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Post by umassgrad2005 on Feb 3, 2020 16:11:12 GMT -5
You could trade Theis, Kanter and Green for Capella. Reports say they wants picks to flip for another player which we have.
Yet you only do that if you can also add a Wood or Saric type player because you are killing the little depth we have. Then your flipping over half the roster, but it isn't crazy, just very unlikely.
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Post by texs31 on Feb 3, 2020 16:49:38 GMT -5
You could work your way using cap matching rules (though involving other teams gets more complicated even if just from a timing standpoint). For example (as I've seen suggested), you could trade Kanter and Semi to OKC for Roberson. Roberson plus pick for Capela.
TBC, my intent is only it highlight the math of it all. Not suggesting OKC would want to be a part of that (though if they find a taker for Adams, maybe they WOULD want Kanter).
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Feb 3, 2020 17:18:27 GMT -5
If you wanted to work your way up to trade for Capela wouldn't you want Theis to be that guy? Thus giving you Kanter for the bench and a totally different look?
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Post by texs31 on Feb 3, 2020 20:45:05 GMT -5
Sure. Though there is an argument that Theis is the perfect fit for what they do and under your control next yr (vs having to pay Kanter when he opts out).
For the math, though, either would work.
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Post by baseballlifer34 on Feb 3, 2020 21:38:08 GMT -5
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Post by Don Caballero on Feb 3, 2020 22:17:43 GMT -5
Never trade The Captain. Nice win tonight, things got exciting late but nice to see Hayward leading the charge to end it. Grant looked really good and we got lucky Theis wasn't seriously injured.
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Post by sarasoxer on Feb 3, 2020 22:25:47 GMT -5
Never trade The Captain. Nice win tonight, things got exciting late but nice to see Hayward leading the charge to end it. Grant looked really good and we got lucky Theis wasn't seriously injured. Hopefully on Theis. It initially didn't look good. Swelling will be a key, of course. I'd bet he would be out a week or so on what I saw....(I am awaiting results from my med boards).
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Post by mobaz on Feb 4, 2020 9:04:22 GMT -5
Proposed on The Ringer:
Enes Kanter, Romeo Langford, Vincent Poirier, the Celtics’ 2020 first-round pick to the Thunder for Dennis Schröder OR Langford, Grant Williams, the Grizzlies’ 2020 first-rounder to the Kings for Bogdan Bogdanovic
I hate them both. I don't see a bigger trade I'd be happy with, honestly. I like this team, I think the young guys will be key rotation pieces, and I don't see a way to improve the bigs situation without gutting the team. If healthy, Kanter/Theis/Timelord with sprinkings of Grant Williams and Poirier can do enough against a lot of teams. Especially if Smart, Brown and Tatum are balling on D.
Look for a Wanamaker upgrade or turn Semi and the Celtics 1st into something.
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Post by texs31 on Feb 4, 2020 10:01:20 GMT -5
Not sure why he's available but, given that he is, I'd be in on Kennard. Phoenix seems to be offering Okobo, Carter and a 1st. Seems like we could beat that, no?
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Post by sarasoxer on Feb 4, 2020 10:46:21 GMT -5
When we have bad stretches it seems we fans are in woe is us need. But right now, we feel fat (phat?) and happy. Maybe add dumb.... if the team doesn't plan ahead. Perhaps because we play so hard and are a bit rotationally short, injuries are an ever present and particularly dangerous lurker.
None of our top guys are going in salary matching... Too much risk in loss of chemistry...or impending free agency. So I think Danny will use the bulging goodie bag of flotsam in Semi, Poirier, too many not ready for prime rookies and draft picks to 'net' a very good second tier floor spacer... As to Kennard, I think he has his own repetitive injury issues.
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Post by Don Caballero on Feb 4, 2020 11:52:01 GMT -5
Why is Iguodala getting paid again? LMAO.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Feb 4, 2020 12:21:21 GMT -5
Why is Iguodala getting paid again? LMAO. Reports say they have an offer from the Mavs, expiring contract and a first round pick. Are just seeing if they can beat it. At first I got it, last year you don't want to play for a rebuilding team. Now it's a little crazy though. Mavs are a flawed team, not much difference from the Grizzly in my opinion. D matters in the playoffs and the Mavs game is to just try and outscore you.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Feb 4, 2020 12:24:28 GMT -5
If Detroit wants to blow it up, send us Brown and Woods please. Woods gives us a big who can shoot and Brown is kinda like Smart.
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Post by Don Caballero on Feb 4, 2020 12:54:23 GMT -5
Reports say they have an offer from the Mavs, expiring contract and a first round pick. Are just seeing if they can beat it. At first I got it, last year you don't want to play for a rebuilding team. Now it's a little crazy though. Mavs are a flawed team, not much difference from the Grizzly in my opinion. D matters in the playoffs and the Mavs game is to just try and outscore you. Yeah but he flat out should not be getting paid, this is a disgrace to the league. If I'm the Grizzlies owner I'm making a point about this.
