radiohix
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'At the end of the day, we bang. We bang. We're going to swing.' Alex Verdugo
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Post by radiohix on May 9, 2021 20:00:54 GMT -5
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Post by cdj on May 9, 2021 20:30:29 GMT -5
Cold weather prep lefty *PTSD FLASHBACKS TRIGGERED* In all seriousness I’d be fine with that in the 2nd round
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Post by dyoungteach on May 9, 2021 22:49:10 GMT -5
I know it won’t be popular with some ( many). This is just an interesting take on a redraft from mookie betts draft year. ( Cole end Bauer and clevinger and gray also). It’s interesting to me to read where the top picks rank.... it does further my belief and obviously just a writers opinion but it’s a pretty respected writer www.mlb.com/news/redrafting-the-2011-mlb-draft?t=mlb-pipeline-coverage
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Post by soxfaninnj on May 10, 2021 0:03:17 GMT -5
I know it won’t be popular with some ( many). This is just an interesting take on a redraft from mookie betts draft year. ( Cole end Bauer and clevinger and gray also). It’s interesting to me to read where the top picks rank.... it does further my belief and obviously just a writers opinion but it’s a pretty respected writer www.mlb.com/news/redrafting-the-2011-mlb-draft?t=mlb-pipeline-coverageIt’s crazy the Red Sox drafted 4 of those players.
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Post by geostorm on May 10, 2021 6:54:20 GMT -5
from same article -
• The decision to skip Leiter’s turn in the rotation wasn’t announced to scouts until Saturday morning, a few hours before the 2 p.m. game. The email to scouts said it was “nothing serious at this point but we are monitoring his inning workload,” which doesn’t line up with the choice to skip his turn hours before the game. If you’re going to limit someone’s workload, you make that call days before the start, not hours. Leiter has been struggling in his last few starts, giving up three homers and four walks in four innings last week against Florida and giving up a pair of homers in five innings against Mississippi State the week before. He allowed four runs in each outing. Maybe he’s tired and needs a week off, but the timing of this decision is unusual, and now even more eyes will be on Leiter if and when he retakes the mound.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on May 10, 2021 9:07:14 GMT -5
My guess is that he looked like crap warming up or something and Tim Corbin was smart enough to realize putting him out there wasn't in anyone's best interest.
Edit: Actually that doesn't even make sense. NVM.
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radiohix
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Post by radiohix on May 10, 2021 9:20:00 GMT -5
Was listening to the MASN broadcast yesterday (I just can't stand listening to O'Brian and Remy talking bunting for hours every single f***ng game) and they were interviewing the O's GM Mike Elias during the game, the interview was mainly about their farm system and the upcoming draft, few things that caught my attention: - Difficult draft to predict because of the pandemic yada yada although acknowledges "the 2 college pitchers and 2 HS shortstops at the top"
- "There's a HS pitcher that we like" (Jobe?)
- He also said that the previous administration stockpiled pitching so they "feel comfortable going out there with a focus on scouting position players"
ADD: These are not the exact quotes but close to what he was saying.
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Post by hairps on May 10, 2021 9:24:54 GMT -5
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Post by jdb on May 10, 2021 10:19:07 GMT -5
I was thinking about Fabian yesterday and wondering how high he could clime. If the SS’s and Davis are gone I wouldn’t hate an under slot deal with him if we don’t trust the Vandy pitchers.
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Post by freddysthefuture2003 on May 10, 2021 10:41:45 GMT -5
I was thinking about Fabian yesterday and wondering how high he could clime. If the SS’s and Davis are gone I wouldn’t hate an under slot deal with him if we don’t trust the Vandy pitchers. How much underslot would Fabian settle for tho? He can still play the, "I'll go back to school" card.
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Post by pedroelgrande on May 10, 2021 11:41:15 GMT -5
I think he has worked himself back into first round consideration but not top 10. College hitters with his track record of swing and miss are hard to take, I know he has made adjustments but picking that high its way too risky even with a discount.
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Post by jbuttah on May 10, 2021 11:51:32 GMT -5
I was hoping he'd be available with the second pick, but doesn't look like that's gonna happen now.
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Post by vermontsox1 on May 10, 2021 11:58:37 GMT -5
I think he has worked himself back into first round consideration but not top 10. College hitters with his track record of swing and miss are hard to take, I know he has made adjustments but picking that high its way too risky even with a discount. Yup. I'm definitely coming around on him now that he's put in a good little run here. I think the early swing and miss will still scare teams off, especially in the top 10, but wouldn't really be shocked if a team in the middle of the 1st wants to chase the upside. I really doubt he'll be around in the second round.
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Post by vermontsox1 on May 10, 2021 17:47:44 GMT -5
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Post by stevedillard on May 10, 2021 18:15:03 GMT -5
Implicit in trading is that slots are gone. So, do they believe that the prior 2000s "anticompetitive" act of having signability picks drop to big teams will be eliminated if they can allow trades? Say the Yankees want Leiter, they can't simply wait for him to drop to them, but have to give Pittsburgh something of value (but can continue to spend above their current allocation)? Could the Yanks also trade for the #2 pick and sign Rocker and Leiter for $13 mill?.
