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Post by Costigan on Dec 20, 2019 12:11:34 GMT -5
Sox announced some non-roster invitees for spring training.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Dec 20, 2019 12:32:53 GMT -5
Site account with a thread on the new guys.
Andreoli has interesting ties to the org and area. UConn teammate of Barnes and Fatse. Worcester guy here a year too early perhaps. St. John's Prep grad.
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Post by James Dunne on Dec 20, 2019 12:44:54 GMT -5
I haven't seen the new Star Wars, and if you told me Jett Bandy is a character in it I would 100% believe you.
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Post by cdj on Dec 20, 2019 13:19:06 GMT -5
I thought Alvarez was gonna turn into a good setup man when he was on his way up
Relievers!
Good to see Witte back, he’s been useful for them
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Post by Oregon Norm on Dec 20, 2019 14:02:12 GMT -5
Checked out Longhi's splits on B-R and they were dramatic in 2019. He absolutely killed lefthanded pitching last year at Louisville. The difference versus righthanders was nearly 400 points of OPS. Previous seasons had him largely indifferent, including a few years with minor reverse splits. Either something clicked or this is one very large statistical fluctuation.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Dec 20, 2019 17:13:26 GMT -5
I thought Alvarez was gonna turn into a good setup man when he was on his way up Relievers! Good to see Witte back, he’s been useful for them FWIW, Witte (and Tapia) re-signing had already been made official I believe. Other six (including Leyer re-signing) are new.
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Post by zekewharton on Dec 21, 2019 11:36:05 GMT -5
Checked out Longhi's splits on B-R and they were dramatic in 2019. He absolutely killed lefthanded pitching last year at Louisville. The difference versus righthanders was nearly 400 points of OPS. Previous seasons had him largely indifferent, including a few years with minor reverse splits. Either something clicked or this is one very large statistical fluctuation.
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Post by jondrink on Dec 24, 2019 6:58:41 GMT -5
Good We need OF/1B that can hit LH or RH pitching Still very young too! In game power ticked up too. Something clicked.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jan 23, 2020 16:57:42 GMT -5
Heard Roldani Baldwin might get an NRI, which makes no sense but hey what do I know?
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jan 23, 2020 16:58:25 GMT -5
As Soxfanatic posted elsewhere, Juan Centeno is back with a NRI. Go crazy folks!
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Post by soxfanatic on Jan 24, 2020 9:14:09 GMT -5
Heard Roldani Baldwin might get an NRI, which makes no sense but hey what do I know? Chris with the scoop. No new signings but a couple of interesting names. Ominous sign that Feltman is not on the list IMO.
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Post by James Dunne on Jan 24, 2020 9:21:36 GMT -5
Did people not see how Feltman pitched last year? And, failing that, did they not see the interviews where he said the elevated expectations caused him to put too much pressure on himself? It sounds like the lower profile minor league camp and a path where he's treated like a talented Double-A reliever is appropriate here.
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Post by Addam603 on Jan 24, 2020 10:12:56 GMT -5
Heard Roldani Baldwin might get an NRI, which makes no sense but hey what do I know? I have absolutely no idea if there’s a difference, but could the Sox think that he’ll get more reps as 1 of 4 catchers in major league camp than one of a larger number in the minor league camp?
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Post by jimed14 on Jan 24, 2020 10:46:29 GMT -5
They need dozens of catchers for spring training, don't they?
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Post by The Town Sports Cards on Jan 24, 2020 11:45:24 GMT -5
wouldn't read anything into Baldani, there's always surprise catchers on the NRI list because they just need warm bodies to catch all the bullpens. Let's not forget former NRI catching names like Jordan Procyshen, Jake Romanski, Austin Rei, Jake Depew, Dan Butler, and Ali Solis. Most of whom were 2-3 injuries from seeing major league time (Like when the Sox cut Pierzynski, and Ross got hurt so Butler was called up in 2014)
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Post by James Dunne on Jan 24, 2020 12:02:34 GMT -5
The thing with Baldwin is that he doesn't fit the profile of defense-first workhorse who they usually bring to spring training. It's questionable that he's actually a catcher and he's lost so much time to injury that his development on that has fallen quite a bit behind.
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Post by ramireja on Jan 24, 2020 12:14:58 GMT -5
Did people not see how Feltman pitched last year? And, failing that, did they not see the interviews where he said the elevated expectations caused him to put too much pressure on himself? It sounds like the lower profile minor league camp and a path where he's treated like a talented Double-A reliever is appropriate here. I don't disagree with this, but folks could have seen Feltman's inclusion in the Rookie Development Program as possibly being an indicator of earning an invite. Feltman and Ward are the only two players from that program who are neither on the 40-man roster nor a non-roster invitee and Ward finished last year in Salem (compared to Feltman at Portland).
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Post by James Dunne on Jan 24, 2020 12:48:55 GMT -5
Did people not see how Feltman pitched last year? And, failing that, did they not see the interviews where he said the elevated expectations caused him to put too much pressure on himself? It sounds like the lower profile minor league camp and a path where he's treated like a talented Double-A reliever is appropriate here. I don't disagree with this, but folks could have seen Feltman's inclusion in the Rookie Development Program as possibly being an indicator of earning an invite. Feltman and Ward are the only two players from that program who are neither on the 40-man roster nor a non-roster invitee and Ward finished last year in Salem (compared to Feltman at Portland). Unless I'm missing someone, it looks like Duran is the only other player invited to the Rookie Development Program who isn't on the 40-man and hasn't reached Triple-A. In other words, 2/3 of the players invited to the program before they'd made Triple-A did not get a non-roster spring training invite. If they didn't still have hopes for him then he wouldn't have been in the Rookie Development Program, right? So I guess I just don't think there's reason to read much into this. I guess I can see how this could feel disappointing to some given the outsized expectations for him last year, but it also feels to me like a way to manage those expectations better. He's not going to, say, have three lights-out appearances in MLB spring training and have the media start talking about him like he's The Guy Who Will Save The Bullpen again. And he won't get lit up by the Twins B-Team and get a bunch of snarky "bust" comments either. He's just gonna do his thing under-the-radar in minor league camp, which is what I think he needs.
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Post by ramireja on Jan 24, 2020 14:02:07 GMT -5
I guess I was thinking of it more from a 'we grouped these guys together for the dev program...they've had a chance to bond and gain some MLB insights together...let's move that group in unison toward major league spring training together' standpoint. I'm not at all trying to suggest this is a glaring omission though....mostly just thinking out loud.
Honestly, beyond the numbers, there were reports that Feltman's stuff backed up a little last year too....I want to say he was often 95-97 in college and more like 93-95 last year. Not sure if he will be able to recapture any of that 'stuff' from TCU, but it might be the difference between an up-and-down guy and a middle relief/setup projection.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jan 24, 2020 16:10:34 GMT -5
The thing with Baldwin is that he doesn't fit the profile of defense-first workhorse who they usually bring to spring training. It's questionable that he's actually a catcher and he's lost so much time to injury that his development on that has fallen quite a bit behind. Yeah, this is it here. Meanwhile guys like Rei and DeCarlo who did that mold more are not on there. It's not a reps thing. Guys get plenty of reps on the back fields. Maybe they're just really happy with the work he did last season rehabbing.
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