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Post by sarasoxer on Feb 4, 2020 13:43:11 GMT -5
If Detroit wants to blow it up, send us Brown and Woods please. Woods gives us a big who can shoot and Brown is kinda like Smart. Yeah...I'm big on Wood....have watched a game or 2, looked at YouTube videos....and he's 6'10". But I've crossed over to a floor spacer. Brown has really improved his shooting, all around game. I like your suggestion.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Feb 4, 2020 15:15:15 GMT -5
Every year is the same basically. Danny is in on everything, he explores every option. Every year because of that we expect a trade and they don't happen. Yet this year feels slightly different, like we are a bench upgrade away from being legit contenders. I certainly don't expect a big trade, but a piece for the bench seems semi likely. Yet it does take two to make a trade. First round picks have been hard to get at the deadline lately and we shouldn't be scared to trade a late first when we own three of them. It really comes down to how Danny values the players and what teams want.
The more I research Woods, look at boxscores, watch videos I really like him. Yet he doesn't have Bird rights coming off a two year deal. His early bird rights won't get you close to his market value. So I have a hard time coming up with a trade, unless they take a 2nd round pick. If he had full bird rights I could think about a first. A big part of a trade for me is adding future salary for trades.
I've loved Bruce Brown since the draft two years ago and wanted Danny to take him. He's just a Celtic type of player. Good defender, can play three positions, can pass the ball and play team Basketball. I would love to get him, yet I don't see why they would trade him. He's signed for the minimum next year. I would give up a late first for both of them in a second though.
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Post by rjp313jr on Feb 4, 2020 18:59:23 GMT -5
Alec Burks would be a nice pickup for the bench and he’s someone who you may be able to resign for shorter money. Fits pretty perfectly, can replace Wannamakers minutes even though he’s not a PG. good 3pt shooter, playmaker, long and a good defender.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Feb 5, 2020 2:07:51 GMT -5
I don't mind Burk, I love how he gets to the line. Good solid player. Yet I don't get replacing Wannamaker given how he had played and when we are fully healthy he doesn't even play much. Burk also doesn't have bird rights. It's like upgrading from Green. It might help a little bit during the season, yet I don't see a playoff role for him.
I only say this because I feel like we'll be lucky if Danny adds one guy. So let's add someone that adds a dimension to the team. A guy that can take Semi and Williams minutes and actually score on a consistent basis.
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Post by rjp313jr on Feb 5, 2020 6:34:26 GMT -5
That blockbuster last night was something... I’ll say this, Minnesota did well to get Beasley for Covington...
On to the Celtics, would you rather trade the Memphis pick or Romeo? I’d rather trade the pick and keep Romeo.
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Post by baseballlifer34 on Feb 5, 2020 7:09:30 GMT -5
That blockbuster last night was something... I’ll say this, Minnesota did well to get Beasley for Covington... On to the Celtics, would you rather trade the Memphis pick or Romeo? I’d rather trade the pick and keep Romeo. Pick. That thing keeps dropping in value every single day. Romeo seems like he could be a important piece here someday. It'll take time though.
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Post by texs31 on Feb 5, 2020 7:45:01 GMT -5
Agreed. Keep Romeo.
Of their assets I'm willing to trade:
- any of their picks (MEM 1st - still would prefer protection on it; BOS 1st, MIL 1st and BRK 2nd) - Carsen Edwards (don't love trading a young guy when his value is low but . . . ) - any of their bodies (Green, Poirier for sure, probably even Semi despite him being a rotation guy - feel like GWill can continue to prove he can do the same things) - Wanamaker (a little concerned about the backup ball handler depth during the regular season but playoffs s/b fine given tighter rotations) - Kanter but ONLY if there is a means to get another big back (even beyond the return of RWill)
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Feb 5, 2020 12:20:12 GMT -5
Color me confused, I get trading Capela for Covington in today's NBA. I don't get the Rockets having to trade a first round pick, plus Capela to make it happen.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Feb 5, 2020 13:18:11 GMT -5
Currently the Rockets pick traded was 21st, the Grizz pick is 17th. I like the Grizz, good solid team. Yet they aren't this good either. The schedule gets harder and you have the Blazers behind them. So I'm only trading that pick for a really good player. So far only one player mentioned meets that level and frankly it might not even be enough now.
I'm not trading Langford unless there is a ton happening behind the scenes we haven't heard about. Which seems unlikely given the Boston media. I trust Danny and he was always a guy who needed time. I am a little surprised at how little playing time he has got though.
The real question is who will actually be available that is worth trading even the Bucks pick for.
Going to predict Edwards for Woods or Saric for Poirier and the Bucks pick.
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Post by rjp313jr on Feb 5, 2020 15:53:28 GMT -5
I haven’t done a fantasy basketball league since college. Do we have enough people in here to do one next year? Can do it Roto style and keep it simple.
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Post by ianrs on Feb 5, 2020 16:26:04 GMT -5
I haven’t done a fantasy basketball league since college. Do we have enough people in here to do one next year? Can do it Roto style and keep it simple. I would do one for sure! Count me in. Never played roto (typically do head to head categories based) so would be neat to learn.
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