a max offer from somebody (assuming no drastic change to his play/health). And why wouldn't you pay Tatum? What other player could they sign instead? I know that fans are obsessed with LARPing as a GM, but Jesus sometimes we just overdo it. There's no need to moneyball everything. |
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Post by texs31 on Dec 29, 2019 15:17:49 GMT -5
The comment was in response to the previous (admittedly not quoted in my post) suggesting that they have to pay him bc of the cap situation.
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Post by voiceofreason on Dec 29, 2019 15:22:43 GMT -5
The Cs cap situation isnt really the reason they have to pay him. What the other 29 teams (or the subset of them that will have space the following offseason) would offer is. For whatever flaws we think he has, he 100% gets a max offer from somebody (assuming no drastic change to his play/health). And why wouldn't you pay Tatum? What other player could they sign instead? I know that fans are obsessed with LARPing as a GM, but Jesus sometimes we just overdo it. There's no need to moneyball everything. LOL, sometimes you guys are funny LOL!! |
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Post by Don Caballero on Dec 29, 2019 15:40:46 GMT -5
The comment was in response to the previous (admittedly not quoted in my post) suggesting that they have to pay him bc of the cap situation. Oh I got that, I didn't mean to imply you thought like that. I was expanding on what you said. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Dec 29, 2019 16:32:08 GMT -5
Tatum is 21 years old! Took Pierce to age 23 to get to 20 points per game, heck he was a rookie at age 21.
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