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Post by iakovos11 on May 10, 2021 18:21:52 GMT -5
Implicit in trading is that slots are gone. So, do they believe that the prior 2000s "anticompetitive" act of having signability picks drop to big teams will be eliminated if they can allow trades? Say the Yankees want Leiter, they can't simply wait for him to drop to them, but have to give Pittsburgh something of value (but can continue to spend above their current allocation)? Could the Yanks also trade for the #2 pick and sign Rocker and Leiter for $13 mill?. Slots don't have to be gone. They can require you maintain your original slot values, or you acquire the slot value with the pick you trade for.
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Post by stevedillard on May 10, 2021 18:57:19 GMT -5
Well, unless I'm missing a nuance, on the latter, there's no cap. On the former, that makes trades pretty impossible.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on May 10, 2021 22:26:38 GMT -5
Well, unless I'm missing a nuance, on the latter, there's no cap. On the former, that makes trades pretty impossible. I presume that they might only let teams trade picks for picks. Like no pick-for-player deals.
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Post by dyoungteach on May 10, 2021 23:25:27 GMT -5
Well, unless I'm missing a nuance, on the latter, there's no cap. On the former, that makes trades pretty impossible. I presume that they might only let teams trade picks for picks. Like no pick-for-player deals. I think more likely than that will be limit on which rounds they can trade for. We saw with international deals that picks were in fact allowed to be traded for players. So why would they change that now?? Although for curious reasons I don’t understand, mlb has barred trading of international slots over last year and this year. I always felt this was just an excuse to suppress bonuses over any Covid related reason. But I will agree that I’ve read nothing on it. Trading of picks could be really exciting either way.
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Post by ematz1423 on May 11, 2021 8:29:31 GMT -5
Surprised nobody has mentioned kiley McDaniels espn mock draft from this morning. 1-lawlar 2-leiter 3-mayer 4-rocker 5-davis
Says that Rocker isn't necessarily a bloom type but industry speculation starting to believe sox take Rocker at 4 if hes there. Davis to the Os at 5 is interesting. BPA is almost always the right choice but with adley there I'm not sure it applies to the Os the same unless they believe in his tools enough to move him to another position. It would be interesting if they did take him and rotated adley and him around to theoretically keep them both more fresh from the wear and tear at C.
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Post by vermontsox1 on May 11, 2021 8:40:38 GMT -5
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Post by dyoungteach on May 11, 2021 9:52:33 GMT -5
Surprised nobody has mentioned kiley McDaniels espn mock draft from this morning. 1-lawlar 2-leiter 3-mayer 4-rocker 5-davis Says that Rocker isn't necessarily a bloom type but industry speculation starting to believe sox take Rocker at 4 if hes there. Davis to the Os at 5 is interesting. BPA is almost always the right choice but with adley there I'm not sure it applies to the Os the same unless they believe in his tools enough to move him to another position. It would be interesting if they did take him and rotated adley and him around to theoretically keep them both more fresh from the wear and tear at C. Kiley is usually pretty in the loop about things. I wouldn’t be surprised if draft fell that way. Accept I also wouldn’t be surprised to see Brady house jump into the top 4
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Post by azblue on May 11, 2021 9:57:50 GMT -5
Carlton Fisk was not missing from the list above. He was not chosen in the June draft. Fisk was drafted by the Red Sox in the 1st round (4th ovreall pick) of the 1967 MLB January Draft.
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Post by ematz1423 on May 11, 2021 10:12:13 GMT -5
Surprised nobody has mentioned kiley McDaniels espn mock draft from this morning. 1-lawlar 2-leiter 3-mayer 4-rocker 5-davis Says that Rocker isn't necessarily a bloom type but industry speculation starting to believe sox take Rocker at 4 if hes there. Davis to the Os at 5 is interesting. BPA is almost always the right choice but with adley there I'm not sure it applies to the Os the same unless they believe in his tools enough to move him to another position. It would be interesting if they did take him and rotated adley and him around to theoretically keep them both more fresh from the wear and tear at C. Kiley is usually pretty in the loop about things. I wouldn’t be surprised if draft fell that way. Accept I also wouldn’t be surprised to see Brady house jump into the top 4 Yea I like McDaniels, he's usually pretty reliable. Exactly 2 months to the day for the first round so there's still room for players to rise and fall.
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Post by tyler3 on May 11, 2021 10:44:53 GMT -5
Still really haven’t heard the Red Sox in on any player, not once. I get that some teams just assume that the Red Sox will take Rocker at 4...but still there has been no real intel. I haven’t heard of a Red Sox decision maker being at one game which of course they have. I mean if the Red Sox pick Rocker at 4 then of course they see what they see and I’m just a fan. But his last game as described by Keith Law was just weird. Also keep an eye on Leiter, 3 rough games and then a missed start......ok? I think Id love to see a scouts take of Kumar this season...not what he averaged his first 3 games but as a whole this season. Let me know if you guys find anything.
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