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Post by redsox04071318champs on Dec 3, 2019 21:47:40 GMT -5
And Marco Hernandez is now back. I'm probably mangling the interpretation of this but he has a new deal - I think it's a minor league one. I could be wrong but he is indeed back in the organization.
Our national nightmare is now over.
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Post by gerry on Dec 4, 2019 1:45:12 GMT -5
And Marco Hernandez is now back. I'm probably mangling the interpretation of this but he has a new deal - I think it's a minor league one. I could be wrong but he is indeed back in the organization. Our national nightmare is now over. Smart move. According to Masslive tonite it is a split or two way deal. He gets a pro-rated $650M if he mekes the MLB team, and a high end minor league deal when he is at AAA. He is on the 40 man. They also report trying to work a similar deal with Osich. I guess this is a type of pillow contract which keeps them in the game and on the team. Better than scratching for a pure minor league deal somewhere. Everyone wins while the Sox build depth.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Dec 4, 2019 10:06:25 GMT -5
And Marco Hernandez is now back. I'm probably mangling the interpretation of this but he has a new deal - I think it's a minor league one. I could be wrong but he is indeed back in the organization. Our national nightmare is now over. Smart move. According to Masslive tonite it is a split or two way deal. He gets a pro-rated $650M if he mekes the MLB team, and a high end minor league deal when he is at AAA. He is on the 40 man. They also report trying to work a similar deal with Osich. I guess this is a type of pillow contract which keeps them in the game and on the team. Better than scratching for a pure minor league deal somewhere. Everyone wins while the Sox build depth. These are better than minor league deals. They're on the 40 and will get close to what they would have otherwise made while they're in the majors. If they're in the minors, they'll likely be making essentially what they'd have gotten on minor league deals, and probably more. Meanwhile, the club saves money while they're down, with the flexibility of being able to call them up if needed. Consider adding them to the 40 now as a substitute for giving them opt-outs or upward mobility clauses.
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Post by texs31 on Dec 4, 2019 12:24:26 GMT -5
Hamels to the Braves. 1/18. Per Jeff Passan
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Post by dmaineah on Dec 4, 2019 14:25:36 GMT -5
The Phillies have reached an agreement to sign free-agent right-hander Zack Wheeler, Marc Carig of The Athletic reports it is for 5/$118.
The Angels have reached a deal to acquire right-hander Dylan Bundy from the Orioles, Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic reports (via Twitter). Minor league right-hander Isaac Mattson is among the players headed back to the Orioles in the trade, which should be the first of several moves made to add to the Angels’ rotation this winter. Jon Meoli of the Baltimore Sun reports that the Orioles will acquire a total of four minor league pitchers in the deal.
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Post by James Dunne on Dec 4, 2019 16:11:37 GMT -5
I know Joe Maddon isn't super popular in these parts, but he seems like a pretty good match to figure out Dylan Bundy, who I will continue always to insist is good. Great pickup.
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Post by vermontsox1 on Dec 4, 2019 16:14:14 GMT -5
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Post by PedroKsBambino on Dec 4, 2019 19:15:24 GMT -5
Jon Morosi @jonmorosi 52m Source: #SFGiants hire Brian Bannister, former #RedSox vice president of pitching development. @mlb @mlbnetwork
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Post by gerry on Dec 5, 2019 2:19:35 GMT -5
Jon Morosi @jonmorosi 52m Source: #SFGiants hire Brian Bannister, former #RedSox vice president of pitching development. @mlb @mlbnetwork [br Yikes. Times they are a changin, again.
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Post by fenwaythehardway on Dec 5, 2019 6:19:14 GMT -5
That's up to 80% of the best news Mets fans could ever hear.
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Post by rjp313jr on Dec 5, 2019 7:26:30 GMT -5
That's up to 80% of the best news Mets fans could ever hear. Wilson’s will maintain control for 5 years... will Be a long 5 years but Mets fans are used to it.
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Post by PedroKsBambino on Dec 5, 2019 11:37:25 GMT -5
Joel Sherman @joelsherman1 · 11m #astros are getting Blake Taylor and Kenedy Corona from the #mets for Marisnick
Jake Marisnick to the Mets for 2 low level minor leaguers. Takes Mets out of the JBJ trade possibility.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Dec 5, 2019 12:25:05 GMT -5
Joel Sherman @joelsherman1 · 11m #astros are getting Blake Taylor and Kenedy Corona from the #mets for Marisnick Jake Marisnick to the Mets for 2 low level minor leaguers. Takes Mets out of the JBJ trade possibility. Yup. Had same reaction.
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Post by jimed14 on Dec 5, 2019 13:47:25 GMT -5
Joel Sherman @joelsherman1 · 11m #astros are getting Blake Taylor and Kenedy Corona from the #mets for Marisnick Jake Marisnick to the Mets for 2 low level minor leaguers. Takes Mets out of the JBJ trade possibility. It also takes Marsinick away from being JBJ's possible replacement.
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Post by James Dunne on Dec 5, 2019 16:52:58 GMT -5
Joel Sherman @joelsherman1 · 11m #astros are getting Blake Taylor and Kenedy Corona from the #mets for Marisnick Jake Marisnick to the Mets for 2 low level minor leaguers. Takes Mets out of the JBJ trade possibility. It also takes Marsinick away from being JBJ's possible replacement. Yep. I'm kinda skeptical of Marsinick, but you could certainly do worse.
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Post by thegoodthebadthesox on Dec 5, 2019 18:23:08 GMT -5
It also takes Marsinick away from being JBJ's possible replacement. Yep. I'm kinda skeptical of Marsinick, but you could certainly do worse. I'm kinda skeptical of anyone coming off the Astros at this point. Not because I think they're dirty players or anything, but because that organization provides them so many advantages, legal or otherwise, that I assume most will regress.
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Post by dirtywater43 on Dec 5, 2019 20:29:53 GMT -5
There goes the narrative that the Yankees won't spend the money for Cole. Be afraid. Be very afraid. If the Yankees get him, they're instantly the world series favorites next year.
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Post by PedroKsBambino on Dec 5, 2019 20:51:44 GMT -5
Pineda re-signs w Twins. 2 years, 20 million.
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Post by jimed14 on Dec 5, 2019 21:45:53 GMT -5
There goes the narrative that the Yankees won't spend the money for Cole. Be afraid. Be very afraid. If the Yankees get him, they're instantly the world series favorites next year. I'm not worried one bit. Don't be so soft. The narrative isn't gone until they actually do it. For all we know, this is just part of the Boras PR machine.
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Post by dirtywater43 on Dec 5, 2019 21:59:53 GMT -5
What happens when/if they actually do it? This isn't a Boras PR thing. The Yankees have the money and aren't being cheap with it. They're willing to spend the money.
It's up to Cole and his prefference of wanting to pitch in his home in Calinfornia (the two LA teams stepping up with big offers maybe) or taking the most money in the Yankees most likely.
When George Steinbrenner stepped down as the owner of the Yankees in the late 2000's decade, Hank and Hal spent 1.3 billion in contracts from 2008-2014. I think the narrative of them being cheap is a misconception. They've been smarter with their money and they probably realize that the time to strike while the iron is hot is now most likely.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Dec 5, 2019 22:06:33 GMT -5
There goes the narrative that the Yankees won't spend the money for Cole. Be afraid. Be very afraid. If the Yankees get him, they're instantly the world series favorites next year. I'm not worried one bit. Don't be so soft. The narrative isn't gone until they actually do it. For all we know, this is just part of the Boras PR machine. The Yankees would be stupid if they don't sign either Cole or Strasburg. They'll get one of them, most likely Cole as they've always had a thing for him. Most likely the Yankees wind up with Cole, Washington re-signs Strasburg and Rendon goes to the Rangers. Thinking that Cole is the one free agent that makes sense for the Yankees, fills the one need they truly have, and makes them a good deal better is not unreasonable. Add to the fact that there's a lot of noise about the Yankees being willing to spend the $, there's good reason to believe the Yankees will wind up with a top notch starter. They're not looking for the next Eovaldi in free agency. They're aiming at the top.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Dec 5, 2019 22:19:53 GMT -5
According to Ryan Spaeder on twitter, he has an inside source that says the Angels are going to do whatever it takes to sign Cole.
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Post by jimed14 on Dec 5, 2019 22:27:53 GMT -5
I'm not worried one bit. Don't be so soft. The narrative isn't gone until they actually do it. For all we know, this is just part of the Boras PR machine. The Yankees would be stupid if they don't sign either Cole or Strasburg. They'll get one of them, most likely Cole as they've always had a thing for him. Most likely the Yankees wind up with Cole, Washington re-signs Strasburg and Rendon goes to the Rangers. Thinking that Cole is the one free agent that makes sense for the Yankees, fills the one need they truly have, and makes them a good deal better is not unreasonable. Add to the fact that there's a lot of noise about the Yankees being willing to spend the $, there's good reason to believe the Yankees will wind up with a top notch starter. They're not looking for the next Eovaldi in free agency. They're aiming at the top. Right. And they were also stupid the last two years when they went cheap. They signed Happ over even Keuchel. I'm pretty sure this is the third year in a row where you were certain they were going to sign every starting pitcher while signing nothing. Yankees were screwed when the #3 pitcher in Wheeler got signed first.
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Post by jimed14 on Dec 5, 2019 22:28:50 GMT -5
According to Ryan Spaeder on twitter, he has an inside source that says the Angels are going to do whatever it takes to sign Cole. And the Yankee story is Boras getting the Angels to spend more.
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Post by dirtywater43 on Dec 5, 2019 22:33:11 GMT -5
The Yankees would be stupid if they don't sign either Cole or Strasburg. They'll get one of them, most likely Cole as they've always had a thing for him. Most likely the Yankees wind up with Cole, Washington re-signs Strasburg and Rendon goes to the Rangers. Thinking that Cole is the one free agent that makes sense for the Yankees, fills the one need they truly have, and makes them a good deal better is not unreasonable. Add to the fact that there's a lot of noise about the Yankees being willing to spend the $, there's good reason to believe the Yankees will wind up with a top notch starter. They're not looking for the next Eovaldi in free agency. They're aiming at the top. Right. And they were also stupid the last two years when they went cheap. They signed Happ over even Keuchel. I'm pretty sure this is the third year in a row where you were certain they were going to sign every starting pitcher while signing nothing. I think that shows more of their interest and what they thought of both Corbin and Kheuchel then it does with them being cheap. They didn't value those players much at all. They might mot have been wrong either. I doubt Kheuchel or Corbin don't put them over the top last season.
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